Canada - Shooting spree in Moncton, NB, leaves 3 RCMP officers dead, 2 injured, June 2014 *Guilty*

bbm.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/06/06/21721556.html

"Bourque was unarmed when he was arrested at 12:10 a.m. in a wooded, residential area of the city.

Weapons were found in the vicinity, Snowman said. Charges were being prepared and were expected to be filed later in the day on Friday.

Bourque is expected in court at 2 p.m.
 
Lengthy article..updated
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...onctonians-relieved/article19039658/?page=all



"RCMP MOURNS FOR FALLEN MOUNTIES

The three slain officers were members of the Codiac regional detachment, which covers the area around Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview.

Constable Ross is from Victoriaville, Que. He had been posted in New Brunswick for seven years. A K-9 squad dog handler, he is the father of a young boy and his wife is expecting another child. After being posted to Moncton, he married a local nurse, Rachael Vander Ploeg.

For the past four or five years, Constable Ross attended Hillside Baptist Church, about two kilometres from where the gunman lived.

It was at the Hillside church that the officer met his future wife, Ms. Vander Ploeg, said another churchgoer, Charles Doucet.

"He said he considered himself very lucky to have married such a great woman," Mr. Doucet recalled.

Constable Ross was not a loquacious man but he was friendly and humble, he said.

Constable Ross' s modest home sits just 100 metres from the wooded area where police arrested Mr. Bourque early Friday. Neighbours said he would always exchange gifts with them at Christmas, such as wine or cookies. He was rarely seen without his police dog at his side.

"There are just no words to describe how broken up we are about this, " said one neighbour. "He was not only a police officer but a very good friend."

Other neighbours simply teared up at the mention of his name and said their thoughts are with his wife Rachael.

Constable Gevaudan is a native of France. He was born in Boulogne-Billancourt, near Paris. He joined the RCMP in Regina. After graduating from the training academy in 2008, he was posted to New Brunswick where he was a general-duty officer. He was also a member of the RCMP dive unit.

Constable Larche is from Saint John. He graduated from training depot in 2002 and was first posted in Miramichi. He performed highway patrols. In 2008, he received a Commander's Commendation for saving the life of an unconscious baby.

In December, 2004, Larche was quoted in an article from The Daily Gleaner about the Doaktown RCMP's detachment’s efforts to reduce the number of drunk-driving cases over the winter holidays to zero. "About 150 to 200 vehicles will be stopped within an hour, raising public awareness with the issues of drinking and driving," Larche told The Daily Gleaner.

Constable Larche was also referenced in a June, 2005, article, when he escorted 27 graduates from Doaktown Consolidated High School into the a gymnasium for their graduation ceremony.

In March 2012, Constable Larche testified “in a trial for assault with weapon and being unlawfully at large” and described an incident a 2010 trial in which a man threw the Criminal Code at a judge, according to an article from The Moncton Times and Transcript"
 
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RIP

David Ross

Fabrice Georges Gevaudan

Douglas James Larche
 
Don't forget Christee or she'll come after you! uh huh...

j/k snort...

:seeya:
:what:
Silly Doc...I'm really a nice person, a bit weird but otherwise...know what I'm sayin'? :giggle:
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http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/29316

"Friday, June 6, 2014,
Police headquarters, lobby,
Book of Condolence for RCMP officers,
David Joseph Ross, Fabrice Georges Gevaudan, and
Douglas James Larche


Broadcast time: 12:53
Friday, June 6, 2014

Corporate Communications
416-808-7100


A book of condolence for RCMP Constables David Joseph Ross, Fabrice Georges Gevaudan, and Douglas James Larche has been placed in the lobby of Toronto Police Service Headquarters at 40 College Street for members of the public to sign".
 
It's so sad that we can't seem to do anything to prevent the downward spiral into insanity and violence, even though some alert friends could see that he was losing it.

But there's a common pattern in the behaviour of those who descend into gun violence. Can't we establish a national "Help Line" to report such individuals in an attempt to prevent such tragedy?

I think this is needed in the U.S., too. One problem, as someone noted earlier, is that there is a clear profile of only when statements to different individuals and instances of odd behavior are pieced together in retrospect. Is there really a way we can identify these individuals before they erupt in violence, to justify reporting them? Would a visit from authorities/mental health professionals prompted by such a report only anger the person further, heightening any existing persecution complex?

I ask these questions because some of the comments and behaviors noted about JB remind me of a friend. My friend doesn't fit the general profile of someone on the verge of a violent rampage. Most who reach that tipping point are young males. My friend is a female in her 50's, and she talks a lot about love. She does fit some aspects of the profile in that she has a persecution complex, a sense of entitlement and has made some alarming comments about guns over the years. I don't even know if she owns a gun, though. She lives in another state. Like some of JB's friends who backed away from their friendship when he began making alarming comments, I recently eased off on my communications with my friend, including blocking many of her FB comments because I had dozens of posts from her alone, mostly government conspiracy and radical religious posts and many in all caps. Even my last email from her began that way and it really didn't make sense to me.

