Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #24

[Makara]

bs and wife close to breakdown after being questioned by police
has an interesting comment
but not sure its ok to post?

https://lockerdome.com/smh/7352352550172180

BBM: Why bearbear? There is nothing wrong with what you posted.

 

[Bohemian]

Bohemian, you may be right. Though 'allegations' is not the same as 'charges' and I'd like to see what the actual charges, as they stand now (not last year) say about the number of victims. It sounds like there will be evidence of offences against several children, but I'm not sure whether he's facing trial in respect of all those events.

The article was from September 7, 2016 so it's current regarding the NSW charges AFAIK but the Crown Prosecutor is going to present 'allegations not the subject of charges on the indictment.', so who knows, JLZ?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-b...hild-sexual-assault-case-20160907-grako8.html

The Victorian charges are for different offences and I'm not sure how many complainants there are in total; just that one of them is reported to be a complainant in the NSW proceedings.

If BS is charged in relation to William's disappearance, I'll read about him. Otherwise I don't take any interest (that is, until someone asks a question and I 'fall for it' yet again!) :bang:

ETA: I don't know if the above reply makes sense...my brain is fried. I think I need to go nigh-nighs and look at it again tomorrow fftobed:

 

[Makara]

reposting this link from ages ago, it has lots of interesting photos from fairfax photos by photographer MAX MASON-HUBERS
if the photos dont come up type kendall into the search option, if you click on a photo you see more,
lots of photos of the eerie, dense forest behind williams grandmothers, a deep looking well and one of the neighbours who was first on scene etc

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....&RH=904&PN=2&POPUPPN=84&POPUPIID=2ITHRGYGUBES

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....VBID=2ITHZO4KYDBM3&SMLS=1&RW=1652&RH=904&PN=2

Brilliant bearbear, thank you. There is one particular pic in there that I've been trying to find for ages.

 

[Makara]

sydney morning herald found to have not breached fair reporting guidelines re bs

http://www.presscouncil.org.au/document-search/adj-1651/

Thanks bearbear, you're on a roll tonight. LOL. The conclusion of this complaint last year is as follows;

Council is of the view that more prominence could have been given to police comments that Mr Spedding was only a “person of interest”. However, the inclusion of comments in support of Mr Spedding contributed to the articles’ overall fairness and balance.

Accordingly, Council has concluded that its Standards of Practice were not breached.

 

[gregjrichards]

"A convicted paedophile has pleaded guilty to writing sexually explicit stories about missing children Madeleine McCann and William Tyrrell.
Sonny Day, 60, had his case heard on Friday in the Supreme Court of Tasmania.
Day pleaded guilty to producing child exploitation material, reported the ABC."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...m-Tyrrell-Madeleine-McCann.html#ixzz4KRChBVwJ

Disgusting!

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks bearbear, you're on a roll tonight. LOL. The conclusion of this complaint last year is as follows;

Council is of the view that more prominence could have been given to police comments that Mr Spedding was only a “person of interest”. However, the inclusion of comments in support of Mr Spedding contributed to the articles’ overall fairness and balance.

Accordingly, Council has concluded that its Standards of Practice were not breached.

Sounds like good ole Col saved the day. hahaha

"Although Mr Spedding declined to comment, a close friend “had spoken on his behalf” and his comments defending Mr Spedding were prominently featured in the article."


You are on a roll, bearbear! Great find. So it seems Spedding (or his rep) did lodge a formal complaint after all. Not that it got him very far.

 

[SouthAussie]

reposting this link from ages ago, it has lots of interesting photos from fairfax photos by photographer MAX MASON-HUBERS
if the photos dont come up type kendall into the search option, if you click on a photo you see more,
lots of photos of the eerie, dense forest behind williams grandmothers, a deep looking well and one of the neighbours who was first on scene etc

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....&RH=904&PN=2&POPUPPN=84&POPUPIID=2ITHRGYGUBES

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....VBID=2ITHZO4KYDBM3&SMLS=1&RW=1652&RH=904&PN=2

I forgot about these pics! There is a good one in the first link that shows exactly how far away someone could have been and still seen a little boy in a bright red outfit playing at the side of the house.

