Bosma Murder Trial 04.28.16 - Day 42

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    **If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
    [h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
    Reporters to follow on Twitter:

    Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
    Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton - ArianeEmory
    Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto - Matou
    Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
    Peter Ackman, CTV National News
    Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
    Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
    Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News
    Colin Butler CBC Toronto News
    Lisa Hepfner CHCH News Reporter

    General MSM Tweets

    Also, check here for real time updates.

    http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
     
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    Tim Bosma trial: Christina Noudga, Millard's ex-girlfriend returns to testify
    CBC News Posted: Apr 28, 2016

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    Christina Noudga, the ex-girlfriend of accused murderer Dellen Millard, returns for her second consecutive day of testimony at the Tim Bosma trial in Hamilton.

    Noudga, 24, is charged an accessory after the fact in the case. She will continue to be question by lawyers for the Crown. On Wednesday, Noudga testified that she was "performing sexual favours" on Dellen Millard as he drove away from his mother's home in Kleinburg, Ont., after dropping off the trailer that contained Tim Bosma's truck.

    Live coverage begins at 10 a.m.

    CBC Live Blog

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  6. meterclicks

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    Court is now in session. Just waiting on the jury.
    by Adam Carter 10:00 AM
     
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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 46s46 seconds ago
    Some legal arguments right now in the #Bosma trial. Jury out of the courtroom.
     
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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
    Starting off this morning with some legal arguments before jury returns. #Bosma
     
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    The jury is now being recalled, as is Christina Noudga.
    by Adam Carter 10:06 AM
     
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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 14s14 seconds ago
    Christina Noudga back on the stand for second day of exam in chief and jury ready to go at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7s7 seconds ago
    Christina Noudga in a white top again - this time with a white jacket. Black bottoms. Seems less smiley today. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 15s15 seconds ago
    Jury is back. Noudga is back on the stand. Wearing black pants and a white blazer. Her long hair is clipped to one side. #Bosma

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 14s14 seconds ago
    Christina nougda is back on the stand. Red heels gone. More conservative today. Jury in. Here we go. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3s3 seconds ago
    Leitch back up to continue questioning her about May 9 outing with Millard. #Bosna

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9s9 seconds ago
    Crown Tony Leitch asking again about timing of the car rides she had with #Millard on May 9, 2013
     
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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 15s16 seconds ago
    Leitch back up to continue questioning her about May 9 outing with Millard. #Bosma

    Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 23s24 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
    Jury is in the room, as is Christina Noudga, Dellen Millard's former girlfriend back on the stand #Bosma #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 13s14 seconds ago
    She says when Dell picked her up they drove directly to Kleinburg. They were there probably 15 minutes she says. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5s6 seconds ago
    Crown Tony Leitch asking what time she left Kleinberg on May 9. She can't remember. And can't remember what time she was picked up at home.

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 14s15 seconds ago
    She thinks they were at #Millard mother's house in Kleinburg for 10-15 minutes. She doesn't remember what time. Looking at texts now.

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 13s14 seconds ago
    Crown asking about timing of drive back from DM mom. Asks crown to tell her when she was picked up . @AM900CHML #timbosma
     
  12. meterclicks

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    Assistant Crown Tony Leitch is continuing his examination in chief.
    by Adam Carter 10:08 AM

    Leitch is asking Noudga what time things happened on May 9. She says she doesn't recall exact times.
    by Adam Carter 10:09 AM

    The last message she got from Millard that night when he was picking her up was just before 10 p.m.
    by Adam Carter 10:10 AM
     
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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 31s32 seconds ago
    Leitch asks what time they left Kleinburg. She asks to be reminded what time she was picked up in the first place. #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 26s27 seconds ago
    Jury in. Christina Noudga back in the witness box being questioned by crown lawyer Tony Leitch. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 19s20 seconds ago
    Leitch shows her the text message exchange w Millard that night. (He texted her "here" at 9:53pm). #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9s9 seconds ago
    #Millard texted "here" at 9:53pm after instructing her to roll a joint, he'd be there soon. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s37 seconds ago
    So she says the drive was probably roughly 30min and then probably left Kleinburg at about 10:45. And then an hour drive to Waterloo. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 29s30 seconds ago
    Leitch showing her the text extraction report that shows Millard saying "here" at 9:53 p.m. Arrived Kleinberg 10:30, departure 10:45.
     
