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After watching some of the videos around, I'm wondering if the 'parents' (one or both) were hoping that one or more of the kids might become material to be broadcast on 'AMT' or something similar. ($$$?)
What is in the Naselle area? Were there events there? Great camping?
I can't help suspect that Hannah may have had some kind of developmental disorder/issue/delay, both physically and mentally perhaps, just from pics and what little I've seen on videos. Her small stature may be related to some kind of a disorder (and possibly also gum/teeth condition which could potentially have contributed to her permanent teeth coming out in the first place?)? Just my thoughts.
Human, I was just thinking this today! It seems like her life started when she met Sarah. Nothing before. Considering the publicity of this case, I'd think there would be people who would say they knew her from college, high school, etc.
I don't think so. They wanted to stay isolated and in control. A deal like that would bring strangers in to their life, scrutiny, other people would form relationships with the children, there might be questions and criticism, etc. They were all about cutting off the outside world from the beginning.
Article with FBI press release about continuing the search for Devonte and Hannah. It includes the hugging Xavier Rudd video for those who havent seen it.
http://kymkemp.com/2018/04/19/fbi-continues-search-for-two-missing-hart-children/
Is it possible that JH changed her name at some point, or perhaps was previously married and kept the married name, making people from her younger days not necessarily recognize her from the past?
http://katu.com/news/local/after-college-in-south-dakota-harts-adopted-children-in-texas
I am reading a lot of posts that are saying there is not much about JH and SH past. If you google, the info is available They are from South Dakota and met when they were both at university there. No criminal records found for either of them in SD.
I think people were saying that the were surprised that friends from the past, from their college and high school years, weren't coming forward and talking about them-not that you can't find anything out about those years. It is weird because in high-profile cases you usually DO find people coming forward to say, "Well I knew them 22 years ago and..." It doesn't matter how long ago it's been or how well they actually knew them, there's always at least someone from the past who steps forward and seems to want the limelight.
In the beginning it was said that the vehicle had been going 90mph (that's almost 150kph!) with no skid or brake or tire marks.. but then I thought it had been later said that after closer scrutiny, the vehicle was determined to have been stopped at some point, and then was only going something like 20mph when it went over the cliff... I think I'm now seeing again that it was 90mph.. so I'm confused as to which it was, or do they not know?
If the vehicle was going super slow off the cliff, like 20mph that I'm sure I had read somewhere.. it made me wonder if going over the cliff could have been a mistake. (Yes, I may be suffering from denial ) I have been at least a couple of times in my lifetime, at a stoplight/stopsign, when the car was not in 'park', and my foot was on the brake pedal.. but I became distracted, probably by conversation with another in the vehicle, and ever so slightly and slowly, my foot lightened off the pedal, which made my vehicle start to move ever so slowly forward.. I mean, if JH was going 150km straight off the cliff from a stopped position, that is one thing.. but if the vehicle was barely going forward, that *could* potentially be a different thing, no? Thoughts?
In the beginning it was said that the vehicle had been going 90mph (that's almost 150kph!) with no skid or brake or tire marks.. but then I thought it had been later said that after closer scrutiny, the vehicle was determined to have been stopped at some point, and then was only going something like 20mph when it went over the cliff... I think I'm now seeing again that it was 90mph.. so I'm confused as to which it was, or do they not know?
If the vehicle was going super slow off the cliff, like 20mph that I'm sure I had read somewhere.. it made me wonder if going over the cliff could have been a mistake. (Yes, I may be suffering from denial ) I have been at least a couple of times in my lifetime, at a stoplight/stopsign, when the car was not in 'park', and my foot was on the brake pedal.. but I became distracted, probably by conversation with another in the vehicle, and ever so slightly and slowly, my foot lightened off the pedal, which made my vehicle start to move ever so slowly forward.. I mean, if JH was going 150km straight off the cliff from a stopped position, that is one thing.. but if the vehicle was barely going forward, that *could* potentially be a different thing, no? Thoughts?
In the beginning it was said that the vehicle had been going 90mph (that's almost 150kph!) with no skid or brake or tire marks.. but then I thought it had been later said that after closer scrutiny, the vehicle was determined to have been stopped at some point, and then was only going something like 20mph when it went over the cliff... I think I'm now seeing again that it was 90mph.. so I'm confused as to which it was, or do they not know?
If the vehicle was going super slow off the cliff, like 20mph that I'm sure I had read somewhere.. it made me wonder if going over the cliff could have been a mistake. (Yes, I may be suffering from denial ) I have been at least a couple of times in my lifetime, at a stoplight/stopsign, when the car was not in 'park', and my foot was on the brake pedal.. but I became distracted, probably by conversation with another in the vehicle, and ever so slightly and slowly, my foot lightened off the pedal, which made my vehicle start to move ever so slowly forward.. I mean, if JH was going 150km straight off the cliff from a stopped position, that is one thing.. but if the vehicle was barely going forward, that *could* potentially be a different thing, no? Thoughts?
https://web.archive.org/web/20150627182651/http:/papertrail.co.nz/meet-devonte-little-boy-big-heart/It was a life with little hope and a future that seemed over before it began.
That is until Jen Hart and her wife Sarah entered Devonte’s life and adopted him and his two siblings seven years ago.
Jen says the day she met Devonte was frightening and traumatic.
“That night, after we finally got him to sleep, I cried harder than I had ever cried in my life. I felt like there was no way we could raise this child, and the five others we had adopted.”
Yet, she says, there was something inexplicable pulling at her heart.
“I felt more connected to this fragile little boy more than I had ever felt to anyone in my life.”
With their unconditional love, nurturing natures, patience and acceptance, Devonte defied all odds and has grown into a young charismatic man with a heart of gold.
Devonte supporting one of his favourite charitable campaigns, Free Hugs.
“He inspires me every single day. He has proven doctors, psychologists and teachers wrong. His future is most definitely not bleak, he is a shining star in this world. His light shines bright on everyone on his path.
“People always tell us how lucky he is that we adopted him. I tell you, we most certainly are the lucky ones. Yes indeed he is living proof that our past does not dictate our future.”
Devonte’s charm and genuine kindness has surprised his parents on many occasions including the time he asked if he could spend his 11th and 12th birthday raising money for charity. Or the time he clung to musician Xavier Rudd while festival-goers watched an emotional and powerful moment unfold between the two. And then again earlier this week while standing in the grocery store’s checkout line.
One of the articles I just posted mentioned the 90mph could have been as a result of the impact so I'm not sure either. I guess we have to wait for official LE reports.
If it was deliberate, wouldn't there have been some sort of evidence like a suicide note or texts showing some indication?
Only about 25% of people who complete suicide leave notes. It's probably a lower percentage of family annihilators who do. I think LE might find clues in their electronic communications - J and S wouldn't have needed to exchange emails or texts discussing their plans, but they might find info like map routes or googling effects of benadryl.
One of the articles I just posted mentioned the 90mph could have been as a result of the impact so I'm not sure either. I guess we have to wait for official LE reports.
If it was deliberate, wouldn't there have been some sort of evidence like a suicide note or texts showing some indication?
It also could have been an impromptu decision. We don't know that this drive over the cliff was planned. If it was a sudden thing, brought on by strong emotions (panic, vengeance, fear, etc.) or psychosis then there probably wouldn't be a note.