Canada - Sentry killed in War Memorial shooting, Ottawa, 22 Oct 2014

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I wonder if the guy who jumped the fence to the white house today was a copy cat in itself.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/22/man-apprehended-after-jumping-white-house-fence/20982664/

The others injured :

"Apart from first patient, they had minor, non-life threatening injuries and remain in hospital at this time," hospital spokeswoman Hazel Harding told ABC News. One of the patients was a Parliamentary Security officer who had been shot in the leg when the gunman entered the building, but the hospital said that it was an "extremity gunshot wound" and is "quite stable." Two others were brought to the hospital with unspecified injuries. All three were later released.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/cops-shots-fired-canadian-parliament-injured/story?id=26372013
 
early on there were two eyewitnesses:

one said skinny guy with long hair
second one said (referring to seeing body on floor walking by after shooting) obese older person

((don't have links --))

it surprised me when I read this

"Bathurst remembered him as a large-framed white man and said he thought he might have played football at one time.

He could not tell from if the photo of Zehaf-Bibeau holding a rifle, which circulated online Wednesday, was the same man his company hired last spring. His son was also unable to confirm the identity of the man in the photograph.''

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...au-had-lived-in-montreal-vancouver-and-Aylmer

am going to say extra prayers that they got the bogeyman and that there is not another one running amok tonight.....
 
Interesting … apparently, some US govt sources are saying that the shooter’s name was Michael Joseph Hall.

Don’t know where that name comes from, maybe it is an alias, but the Globe and Mail are saying this .....

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, the slain 32-year-old suspected killer of a Canadian Forces soldier near Parliament Hill, was a labourer and small-time criminal – a man who had had a religious awakening and seemed to have become mentally unstable.

Mr. Zehaf-Bibeau was born in 1982 and was the son of Bulgasem Zehaf, a Quebec businessman who appears to have fought in 2011 in Libya, and Susan Bibeau, the deputy chairperson of a division of Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board. The two were divorced in 1999.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...otings-had-a-disturbing-side/article21252419/
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So, they are saying that his father may have been a man who, in 2011, travelled to Libya to join the rebel fighters.

Just six weeks ago, the Ottawa shooter, Michael, said he wanted to travel to Libya … and that is when he was blocked from travelling. He was also asked to stop attending prayers at a Burnaby mosque due to his erratic behaviour.
 
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"Video from a dashboard camera appears to show the gunman in the Ottawa shooting leaving the National War Memorial and getting into an illegally parked vehicle on Wellington St. in Ottawa."

Dashcam video at this link ....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...t-hill-shooter-michael-zehaf-bibeau-1.2809610
 
https://twitter.com/CTVNorma/status/525130461522059264


Norma Reid @CTVNorma · 6h 6 hours ago

Authorities are searching for Susan Bibeau in Montreal tonight - she's the suspected shooter's mom and a high ranking Gov. employee.

OPP looking for vehicles belonging to Bibeau's mother
newstalk1010.com
Looking to question her
 
newone said:
"Law enforcement and U.S. government sources told CBS News the suspect's birth name was Michael Joseph Hall, born in Quebec in 1982. He recently converted to Islam and called himself Michael Abdul Zehaf-Bibeau. Sources said he had a history of drug addiction prior to his conversion"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/canadian-soldier-shot-at-ottawa-war-memorial/
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Very confusing. Did his birth certificate say Michael Joseph Hall? Yet his mum is Susan Bibeau.

Is he the son of Bulgasem Zehaf,who Susan Bibeau was apparently married to until 1999? :confused:

Where does the birth last name Hall come from? Perhaps Zehaf was Bibeau's 2nd husband and/or not the birth father of the shooter?
 
TIMELINE OF TERROR IN THE CANADIAN CAPITAL: SHOOTINGS IN OTTAWA

9.52am: Gunfire reported to emergency services at the National War Memorial. One reporter there said he saw a man shot and fall to the ground and another run.

9.54am: Gunfire breaks out in the Ottawa Parliament's Centre Block building

9.56am: Multiple gunshots ring out inside the Parliament building and a reporter says he witnesses a body lying motionless on the ground outside the Library of Parliament.
At the same time it is reported that a soldier has been shot at the War Memorial

9.58am: Passersby witness CPR being urgently performed on the soldier as he lies stricken on the ground

9.59am: A police source confirms that there is an 'active shooter' situation currently underway inside the Canadian Parliament.

10.00am: Heavily armed rapid response teams arrive at the Parliament Hill building

10.04am: A number of witnesses at the War Memorial claim to see the soldiers assailant running towards Parliament Hill carrying a large rifle

10.05am: Officers at the War Memorial shout 'there is a shooter on the loose' to the public and tell them to clear the area

10.12am: Parliament Hill is put into official lockdown

10.13am: Those who saw the shooter at the War Memorial say that he had dark hair, a dark complexion and a scarf on his head and was armed with a rifle.