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    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9s10 seconds ago
    They headed to Waterloo from Kleinburg at about 10:45pm, likely arriving at hangar 11:45pm. At midnight they went to barn

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 36s36 seconds ago
    Noudga is talking about the trip she and Millard took the night before his arrest. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s26 seconds ago
    So she says they were probably at the hangar til about midnight, and then the barn between 12:10-12:20am before driving back to TO. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18s18 seconds ago
    At hangar from 11:55 to midnight. At barn from 12:10 to 12:20. Then headed back toward Toronto. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9s9 seconds ago
    From midnight to 12:20 they were moving the incinerator from the barn to the hiding spot in the trees. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
    Leitch shows Noudga the cell phone 'ping' report presentation we've seen earlier in this trial. #Bosma
     
  15. Tealgrove

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    OK, so here's my question. With all the I can't remembers and I don't knows has CN perjured herself yet and if not what does she have to do make that happen?
     
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    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 15s16 seconds ago
    They left Vaughan for Waterloo, went to the airport then the farm in the Cambridge area. #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 26s26 seconds ago
    Seeing cell tower map jury has seen before. Shows where Noudga's phone was at various times. Her phone was at Kleinberg until 11:34 pm.

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 15s15 seconds ago
    Looking at map of where Noudga's phone was located when it made/received calls/messages on May 9, #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s27 seconds ago
    Shows her cell phone pinging up near Madeleine Burns's house at 11:34pm that night, when a call was made to Matt Hagerman. #Bosma

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 18s19 seconds ago
    Says she was at madeline Burns 10-15. To waterloo. Than farm 12-10 to 12:20 for 10 min. She is now being shown phone records. @AM900CHML

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 4s5 seconds ago
    Leitch asks if that "accords with your memory." She says no but agrees she had her phone with her all night. #Bosma
     
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    She says she and Millard got to Waterloo around 11:45 p.m., and were at the hangar until about midnight. They then went to the farm around 12:10 to 12:20 -- this was when the incinerator was moved.
    by Adam Carter 10:11 AM

    The court is now seeing a presentation we've already seen showing Noudga's phone movements that night. Her phone called Matt Hagerman near Kleinburg, Ont. at 11:34 p.m.
    by Adam Carter 10:13 AM

    She says that doesn't accord with her memory, but she had her phone with her.
    by Adam Carter 10:13 AM
     
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    Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 50s51 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
    Bosma Trial: Follow CBC's live blog from inside the courtroom via @AdamCarterCBC http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/The_Tim_Bosma_trial_April_28 … @CBCHamilton #Bosma #TimBosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 40s41 seconds ago
    Noudga called Hagerman at 11:34 pm when she was still in Kleinburg. So her memory of the timing was off. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
    Leitch asks if Millard did as well. She said she assumes so. "He should have, because he messaged me outside my home," she says. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 50s50 seconds ago
    #Millard had his phone because he messaged her from outside her house, she says. #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 47s47 seconds ago
    She says that doesn't match her recollection. Leitch asks if she left her phone anywhere. She says no. And she says Millard had his phone.

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 37s37 seconds ago
    Crown now showing jury a map with geolocation a of cell phone use. Noudga doesn't remember using her phone the way the records show. #Bosma
     
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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s34 seconds ago
    Next slide shows her phone pinging in Milton area at 3:43am. Leitch asks if this helps her remember what time they were heading back #Bosma

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 29s29 seconds ago
    As she looks at phone records.. "ooooohhhhhhhhhh" she says. Shows she was in milton area 343 am. @AM900CHML

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 24s24 seconds ago
    3:43am Noudga got text messages in the Milton area -- between Toronto and Waterloo. She doesn't remember receiving texts. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 20s20 seconds ago
    She says that was probably on her way back toward Toronto. "Makes sense doesn't it," he says. She agrees. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 39s39 seconds ago
    At 3:43 a.m. she got a text in the Milton area. "That was probably on our way back toward Toronto."

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s17 seconds ago
    Leitch asks if Millard is making phone calls on their way to Waterloo. Not to her recollection, she says. #Bosma
     
  20. meterclicks

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    She says she had her phone, and believes Millard had his phone as well.
    by Adam Carter 10:14 AM

    Noudga's phone received three texts around 3:43 a.m. in the Milton area the next morning. She says she doesn't know if she received a text then, but that was probably on the way back to Toronto.
    by Adam Carter 10:15 AM

    She says Millard wasn't making phone calls "to her recollection." She says Millard asked to use her phone on the trip back to Toronto.
    by Adam Carter 10:16 AM
     
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    Nope, not remembering is not a lie.
     
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