So, how do we truly develop a profile of someone who is prone to committing a violent act, and how do we determine what the tipping point is? Should our suspicions be reported through a mental health hotline or to local authorities? Hopefully, something positive can come about through this terrible tragedy and the spate of violence we've seen in the U.S. if we can arrive at a system that can avert future rampages.
 


Const Douglas James Larche :rose:



Const Dave Joseph Ross :rose:



Const Fabrice Georges Gevaudan :rose:
 
I think this is needed in the U.S., too. One problem, as someone noted earlier, is that there is a clear profile of only when statements to different individuals and instances of odd behavior are pieced together in retrospect. Is there really a way we can identify these individuals before they erupt in violence, to justify reporting them? Would a visit from authorities/mental health professionals prompted by such a report only anger the person further, heightening any existing persecution complex?

<wonderful comments snipped for space>

So, how do we truly develop a profile of someone who is prone to committing a violent act, and how do we determine what the tipping point is? Should our suspicions be reported through a mental health hotline or to local authorities? Hopefully, something positive can come about through this terrible tragedy and the spate of violence we've seen in the U.S. if we can arrive at a system that can avert future rampages.

Indy Anna, you are asking very important questions. I want to hug you for your insight and intelligence.

If we learn nothing, make no changes, and continue with the same way of ignoring our suspicions then this is going to happen again. It might be a bit easier to set up a mental health hotline in Canada than in the US because we don't have a cultural entitlement to own weapons. Even though we can't force a person to receive mental health care, we may be able to keep weapons away from them if their mental health condition indicates a descent into violence.

I'm sure that this will give lawyers fodder for human rights debate for years.
 
Indy Anna, you are asking very important questions. I want to hug you for your insight and intelligence.

If we learn nothing, make no changes, and continue with the same way of ignoring our suspicions then this is going to happen again. It might be a bit easier to set up a mental health hotline in Canada than in the US because we don't have a cultural entitlement to own weapons. Even though we can't force a person to receive mental health care, we may be able to keep weapons away from them if their mental health condition indicates a descent into violence.

I'm sure that this will give lawyers fodder for human rights debate for years.

Great points, WSer's!!:loveyou:

I just read this -stating what can occur right now in Canada if people are concerned about somebody. But do people even know they can do this? I have no idea what's in place here in Australia.....

And, as ever, the trick is in knowing whether to act on a gut feeling or instinct that all is not well. We're not raised to trust those feelings.....but I'm sure many of JB's friends - like you Indy Anna - experienced them.

(Thanks for sharing your experience with your friend, Indy Anna. :seeya:It's a great example of how tricky it can be to judge whether action needs to be taken IMO).

Canadian law explicitly provides options for anyone who observes such behaviour. Bourque was known to possess firearms, and was showing dangerous signs of mental illness and perhaps violent intent. Anyone could have notified the police or the Canadian Firearms Centre, just by making a phone call, and explained their concerns. The police could then have visited Bourque, seized his firearms and taken him for psychiatric evaluation. This sort of thing already happens. This is not science fiction — it’s part of the daily duties of our police forces. Sometimes, such interventions are eventually deemed unwarranted, and the firearms are returned to the individual. Other times, if it is concluded that they are indeed a threat to themselves and others, even if institutionalization is not called for, the police can keep the guns effectively indefinitely.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...aising-huge-red-flags-did-anyone-report-them/
 
I was watching CTV news today which showed shooter guy (no name he is a non entity to me) arriving for Court. I couldn't help but smile. The van he was in pulled into a secure area and out of sight. So no sighting of him. Following was another vehicle. They parked in the open. Out came 4-5 men dressed in fatigues with fire power strapped across their chest (as he was on his mission) They quickly went in behind him.The irony was rich.
 
" Candles lined the streets of Moncton Friday evening as hundreds of residents gathered for a sombre vigil in honour of three RCMP officers killed in a shooting rampage.

The front steps of Codiac RCMP headquarters in downtown Moncton overflowed with flowers, balloons and messages of support as the local community came together the grieve the tragic loss of three young officers.

During a press conference Friday morning, Commanding Officer of the RCMP in New Brunswick Roger Brown said the organization, "lost three incredible members."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/hundre...-fallen-rcmp-officers-1.1856073#ixzz33vMrENns
 
As for the accused...


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...earch_for_a_killer_that_paralyzed_a_city.html

"He also had a growing obsession with guns. But what might have triggered his allegedly targeting of police is a mystery. Glenn Woods, former director of the RCMP&#8217;s behavioural sciences unit, said it&#8217;s likely something he had been thinking about for a long time.

&#8220;They stew about it and at some point talk themselves into taking this action,&#8221; Woods said in a phone interview from his Ottawa office. &#8220;Actually, they fantasize about it. They sit there and think about how this is going to unfold.&#8221;

Woods said he also wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the recent shooting in California, where a college student killed several people, sparked the Moncton shooter into action.

&#8220;These guys fall into two categories: they&#8217;re either imitators or innovators,&#8221; Woods said. &#8220;And most of them are imitators. If they read about or see a shooting case, that can spark a thought in their head to follow through"
 

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