Mary Ingalls
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Was there ever an investigation into the possiblity that the Torey Pines attack/murder of Barbara Nantais was linked to the Golden State Killer?
CA CA - East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer *ARREST* #5
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He intended for you to feel that way. He used to have pounds on him. He's trying to play a card. Get his sentence reduced. He's doing to die from coronavirus in a prison by next summer. And he deserves that.
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If it doesn't already exist somewhere, I'd like to put together an actual timeline--date, city, name, crime. I'm going to look around as I'm thinking there already is one somewhere. I was trying to do that yesterday but I was starting to get traumatized listening to the descriptions of some of the crimes and had to break away.
I think it would help with all the various questions about other crimes that people are wondering about. Both the gap in time that was mentioned, and wondering if there were more both before or after the "official" ones.
I think it would help with all the various questions about other crimes that people are wondering about. Both the gap in time that was mentioned, and wondering if there were more both before or after the "official" ones.
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I felt like that a little bit until they detailed exactly what had happened to one of the rape victims. I don't feel like that any more.
rbbm.Whoa! I guess I asked for it @dotr - a BIG
Is that HBO movie only 2 parts? I will get my bro to download it for me. TIA!
I'll Be Gone In The Dark
''A six-part documentary series based on the book of the same name, I’ll Be Gone In The Dark explores writer Michelle McNamara’s investigation into the dark world of the violent predator she dubbed "The Golden State Killer."
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Thank you for this! Outstanding! Unfortunately I'm left wondering what the dates/years and locations were for so many of these. I really want to know if he continued activity beyond the commonly understood dates he's known for.
Quick links.. a start?
The 'Golden State Killer': Inside the timeline of crimes
Timeline: List of Golden State Killer attacks
''Golden State Killer attacks: map and full list
The official list of cases are:
- June 18, 1976: Sexual assault/rape, Rancho Cordova
- July 17, 1976: Sexual assault/rape, Carmichael
- August 29, 1976: Burglary, attempted sexual assault, Rancho Cordova
- Sept. 4, 1976: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Oct. 5, 1976: Sexual Assault/rape, Citrus Heights
- Oct. 9, 1976: Sexual Assault/rape, Rancho Cordova
- Oct. 18, 1976: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Oct. 18, 1976: Carjacking, Rancho Cordova
- Nov. 10, 1976: Kidnapping, Citrus Heights
- Dec. 18, 1976: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Jan. 18, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- Jan. 24, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Citrus Heights
- Feb. 7, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Feb. 16, 1977: Assault, attempted murder, Sacramento
- March 8, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- March 18, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Rancho Cordova
- April 2, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Orangevale
- April 15, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- May 3, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- May 5, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Orangevale
- May 14, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Citrus Heights
- May 17, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- May 28, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- Sept. 6, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Stockton
- Oct. 1, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Rancho Cordova
- Oct. 21, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- Oct. 29, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- Nov. 10, 1977: Sexual Assault/rape, Sacramento
- Dec. 2, 1977: Attempted sexual assault, Sacramento
- Jan. 28, 1978: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Jan. 29, 1979: Sexual Assault/rape, Carmichael
- Feb. 2, 1978: Brian and Katie Maggiore were killed, Rancho Cordova
- March 18, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Stockton
- April 14, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Sacramento
- June 5, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Modesto
- June 7, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Davis
- June 23, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Modesto
- June 24, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Davis
- July 6, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Davis
- Oct. 7, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Concord
- Oct. 13, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, Concord
- Oct. 28, 1978: San Ramon
- Nov. 4, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, San Jose
- Dec. 2, 1978: Sexual assault/rape,San Jose
- Dec. 8, 1978: Sexual assault/rape (DNA link), Danville
- Dec. 18, 1978: Sexual assault/rape, San Ramon
- March 20, 1979: Sexual assault/rape, Rancho Cordova
- April 4, 1979: Sexual assault/rape, Fremont
- June 2, 1979: Sexual assault/rape, Walnut Creek
- June 11, 1979: Sexual assault/rape (DNA link), Danville
- June 25, 1979: Sexual assault/rape, Walnut Creek
- July 5, 1979: Attempted sexual assault, Danville
- Oct. 1, 1979: Attempted sexual assault/murder (no DNA) Goleta
- Dec. 30, 1979: 2 people killed, Goleta
- March 13, 1980: Sexual assault/rape, Lyman and Charlene Smith were killed (DNA link), Ventura
- Aug. 19, 1980: Sexual assault/rape, Keith and Patrice Harrington killed, Dana Point
- Feb. 5, 1981: Sexual assault/rape, Manuela Witthuhn killed (DNA link), Irvine
- July 27, 1981: 2 people killed (DNA link), Goleta
- May 4, 1986: Sexual assault/rape, Janelle Cruz killed(DNA link) Irvine''
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That 1981-1986 timeline is really of interest. I really do wonder if he has murders they just haven't yet figured out are him. If they had uncovered more murders over the course of their investigation into him, I'm not so sure he would have had an easy plea bargain like this. But they've also been hampered by coronavirus. Would NOT be shocked if in coming years there is DNA from victims that turn out to be associated with his DNA profile in CODIS.