 

[SouthAussie]

View attachment 101474
http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/register/p02299ad.pdf
Squeaky Beach in Whitsundays, Queensland.

Ahh ... so it is on Brampton Island in the Whitsundays. Thanks!
(3rd pic in link)

 

[WhiteLion^^]

Ahh ... so it is on Brampton Island in the Whitsundays. Thanks!
(3rd pic in link)

Thanks for clarifying! Many heads are better than one!!!

 

[bearbear]

BBM: Why bearbear? There is nothing wrong with what you posted.

because of the persons comment below regarding bs, thought it may be against ws rules to post someones social media comments?

 

[koios]

reposting this link from ages ago, it has lots of interesting photos from fairfax photos by photographer MAX MASON-HUBERS
if the photos dont come up type kendall into the search option, if you click on a photo you see more,
lots of photos of the eerie, dense forest behind williams grandmothers, a deep looking well and one of the neighbours who was first on scene etc

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....&RH=904&PN=2&POPUPPN=84&POPUPIID=2ITHRGYGUBES

http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....VBID=2ITHZO4KYDBM3&SMLS=1&RW=1652&RH=904&PN=2

Thanks bearbear, fantastic photos by MMH. Here are underground drain inlets in the bushland near the house where WT was staying:
http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....ll-from-his-grandma-s-yard.-2ITHRGYGUBES.html
http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....ll-from-his-grandma-s-yard.-2ITHRGYGU8JE.html
http://consumer.fairfaxsyndication....ll-from-his-grandma-s-yard.-2ITHRGYG72JZ.html

 

[Violet77]

I wonder, is BS such a publicized poi because of the inconsistencies in his alibi, the fact that he was at the FGM house a few days prior & due at the house the same day little William disappeared, or could it be due to the fact that Jubelin possibly had interaction with him during the time he threw the book at JJH, was he aware of the allegations against BS back when they were originally made? & so when his named surfaced during William's investigation Jubelin liked BS for it because knew he was type to get involved in that sort of activity?
There are so many connections between all the parties in this case.


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[Bohemian]

because of the persons comment below regarding bs, thought it may be against ws rules to post someones social media comments?

You didn't post the comment bb. You simply posted a link to an MSM article

 

[sosocurious]

Sounds like good ole Col saved the day. hahaha

"Although Mr Spedding declined to comment, a close friend “had spoken on his behalf” and his comments defending Mr Spedding were prominently featured in the article."


You are on a roll, bearbear! Great find. So it seems Spedding (or his rep) did lodge a formal complaint after all. Not that it got him very far.

Yes and the clarification video. That was even a little out with the crimestoppers number.
His gun barrel knockabout mate said he was there on Monday the 8 September he says he was there on Tuesday 9 September, no way he says before of after that date, until he returned 18 Sept to finish the repair.
What about the phone calls BS, the Buzz cafe, the receipt you have in your hot little hand, the school assembly and Dunbogan?
Why so determined to clarify the lead up dates but not the day in question.
Inconsistencies in alibi.
imo

 

[Bohemian]

Bohemian, you may be right. Though 'allegations' is not the same as 'charges' and I'd like to see what the actual charges, as they stand now (not last year) say about the number of victims. It sounds like there will be evidence of offences against several children, but I'm not sure whether he's facing trial in respect of all those events.

The article was from September 7, 2016 so it's current regarding the NSW charges AFAIK but the Crown Prosecutor is going to present 'allegations not the subject of charges on the indictment.', so who knows, JLZ?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-b...hild-sexual-assault-case-20160907-grako8.html

The Victorian charges are for different offences and I'm not sure how many complainants there are in total; just that one of them is reported to be a complainant in the NSW proceedings.

If BS is charged in relation to William's disappearance, I'll read about him. Otherwise I don't take any interest (that is, until someone asks a question and I 'fall for it' yet again!) :bang:

ETA: I don't know if the above reply makes sense...my brain is fried. I think I need to go nigh-nighs and look at it again tomorrow fftobed:

:coffee: I get the distinction you're making between 'allegations' and 'charges':

'Allegation:

A claim made by one party (such as the police) about something that has or has not been done. This claim needs to be proved in court.'

