It opened for me. You do want to read it. Be certain your browser allows "ca.gov" and also "pdf.js" - I had to manually choose to allow those.
CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #3
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I wish I knew as well. Daily mail seems to have a lot of them, though.
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If the kids require such careful nutritional treatment in hospital now, imagine if one of them had escaped to rummage through the neighbour's trash, or eaten one of the pies on the kitchen bench anytime over the last year. It's almost impossible to believe that every child has survived this horrendous treatment - infections, the high risk of heart failure due to malnutrition etc.
My kids have absorbed a little of this story because I'm so caught up in it, and we are sending a few packs of playing cards from Australia. I feel terrible that my children have been exposed to such a horrific story, but it's a good chance to show them that if you see something bad, you do something good. My 9yo came up with the idea of the playing cards, and I'm really keen to do that.
My kids have absorbed a little of this story because I'm so caught up in it, and we are sending a few packs of playing cards from Australia. I feel terrible that my children have been exposed to such a horrific story, but it's a good chance to show them that if you see something bad, you do something good. My 9yo came up with the idea of the playing cards, and I'm really keen to do that.
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Yes. I'm trying very hard to remain tactful regarding this subject as it is near and dear to my heart, however, the characteristics the OP is using as evidence as to why a person on the spectrum would not be suited to engineering, are precisely the characteristics many on the spectrum possess, and therefore as a result are so successful in STEM fields. Not all, of course. As the saying goes, "When you've met one person on the spectrum, you've met one person on the spectrum", but yes, it is not at all unusual to find high functioning spectrum individuals in engineering, medicine, science, etc.
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You are absolutely correct. They can be anything they want to be. <3
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I agree and am worried that they may have had more children than they are claiming and there is no telling what happened to the missing kid(s) if in fact any are really missing.
The way they kept isolated and the way we only see group photos at certain period of time in their lives I think they could have fairly easily gotten rid of one or two of them and nobody would be the wiser.
It is very confusing trying to build a timeline of when all the children were born. There is supposed to be a birth certificate for each and every child but if they had kids at the home without hospital oversight then there is no telling really.
Thanks to those who have tried to build some sort of timeline and trying to identify who is who. Its a good start. We just need to keep open minded that they may have tried to deceive us with the grand total of kids they had.
My niece has Aspergers and goes to the top public university in NJ. Her school is actually known for its engineering program, ironically enough. My niece may struggle with social interactions and some other things, but she is an incredibly bright young woman and is doing just fine in school.
I don't think anyone means any disrespect. Possibly just less informed as I was until googling
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I hadnt seen this photo before today. I wish I could see it with out the blur.
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It would depend upon exactly which areas they are high functioning in. I'm diagnosed with Asperger's and would probably be classed as high functioning (intelligence and language, certainly, and I believe I come across in person as "just" very shy and awkward), but I couldn't cope with school, have never worked and have achieved absolutely nothing in my life - I'm only semi-independent through living with my other half; I would not cope alone. Other autistic people who would appear outwardly to have worse problems than me hold down jobs and live alone - it's not a straight scale of high to low functioning, as everyone has different strengths and weaknesses.
An autistic person certainly could become an engineer, if they were affected in the right ways to be able to cope with university and working - but others would have no chance of making it that far. So DT's job really doesn't confirm anything either way. I would say that any autistic person willingly going to Disneyland more than once is utterly inconceivable to me, the sensory overload must be incredible, but then again, not all autistic people are as badly affected by it, maybe some actually could handle it...
The smallest one in front #12. I read that post but didn't really look... ugh.
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I hadnt seen this photo before today. I wish I could see it with out the blur.
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All of their hands are being held in similar fashion.
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I can’t get this case out of my head. Not sure how is discovered it but I’ve managed to finally catch up on the threads.
I saw many people questioning what sparked the escape plan 2 years ago and i think it definitely has to do with the birth of the youngest. Possibly because the older children realized that this is another person that will have to suffer like them and it sparked their own protective instincts to attempt to get help before she too was abused.
On the lewd act charge, I’m curious as to if it was truly a single incident or if the others just haven’t spoken up about any other situations. It seems strange to me that the father would sexually assault one of the 10 girls just once. Unless it was another form of punishment, especially if the theory that it was the hero is correct as it seems she may be more rebellious than the others. But then again there was the other incident of one of the older girls trying to escape before so the lewd act as another form of punishment may not be right. From the court complaints document it’s worded in a way that makes it seem just purely for DT’s sexual gratification, which doesn’t seem to fit with the abundance of other possible victims available to him. I would like to see if someone’s theory of the 8th child looking a bit genetically different and slightly healthier than the others comes out to be anything.
This is probably a very confusing post, I can’t wrap my head around everything these survivors have had to suffer through. I will be counting down the days until I am back in the states and able to send them some of the things they need.
I saw many people questioning what sparked the escape plan 2 years ago and i think it definitely has to do with the birth of the youngest. Possibly because the older children realized that this is another person that will have to suffer like them and it sparked their own protective instincts to attempt to get help before she too was abused.
On the lewd act charge, I’m curious as to if it was truly a single incident or if the others just haven’t spoken up about any other situations. It seems strange to me that the father would sexually assault one of the 10 girls just once. Unless it was another form of punishment, especially if the theory that it was the hero is correct as it seems she may be more rebellious than the others. But then again there was the other incident of one of the older girls trying to escape before so the lewd act as another form of punishment may not be right. From the court complaints document it’s worded in a way that makes it seem just purely for DT’s sexual gratification, which doesn’t seem to fit with the abundance of other possible victims available to him. I would like to see if someone’s theory of the 8th child looking a bit genetically different and slightly healthier than the others comes out to be anything.
This is probably a very confusing post, I can’t wrap my head around everything these survivors have had to suffer through. I will be counting down the days until I am back in the states and able to send them some of the things they need.
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The eighth child is also the one most likely to speak out, at this point, about what was done to her. I don't doubt anything the others tell in the future, but the child who escaped has something extra special.
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Yes, and it creeps me out. Every photo is so staged. And we know its covering for unspeakable horrors.
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Respectfully, I concluded age based on other WS posters and based on the kids being listed in birth order on the obituary. I think she was born in 2002 and would be 15 today. Im on tapatalk but Ill go on my laptop tomorrow and quote the post that listed all of the kids birth years.
thts possible, I recall the neighbour from years ago, saying contact was cut when she asked the children their names, and didn’t one of the children say, they weren’t allowed to say their names.
This couple remind me of Fred and Rosemary West in the UK.
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I hadn’t seen this photo before today. I wish I could see it with out the blur.
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This day at Disneyland is same day as many photos used as cover and profile. They were with other people and -DT parents. 10/30/2011 was dated with grandparents .
That site as a whole won't load for me and hasn't since the link was posted several hours ago; I've tried removing everything after the base domain and still can't access it, just times out. Weird that it's working for others, maybe some routing problem or maybe just not viewable outside the US?
Try just going to the river side courts website itself and then searching Turpin. Thats what worked for me.
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