AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 3

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  1. KaylynnCouture

    KaylynnCouture New Member

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    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Tucson police are searching for a 6-year-old girl who went missing from her home on the city's east side.

    Isabel Mercedes Celis was last seen late Friday and discovered to be missing at about 8 a.m. Saturday.

    Sgt. Maria Hawke says police are searching the area around East Broadway Boulevard and Craycroft Road using street patrols, canines, detectives and a helicopter.

    She's described as just under 4-feet-tall and weighing 44 pounds, with brown hair and hazel eyes.

    Snipped: http://www.kswt.com/story/17650000/t...-year-old-girl

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    Pertinent parts BBM: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/omc-ned/abd-rapt-eng.htm
     
  4. shay0903

    shay0903 Verified Health Professional - Registered Nurse

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    In the previous thread someone mentioned if a dog expert could answer how they would determine an unknown scent when le was all in the home. I was thinking this too. How would they be able to distinguish an intruder vs...say one of the kids friends who had been over the evening before?? Seems this would be very tough. Any explanation or example is appreciated! TIA
     
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    Has anyone heard if Uncle Justin is/was living with his sister (Becky Celis) and her family? I am attempting to delicately inquire, but it's sensitive and I am not very subtle.
     
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    I'm also thinking that it is a very real possibility this person let the dogs out on purpose to play/feed them to familiarize himself with the dogs - thus, no barking, no indication of stranger danger.
     
  7. KaylynnCouture

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    I feel like this couldn't have been a completely random stranger abduction. It would have had to been someone who was already familiar with the home, knew where Isabel's bedroom was, was familiar with the family having dogs (and, like Surfie mentioned, maybe even familiarized himself with the dogs first to minimize the "stranger danger" risk).

    So with that super wide profile in mind, I believe it has to be someone who gained access to the house previously (even for a brief period of time, like a dogsitter while the family was away..)
     
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    Does anyone know what time the next presser is scheduled for?
     
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    I know the dog handlers can answer you questions but we see dogs scenting out the scent of suspects all the time so there must be a way that the dogs can tell the different scents.
     
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    I do think this could be a perfect stranger. I will never forget how Duncan knew everything about the Greone home before he even entered to kidnap Shasta and Dylan. He knew they had dogs how many adults lived there and how many children and where each one slept.

    Often even if the blinds are pulled down one can see movement back and forth and know who's room belongs to whom. When it is dark outside and the lights are on inside not many people are peering out their windows to see if anyone is looking in.

    IMO
     
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    I vaguely remember the Groene case, can you refresh my memory? How did the perp know everything about the home if he was a complete stranger to the family?

    You make a great point about the blinds.
     
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    And if he had encountered the dogs while inside all he had to do is throw them some treats to divert their attention while he made his escape. They would all be eaten and the family would never even know he gave them the treats.

    imo
     
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    Tucson resident here, too. Echo the interest in the uncle. Have since day one. Haven't heard/seen anything about him since the initial video and odd phrases.
     
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    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    Do we have the interview of the uncle?
     
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    Worst. Case. Ever. Just awful. But the perp hid in the woods for days, IIRC and spied on the family. Then he went in, killed the parents and older brother, absconding with Dylan and Shasta. And it only got worse.


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  18. SurfieTX

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    Live at the landfill...
     
  19. KaylynnCouture

    KaylynnCouture New Member

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    Welcome to Websleuths pieper4!! It's great to have you with us!
     
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    ITA. I just don't think the dogs being out is a coincidence.


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