Also, let's be real, DNA profiling in criminal investigations essentially came of age in 1987 when a genetics researcher in England helped solve a murder. It took off after that. If GSK was remotely aware of DNA as a threat to him, he might have just started using a condom or not engaging in rapes if he was still active in his burglaries, peeping, and murdering. We don't know what drove him to murder. He either enjoyed it or it was a compulsion. I don't think we really know enough about his drives to understand which it is. But, if we assume he liked what he did, and IMO his frequency of attacks suggests he enjoyed it, then it's quite likely there are other victims and he just got smarter.
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There is hardly another individual alive right now who has more blood on their hands. Unless we include people in power.
Don't let him play victim too.
Don't let him play victim too.
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Is this list missing Claude Snelling? That was 1975, right?
More here.. PAGE 1 of 21
https://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/062920-kgo-deangelo-complaint.pdf
''SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIACOUNTY OF SACRAMENTOTHE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,vs.JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO,No. 18FE008017FIRST AMENDED FELONYCOMPLAINT Defendant. The People of the State of California upon oath of the undersigned, upon information and belief complain against the defendant above named for the crime(s) as follows:COUNT ONEOn or about September 11, 1975, at and in the County of Tulare, State of California, the defendant, JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, did commit a felony, namely: a violation of Section 187(a) of the PenalCodeof the State of California, in that said defendant did unlawfully, and with malice aforethought murder CLAUDE SNELLING, a human being.It is further alleged that in the commission and attempted commission of the above offenses(s), the said defendant, JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, personally used a firearm, to wit, a .38 caliber pistol, within the meaning of Penal Code Sections 12022.5''
Golden State Killer: Former police officer Joseph James DeAngelo admits to dozens of rapes, murders
''Among the questions that remain is whether DeAngelo actually stopped his life of crime and, if so, why?
Ho cast doubt on DeAngelo's statement in the interrogation room, saying he had "feigned feeble incoherence" to detectives despite appearing sharp while under surveillance. Ho said DeAngelo had acted crazy when he was arrested for shoplifting three decades earlier.
James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University, said most serial killers do not have dual personalities or inner voices, though movies often portray them that way.
He said serial killers who get away with attacks for years are usually cunning and organized. Someone who suffers from a serious mental illness isn't capable of that. Serial killers who blame an alter-ego for their crimes are usually faking it, he said.
"It's self-serving for someone to suggest that they did all of these things because of this voice: Don't blame me, blame the voice,''' Fox said.''
https://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/062920-kgo-deangelo-complaint.pdf
''SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIACOUNTY OF SACRAMENTOTHE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,vs.JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO,No. 18FE008017FIRST AMENDED FELONYCOMPLAINT Defendant. The People of the State of California upon oath of the undersigned, upon information and belief complain against the defendant above named for the crime(s) as follows:COUNT ONEOn or about September 11, 1975, at and in the County of Tulare, State of California, the defendant, JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, did commit a felony, namely: a violation of Section 187(a) of the PenalCodeof the State of California, in that said defendant did unlawfully, and with malice aforethought murder CLAUDE SNELLING, a human being.It is further alleged that in the commission and attempted commission of the above offenses(s), the said defendant, JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, personally used a firearm, to wit, a .38 caliber pistol, within the meaning of Penal Code Sections 12022.5''
Golden State Killer: Former police officer Joseph James DeAngelo admits to dozens of rapes, murders
''Among the questions that remain is whether DeAngelo actually stopped his life of crime and, if so, why?
Ho cast doubt on DeAngelo's statement in the interrogation room, saying he had "feigned feeble incoherence" to detectives despite appearing sharp while under surveillance. Ho said DeAngelo had acted crazy when he was arrested for shoplifting three decades earlier.
James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University, said most serial killers do not have dual personalities or inner voices, though movies often portray them that way.
He said serial killers who get away with attacks for years are usually cunning and organized. Someone who suffers from a serious mental illness isn't capable of that. Serial killers who blame an alter-ego for their crimes are usually faking it, he said.
