CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #5

Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by Strangeworld, Jul 19, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. musicaljoke

    musicaljoke Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,476
    Likes Received:
    6,265
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, you could be right. They'd need money for first & last rent on an apartment, some furnishings, perhaps some work clothes and boots, food, gas, and misc items. If they were getting financial help from home, they may have left with a few thousand dollars.
     
    Tarika, Curious Me and Zella like this.
  2. musicaljoke

    musicaljoke Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,476
    Likes Received:
    6,265
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LadyL, Tarika and Dawookie like this.
  3. Kaie

    Kaie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    1,121
    Trophy Points:
    93
    It’s still possible that one of them hasn’t fired a single shot
     
    TimesEight, Kubirai, cody22 and 6 others like this.
  4. musicaljoke

    musicaljoke Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,476
    Likes Received:
    6,265
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The fugitives couldn't possibly be out in the elements this long. If they were simply lost, then they would be out of their minds with desperation to be found.

    The RCMP must have had some significant evidence that the two were in the area, apart from the burned out RAV. So have they holed up in someone's home? Could that be another reason why the RCMP announced that they were going door to door? I think that everything the RCMP says is put out there with a purpose.
     
  5. Curious Me

    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

    Messages:
    12,337
    Likes Received:
    6,238
    Trophy Points:
    113
    KM wearing his casual tee shirt takes the lead in their stroll around the store and BS follows dreamily while buttoning his camo costume. They are dressed so different from each other that in itself is noticeable right off, IMO. However, looks like they must both be in agreement on what they're doing, and maybe this was "the plan".

    Canada murders: Fresh CCTV footage of suspects in Lucas Fowler killing released

    "In the footage released by police on Friday (local time), the two are seen casually walking around a store in Meadow Lake, in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan."

    "The Royal Canadian Mounted Police, known colloquially as Mounties, said the footage was shot on July 21, six days after the bodies of Sydney man Mr Fowler, 23, and his American girlfriend Chynna Deese, 24, were discovered on a highway in British Columbia."
     
    Tarika, tmar, Trooper and 2 others like this.
  6. sleuth3000

    sleuth3000 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    153
    Likes Received:
    1,041
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Hotel right down the st from KM house charges almost 1000$ a night (not a typo)
    Cant imagine throwing your kid a few grand to start a new life chapter would ruffle the feathers much of folk like that

    Also, no reason to think this is happening in this case, but its fairly common for family members to help out people accused of even serious crimes, especially parents. A fairly recent highly publicized murder case, the guy admitted he did it, the father still tried to set up a go-fund-me or some such to "bring him home", and mind you, the guy had already confessed to what was a pretty brutal killing
     
  7. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

    Messages:
    13,017
    Likes Received:
    127,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hold up! That's not correct. RCMP provided that the store video captured at Co-op in Meadow Lake was July 21 -- same day as they got stuck in Cold Lake. The locations were only 1.5 hours apart.

    RCMP Manitoba‏Verified account @rcmpmb
    This video was obtained in Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan, on July 21, 2019. We are releasing this video as it may generate additional tips or sightings.

    2:46 PM - 26 Jul 2019

    Also, authorities report the Rav4 was found burning on Monday evening, - July 22.

    RCMP Manitoba‏Verified account @rcmpmb
    On Monday evening, RCMP recovered a vehicle in the Gillam area after receiving a report of a vehicle fire. We can now confirm this vehicle is the same vehicle the suspects were travelling in. #rcmpmb

    1:06 PM - 24 Jul 2019
     
    HayLouise, Zella, PixieStix and 5 others like this.
  8. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,342
    Likes Received:
    9,956
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I am deeply interested, not that I hold out much hope of ever knowing for sure, which one of them shot Chynna. It seems logical to me, that Lucas would have been eliminated first, due to his gender, his size, his attitude, perhaps. But Chynna would have been so utterly vulnerable having seen Lucas murdered, so distraught and so terrified, and one of those boys up and shot her , in the face.

    I wonder which one it was. And then , after that, which one shot Prof Dyck. An older man, unarmed, unthreatening.

    They certainly picked targets of not much degree of difficulty.
     
    scriabina, steelybird, Zella and 10 others like this.
  9. PingTheRouter

    PingTheRouter Ghetto Superstar

    Messages:
    473
    Likes Received:
    3,014
    Trophy Points:
    93
    i was actually thinking this before, what if Kam never did anything and was afraid to try and leave Bryer in case he killed him, it is possible this is what happened

    maybe they just meant to scare the couple into giving them cash and Bryer went too far and then just continued on as his warped fantasy continued
     
    steelybird, TimesEight, PaulR and 5 others like this.
  10. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

    Messages:
    13,017
    Likes Received:
    127,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry -- by the looks of them on July 21 strolling through the
    Co-op in Meadow Lake, I don't see any signs of distress by either one. I don't sense any fear in KM of BS.