'Charge:

When the police formally accuse a person of committing a criminal offence.'

http://www.lawaccess.nsw.gov.au/Pages/representing/lawassist_legalwords.aspx

and how they relate to the NSW proceedings, at the present time. The only reports anyone has to go on, unless they possess the court documents, are those published in MSM,:

'Mr Spedding is facing five charges, including sexual intercourse with a child under 10 and common assault.'

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-b...hild-sexual-assault-case-20160907-grako8.html

and taking into consideration other recent MSM articles:

'[...], Spedding is charged with sexually assaulting two girls, aged three and six, in Sydney's southwest in 1987.'

The 65-year-old is set to fight those charges if the application to dismiss the charges is unsuccessful.'

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/325...ts-to-have-child-sex-charges-dismissed/#page1

'Spedding is charged with sexually assaulting two girls aged three and six in a caravan in Sydney’s southwest in 1987.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...s/news-story/1a3daf1a63abe18152d2a2ed5099cdd0

'Spedding is charged with sexually assaulting two girls aged three and six in a caravan in Sydney's south-west in 1987. '

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...two-girls-dismissed-police-lost-evidence.html

so public knowledge (and discussion on WS) of the current charges and number of complainants is limited; as are specific allegations the Crown Prosecutor may present if the case goes to trial (this is not a given as there is an application for a stay in proceedings to be heard in February 2017 where the case may yet be thrown out of court.).

I can't give you a better explanation of what I understand, as a lay person, about the current proceedings than the above; as my knowledge of the law is also limited. Is there a verified lawyer in the house?

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes and the clarification video. That was even a little out with the crimestoppers number.
His gun barrel knockabout mate said he was there on Monday the 8 September he says he was there on Tuesday 9 September, no way he says before of after that date, until he returned 18 Sept to finish the repair.
What about the phone calls BS, the Buzz cafe, the receipt you have in your hot little hand, the school assembly and Dunbogan?
Why so determined to clarify the lead up dates but not the day in question.
Inconsistencies in alibi.
imo

His phone pings - and the strength of the pings - should certainly have been able to verify if he was sitting in Laurieton in a cafe, school, and his office, that morning. I would think the pings would be quite localised during that time period, if that was the case.


This map of the local phone towers also highlights why William's father needed to go elsewhere for wifi/mobile reception for his work meeting/calls, at that time. (NBN would only have fairly recently been rolled out in Kendall, I think.)

https://oztowers.com/Home/Query

 

[Bohemian]

His phone pings - and the strength of the pings - should certainly have been able to verify if he was sitting in Laurieton in a cafe, school, and his office, that morning. I would think the pings would be quite localised during that time period, if that was the case.


This map of the local phone towers also highlights why William's father needed to go elsewhere for wifi/mobile reception for his work meeting/calls, at that time. (NBN would only have fairly recently been rolled out in Kendall, I think.)

https://oztowers.com/Home/Query

Thanks SA. Could you tell me which search parameters you used, please? The oztowers link only shows me the blank query page.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks SA. Could you tell me which search parameters you used, please? The oztowers link only shows me the blank query page.

Use postcode 2439 or postcode 2443 in the search box, or start typing Kendall NSW, or Laurieton NSW, and it will bring up that parameter for you to click on.

After that, one tab will list the towers, another tab shows them on a map.

 

[Bohemian]

I wonder, is BS such a publicized poi because of the inconsistencies in his alibi, the fact that he was at the FGM house a few days prior & due at the house the same day little William disappeared, or could it be due to the fact that Jubelin possibly had interaction with him during the time he threw the book at JJH, was he aware of the allegations against BS back when they were originally made? & so when his named surfaced during William's investigation Jubelin liked BS for it because knew he was type to get involved in that sort of activity?
There are so many connections between all the parties in this case.


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William's is certainly a complicated case, even with the little information we have to work with. I understand why it has become the behemoth it seems to be. I guess it will all come out in the wash.

 

[Bohemian]

Use postcode 2439 or postcode 2443 in the search box, or start typing Kendall NSW, or Laurieton NSW, and it will bring up that parameter for you to click on.

After that, one tab will list the towers, another tab shows them on a map.

Thanks SA. I've used it once before but wanted to know location. Also, did you check any specific boxes in the initial query? Just want to pull up the same map as yours.