"It's self-serving for someone to suggest that they did all of these things because of this voice: Don't blame me, blame the voice,''' Fox said.''
'Golden State Killer' Joseph DeAngelo pleads guilty to 13 murders, dozens of rapes across California
''DeAngelo's very first guilty plea was for the murder of College of the Sequoias Journalism Professor Claude Snelling in the fall of 1975.
Snelling died trying to save his teen daughter from being kidnapped by DeAngelo.
The murder in Visalia is believed to be DeAngelo's first.''
The theory that LE is going with is that since his first daughter was born in 1981, that led him to focus on his family instead of killing and that Cruz was simply an opportunity that he took to relive the "rush" of killing. But I completely agree, I would not at all be surprised if he was connected to more murders (especially in that 1981-86 time frame).
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Look at this incredible image from the DeAngelo hearing. This is the moment: “When asked to describe the assailant, Jane Doe said he had a small penis.” And that very Jane—
@SandlerCarson
— is standing up, staring him down before the applause. (AP photo)
Look at this incredible image from the DeAngelo hearing. This is the moment: “When asked to describe the assailant, Jane Doe said he had a small penis.” And that very Jane—
@SandlerCarson
— is standing up, staring him down before the applause. (AP photo)
Love it!
Golden State Killer Joseph DeAngelo's small penis prompts court laughs | Metro News
''A courtroom erupted with laughter and cheers as a prosecutor told of how a serial sex killer had a small penis. Victims and their relatives applauded as prosecutor Amy Holliday told a court room in Sacramento, California, how multiple women had remarked on Golden State Killer Joseph DeAngelo’s small manhood.''
''One eyewitness in the university ballroom that had been repurposed as a socially-distanced court room said the laughter and applause began after one of 74 year-old DeAngelo’s victims pointed at him. A Zoom feed of the hearing was quickly muted to drown out the sound. ''
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ZUMA Press
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ZUMA Press
launches The Picture of the Day, June 29th, 2020
Joseph James DeAngelo Admits He Is the Golden State Killer
JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, center, and his public defenders JOSEPH CRESS, left, and DIANE HOWARD, right, wear face shields as they stand as the judge enters a makeshift courtroom at Sacramento State University, built for social distancing. DeAngelo admitted to being the Golden State Killer and pleaded guilty to 13 counts of first-degree murder. The string of murders in the 1970s and '80s terrorized California, and the suspect who committed them became known as the Golden State Killer. DeAngelo committed a total of 50 rapes in addition to the 13 murders.
Photo Credit © Daniel Kim/Sacramento Bee via #ZUMAPress
https://vimeo.com/433800093
23 hrs
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ZUMA Press
launches The Picture of the Day, June 29th, 2020
Joseph James DeAngelo Admits He Is the Golden State Killer
JOSEPH JAMES DEANGELO, center, and his public defenders JOSEPH CRESS, left, and DIANE HOWARD, right, wear face shields as they stand as the judge enters a makeshift courtroom at Sacramento State University, built for social distancing. DeAngelo admitted to being the Golden State Killer and pleaded guilty to 13 counts of first-degree murder. The string of murders in the 1970s and '80s terrorized California, and the suspect who committed them became known as the Golden State Killer. DeAngelo committed a total of 50 rapes in addition to the 13 murders.
Photo Credit © Daniel Kim/Sacramento Bee via #ZUMAPress
https://vimeo.com/433800093
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Good recap on how DeAngelo was caught:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article243828237.html
More at link.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article243828237.html
More at link.
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It was hard to look at him knowing he is pure evil. I mean that is one sick and evil man.
Listening to each account in detail was what horror movies are made.
My heart hurts for the Survivors who lived through such a nightmare.
I loved the Families standing up when each was read. I had to wonder if he remembers each and everyone of his victims. I would bet so.
Listening to each account in detail was what horror movies are made.
My heart hurts for the Survivors who lived through such a nightmare.
I loved the Families standing up when each was read. I had to wonder if he remembers each and everyone of his victims. I would bet so.
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I am happy that the family of his victims and the surviving victims were able to get this tiny bit of justice, finally.
This was a case that not many people ever knew about and those that did and were tormented by it for all this time and still are.
They probably never thought they would see the day that this person was caught and brought to trial. My heart goes out to all the victims in this and not only the victims but also the family of the accused as well and what they must also be going through because of him.
This was a case that not many people ever knew about and those that did and were tormented by it for all this time and still are.
They probably never thought they would see the day that this person was caught and brought to trial. My heart goes out to all the victims in this and not only the victims but also the family of the accused as well and what they must also be going through because of him.