    MOO
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2019
    abeaman02, LadyL, Zella and 7 others like this.
  11. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,342
    Likes Received:
    9,956
    Trophy Points:
    113

    It is a theory that has merit, … except one has to give merit to Kam for just watching Bryer murder a man, a woman, and an elderly man. Watch and do nothing, and be complicit. An accomplice. Three times. .. I just can't see that, as an operative dynamic and as a psychological probability.

    These were all three messy murders. Nothing clean about them, and nothing even vaguely from a distance. Close up, and personal. And then , the activity after the killing. … .
     
    steelybird, Zella, PixieStix and 6 others like this.
  12. Curious Me

    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

    Messages:
    12,337
    Likes Received:
    6,238
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're so right about serious addicted Gamers.

    You also said - "My bet is they’re hunkered down somewhere - with a homeowner they may have killed or are keeping hostage."

    That's been one of my fears that they've overpowered some homebody and are keeping them hostage, or worse.
     
  13. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    85,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We may never know for sure. If they are taken alive, they will probably point fingers at each other, each looking for a deal of some kind.
     
    steelybird, Zella, Ooohm and 4 others like this.
  14. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    85,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is my greatest fear right now too. I hope the neighbours are checking in with each other.
     
  15. Optics

    Optics Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    508
    Likes Received:
    3,034
    Trophy Points:
    93
    @Seattle1 Oh cripes, Apologies that's correct, I was "alone in my head without my own adult mathematical supervision" Thanks for knocking me awake. and correcting me, its been a long two weeks but not nearly as long as for the RCMP. So sorry I didn't mean to confuse.
     
    LadyL, steelybird, PixieStix and 6 others like this.
  16. sleepinoz

    sleepinoz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,296
    Likes Received:
    16,475
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whoever would have thought that a couple of teenagers could evade the RCMP for this long - does my head in.
     
    steelybird, Alisajo, 1968 and 7 others like this.
  17. KR72

    KR72 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    2,509
    Trophy Points:
    93
    The more that comes out (especially the latest article from the Globe and Mail), the more it's obvious that both of these men have serious issues. BS may have been more overt about his apparent love of Nazis and violence...most people would be turned off by that, but not KM. He even agreed to go "look for work" with BS, so it's not like KM was somehow normal and being friendly and tolerating BS because he felt badly for him. KM is every bit sick in the head for even wanting to associate so closely with someone as messed up as BS, imo.

    BS seems so try-hardy...the Nazi paraphernalia, the camo gear, the more obvious violent statements. I think BS is totally into this entire mess, but KM is as well - he's just not as overt, which makes me wonder if he's carrying more of the power in the relationship, which seems to echo what their entire lives have been about - he comes from a more well off background, BS spent time at his home instead of the other way around and so on. BS is who he is, while KM was just a whole lot more sly. Many sociopaths have many people fooled, and I think that's what happened with KM's friends who thought he seemed normal.
     
    abeaman02, LadyL, steelybird and 10 others like this.
  18. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

    Messages:
    13,017
    Likes Received:
    127,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ashley Wadhwani‏ @ashwadhwani
    . @rcmpmb issues update: Officers have conducted and continue to search high-probability areas in the area of Gillam for B.C. fugitives Bryer Schmegelsky, and Kam McLeod. Over the next 72 hours, investigators are conducting door-to-door canvasing in the region. #Canadamanhunt

    1:03 PM - 26 Jul 2019 pst
     
    HayLouise, grannygates, Zella and 3 others like this.
  19. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

    Messages:
    13,017
    Likes Received:
    127,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ashley Wadhwani‏ @ashwadhwani
    Spoke to Keith McLeod, father of Kam McLeod, very briefly. He said things have calmed down around their Port Alberni home after yesterday's twist in the police investigation of 3 deaths in northern B.C. that named his son and Bryer Schmegelsky as suspects. His statement:

    [​IMG]
    12:03 PM - 24 Jul 2019 pst
     
  20. Kaie

    Kaie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    1,121
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I mentioned something in the last thread about how I thought it possible that the burning vehicle at Gillam was to draw LE resources that way while the suspects head off in a different direction. A decoy.

    It’s so easy for us to assume that the most senseless acts imaginable were committed by people who have got to be stupid. I still have no idea what their intentions were when they left Port Alberni, or whether this was all part of a plan... but I am starting to think their ability to avoid capture has nothing to do with dumb luck.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice