So.... Seatbelts. No seatbelts.
No drugs or alcohol. Alcohol!
What the heck is up with all these reports conflicting? What's even real??
Yea it's not right
IMO
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So.... Seatbelts. No seatbelts.
No drugs or alcohol. Alcohol!
What the heck is up with all these reports conflicting? What's even real??
BBM - .102 not 1.02 which is slightly over the legal limit not over 13x, right?
Both have diphenhydramine
Benadryl is often given for motion sickness and nausea. I have a rare connective tissue disorder and one of my symptoms is chronic nausea and vomiting. Part of my regimen for controlling the nausea is Benadryl (or hydroxyzine) twice a day. Nausea control is a side effect of the Diphenhydramine.
From WebMD: Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine used to relieve symptoms of allergy, hay fever, and the common cold. These symptoms include rash, itching, watery eyes, itchy eyes/nose/throat, cough, runny nose, and sneezing. It is also used to prevent and treat nausea, vomiting and dizziness caused by motion sickness. Diphenhydramine can also be used to help you relax and fall asleep.
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-5680/benadryl-oral/details
Toxicology tests found Jennifer Hart had an alcohol level of 0.102, said California Patrol Capt. Bruce Carpenter.
California drivers are considered drunk with a level of 0.08 or higher.
Toxicology tests also found that her wife, Sarah Hart, and two of their children had “a significant amount” of an ingredient commonly found in the allergy drug Benadryl, which can make people sleepy. Toxicology results for a third child killed are still pending, Carpenter said.
Carpenter said none of the car’s occupants were wearing seatbelts.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ho-drove-suv-with-family-off-cliff-was-drunk/
I wonder if they were voluntarily taking this? It doesn't seem like they would if it was a "significant amount". Or the kids didn't know better. Did JH spike something they had? How did they not taste it? There was a risk of this backfiring (unless they'd used it before and known how the kids responded.) Benadryl is known to sometimes have the opposite effect and cause a hyper feeling.
"Somewhat surprisingly, Benadryl can have a paradoxical reaction in some individuals and cause CNS (central nervous system) stimulation, even at recommended dosages. This is sometimes known as paradoxical excitation. Some describe this reaction as making them feel "hyper". Studies indicate that this occurs most commonly in children and adolescents, but has been reported in adults as well."
https://www.pharmacistanswers.com/questions/can-benadryl-make-you-hyper
One more link for those who aren't on Facebook:
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2018/04/hart_mom_was_drunk_when_she_dr.html
(Very brief MSM articles coming out ATM with notation they're to be updated.)
One more link for those who aren't on Facebook:
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2018/04/hart_mom_was_drunk_when_she_dr.html
(Very brief MSM articles coming out ATM with notation they're to be updated.)
Deputies: Jennifer Hart had BAC of .102 at time of crash
How many drinks is that?
As for oral dosing of benadryl, an average adult dose of 50mg is more than sufficient to cause pronounced drowsiness. We actually exploit the drowsiness effects for use in some patients. More than 100 mg would cause marked sleepiness.
Benadryl is in a ton of over the counter meds, Nyquil, cold medicine, itch medicine, motion sickness medicine meds, (along with meclizine/ antivert/ nondrowsy dramamine, and regular dramamine is dimenhydrinate-- also causes marked drowsiness.) It comes in chewables, pediatric liquid, tablets, and capsules (and also in injectable forms as well, but not OTC for that.)
Thank you, people who posted the active ingredient in Benadryl, I was initially confused as to why it was even relevant, as over here the brand name is associated with two different antihistamines (cetirizine and acrivastine), neither of which has any drowsiness effect; I take one of them all year round and the other for several months of the year, so wouldn't find anything at all unusual in either being in people's systems. This is a completely different drug to those I know though, so hmm... well, if it was to make them drowsy, I'm glad: I do hope they were spared the terror of knowing what was coming.
Could the BAC have been even higher at the time of the crash or did they factor in some time had already passed before they were found?
That's barely over the legal limit. I would honestly IMO say she wasn't drunk drunk. Who knows though. It depends, I would think, how often she drank.