10.18am: A grey Toyota Carolla is found with no front or back license plates. Witnesses claim to have seen two shooters emerge from it.

10.24am: A staff member at the Parliament cafeteria claims to have seen a man drive away from Parliament Hill in a black Chrysler and enter the building with a hunting rifle

10.30am: Reports start emerging that the gunman at Parliament's Centre Block was shot and killed

10.37am: Prime Minister Stephen Harper is confirmed to no longer be on the premises of Parliament Hill.

10.42am: Police say a shooter is still on the loose: 'There's an active shooter, we haven't got it contained yet.'

10.53am: RCMP advises citizens to 'stay off rooftops and away from windows in the downtown core'

10.54am: Reports of shootings by the Rideau Centre and a nearby hotel - although they later said there had been no incidents at these sites

11am: Police say they are still searching for a shooter or shooters


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ier-standing-guard-National-War-Memorial.html

(Timeline from this article)
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29736853
rbbm.

"The suspect grew up in Laval, a city north of Montreal in Quebec.

Canadian media said his father, Bulgasem Zehaf, was originally from Libya and ran a cafe in Montreal. His mother, named as Susan Bibeau, worked at Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board.

The pair were said to have divorced in 1999.
 
SouthAussie said:
Very confusing. Did his birth certificate say Michael Joseph Hall? Yet his mum is Susan Bibeau.

Is he the son of Bulgasem Zehaf,who Susan Bibeau was apparently married to until 1999? :confused:


Where does the birth last name Hall come from? Perhaps Zehaf was Bibeau's 2nd husband and/or not the birth father of the shooter?
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This is very interesting to me. Where did the more English sounding name come from?
 
"His father’s history offers a hint of what Mr. Bathurst was concerned about. In 2011, a Montrealer named “Belgasem Zahef” was quoted in a Washington Times dispatch from the front in Libya, where he had travelled to join the rebel fight. The man described being detained at the Zawiyah oil terminal, where he witnessed torture.

At the Burnaby mosque, Mr. Bathurst said his friend’s “erratic” behaviour – he did not elaborate – caused frictions with the elders at the house of worship, who asked him to stop attending prayers. At that time, Mr. Zehaf-Bibeau was living in a barely furnished single-room apartment.

Mr. Bathurst said he recalls his friend being arrested at the mosque a few years ago after bizarrely calling police to tell them about a crime he had committed many years before."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...otings-had-a-disturbing-side/article21252419/
 
"In 2003, at the St-Jérôme courthouse, he pleaded guilty to charges of robbery, theft and conspiracy and was sentenced to a prison term of two years less one day followed by three years of probation. That same year, he also pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, also at the St-Jérôme courthouse, and was sentenced to a six-month prison term and three years of probation.

"In 2002, at a time when Zehaf Bibeau might have been residing in Aylmer, he was convicted, under the name Michael Bibeau, in a case involving fake credit cards, was fined $100 and granted an absolute discharge. That same year, in Laval, he pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm and received a suspended sentence.

In 2001, he was charged with violating a condition set as part of a sentence he received as a young offender."

http://montrealgazette.com/news/nat...a-appears-to-have-criminal-record-in-montreal
 
newone said:
mother is deputy chairman of a division of immigration and refugee board

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...otings-had-a-disturbing-side/article21252419/
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It's interesting that his mother has positioned herself in a role that makes decisions about who will be a new Canadian.

Did the murderer suddenly, out of the blue, have crazy ideas about killing people if they did not adhere to his set of beliefs (per ISIL), or was he predisposed, perhaps during his upbringing, to have strong feeling about others that have different beliefs?

I think that the shooting at the memorial was supposed to serve as a distraction - to pull security away from Parliament Hill, and make it easier for him to enter the building with a gun
 
"The mother of the Muslim convert who shot dead a Canadian solider outside Parliament on Wednesday has said she is crying for the victims, rather than for her son.
In a brief and tear-filled telephone call on Thursday, Michael Zehaf-Bibeau's mother Susan Bibeau told the Associated Press she did not know what to say to those hurt in the attack.

'Can you ever explain something like this?' she said. 'We are sorry.'

Susan Bibeau, whose son had his passport seized after he was designated a 'high-risk traveler', works as a federal public servant for the Immigrant & Refugee board and lives in Montreal."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-solider-opened-fire-Canadian-Parliament.html

There is a pic of his mum at this link. She has worked for IRB for 24 years, starting as a refugee protection officer, and is now Deputy Chairperson, Immigration Division.
 
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