CANADA Canada - Dan Archbald, 37, & Ryan Daley, 43, Ucluelet, Bc, 16 May 2018

Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by kmclaren, May 27, 2018.

  1. OceanSideMedium

    OceanSideMedium Member

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    I totally agree with this. They went for more than a boat in my opinion. Those bags they were carrying were huge. If they were hitch hiking how did they go unseen by anyone. Def something else to it
     
  2. Jackeee

    Jackeee Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn’t take 8 weeks to sail from Panama to Vancouver. Would it?? Where else did they go?
     
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  3. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer "It's never just a mannequin"

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    I googled that question: "How long to sail from Panama to Vancouver" and this thread from Cruisers Forum popped up:

    There are several replies, with a few suggesting that the OP's money-making plan to buy a boat from Central America and sell it for a profit in Vancouver, CA is not a good plan at all.

    I realize that "our" two missing men may have been planning to start a charter business with their new "bargain" boat and not sell it right away, but I think some of the posters on the thread give good advice about the actual reality of their plan.

    (Mods, if this info from this forum link is not allowed, please remove.)

    ETA: changed "travel" to "sail"
     
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  4. Lalalacasbah

    Lalalacasbah Active Member

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    But even if drugs, they wouldn't be in those bags as how would they clear customs? I can see these guys with a small shipment of drugs maybe but they do not seem savvy enough for a cargo/boat-load shipment from Central/South America to cruise right on in with. I mean that just seems like a terrible plan, it almost seems dumb and way too risky if this was the case. But then again, maybe that's the reason for them missing. It seems like there has to be something else to this!
     
  5. Jackeee

    Jackeee Well-Known Member

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    IMO, someone close to them knows or suspects something.
    I don’t know the ins and outs, but it’s close to home. Again JMO because I’m baffled.
     
  6. kmclaren

    kmclaren Active Member

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    I've been wondering about that too. Maybe they stopped in Jordan River and dropped off something at the property - something they didn't want to declare at customs? They would have gone practically right by Jordan River on their way to Ucluelet. And it seems getting back to Jordan River was more important than reuniting with their families. So I guess that's my new question - what was in Jordan River waiting for them other than a big, rural property?
     
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    ttcRider Well-Known Member

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    I have had these same thoughts going thru my head. Glad I wasnt alone in my thoughts. Thats why I was wondering what customs would be like going thru Ucluelet. Im pretty sure you can find an awesome boat here in Canada, especially on the coast.
     
  8. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Well-Known Member

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    I live in Australia where we pretty much all live on the coast, where there are boats for sale everywhere, but I know two people who went to Asia to buy boats and sailed them home. One of the owners of boats in a Malaysian port was German and was selling it from there and the other was being sold by a French man in Indonesia. I think sailing it home is part of the adventure.
     
  9. Satchie

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    I don't want to discount that possibility, but I don't believe it's easy-peasy. Canadian Border Control are aware of this possible smuggling strategy too, it's not an uncontrolled border.

    You have to report in by phone as soon as you cross the border by boat. You might be called in for inspection or allowed to proceed to port. But they know which boat is which and can keep a watch on you via radar, etc., and you're not permitted to so much as moor your boat, much less go ashore, until you've gone to an official customs boat dock. There is also surveillance of that area because of the lucrative commercial fishery.

    Travellers - Reporting requirements for private boaters
     
  10. Mr ED

    Mr ED Verified Expert - Tax and Financial Accounting

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    The backpacks are what bother me. The first guy in the video has a Cargo backpack that seems empty. He is not leaning forward, pack over only right shoulder and has a wide walking stride as he is walking. That pack could hold 100lbs and is at least 75l holding size. The other guy has two backpacks and they have weight to them as he walks. It seams to me that they were going somewhere to retrieve something that was remote and nobody would know them or pay attention to them.
     
  11. OceanSideMedium

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    I’ve been getting “inlet” in my head. So I started to wonder how they could possible get through the inlet. Their boat is docked.

    I feel like if they actually headed in the direction they told the harbour manager, at least 1 person would see them.

    Then it hit me. Just a theory of course. What if they have a boat in the bag. I decided to see if that’s possible and found these.

    What do you guys think
     

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  12. Jackeee

    Jackeee Well-Known Member

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    I like that theory.
     
  13. AzPistonsGirl

    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    I like this theory too. Good insight.
     
  14. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    “Through” the inlet to where? Your post confuses me.

    I’m not saying they couldn’t/didn’t walk towards the parking lot then veer off to be picked up by boat & double back down or further up the coast by water; that’s actually a really interesting theory.
     
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    interesting yes! but they would need to move the inflatable boat/paddleboard somehow and they don't have oars with them. By the looks of the sailboat they have (still pic from movie) an inflatable already on there with a small Yamaha engine on the back so it would have been way easier to use that.
     

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  16. OceanSideMedium

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    These come with motors. They would have to carry it in another bag. This is all theory obviously. But the bag looks similar
     

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  17. OceanSideMedium

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    Sorry I made that confusing. Please ask anything else. And obviously this is theory. I attached what I mean by inlet
     

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    Wife says husband on dream voyage from Panama, now 'heartbreaking' disappearance

    Nothing else new in the article, except family and friends have been searching logging roads.
     
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  20. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    Well, it does clear up one question we’ve had:

     

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