Canada - Eight bodies found in a marsh, near US border, Tsi Snaihne, Akwesasne, Quebec, 30 March 2023 *POIs sought*

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''The Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service says they are investigating after the bodies of six people were found late Thursday afternoon in the St. Lawrence River by a marsh area near Akwesasne, Que.

Akwesasne is close to the United States border across from New York state.

Police say the search has been called off for the night and is to resume Friday.

A police marine unit searched the area Thursday evening with help from the Canadian Coast Guard and the Hogansburg Akwesasne Volunteer Fire Department.

The Akwesasne Mohawk Police say in a release that they will seek help from the Quebec provincial police and Ontario Provincial Police air support units.

Police say they are waiting on the results of post-mortem and toxicology tests to determine the cause of death.

“The first body was located around 5:00 P.M. in a marsh area in Tsi Snaihne, Akwesasne, Quebec,” police said in a statement on Facebook.


“Police are attempting to identify the deceased persons at this time and ascertain their status in Canada. There is no threat to the public at this time.”
 
''The Journal de Montréal, citing anonymous police sources, said migrants who were trying to clandestinely to enter the United States from Canada were among the dead.

One of the six bodies was a child with a Canadian passport, police chief Shawn Dulude told CBC News.

The Tsi Snaihne district where the bodies were found lies on the southern shore of the St. Lawrence River in Quebec, east of Akwesasne’s Kana:takon district and the southern portion of the community in the U.S.

The coast guard had responded to an AMPS request earlier on Thursday to help locate a missing man, Casey Oakes, 30. Based on how the statement about the deceased people was written, Oakes has not been identified as one of them and is still considered missing.

AMPS said further updates would be provided as the investigation continues.''

 
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''The bodies of six people, including one child, were found in the St. Lawrence River Thursday afternoon after an air search involving the Canadian Coast Guard, the Akwesasne Mohawk Police said.

CTV News confirmed the deceased child was found with a Canadian passport.

The police service said the first body was found around 5 p.m. in a marsh in Tsi Snaihne (Snye) in Akwesasne, a Mohawk territory that straddles Quebec, Ontario and New York state.''

''Maj. Trevor Reid, a spokesperson for the Joint Rescue Coordination Centre (JRCC) Trenton, said that a crew on board a Canadian Armed Forces Griffon helicopter discovered an overturned boat in the area where the bodies were located.

Police confirmed that the discovery of the bodies followed a search for a missing person that also started Thursday. ''
 
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''Police in Akwesasne, along with coast guard helicopters and dive teams were scouring the shores of the St. Lawrence River for a missing child Friday morning after finding six bodies in a marsh in Snye, Akwesasne in Quebec the previous evening.

Police said they believed the six people died while attempting to enter the U.S. from Canada. The six people — five adults and one child under three — were from two families, one Indian and one Romanian.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Deputy Chief Lee-Ann O’Brien said they determined there was another child missing by finding the child’s passport on the body of one of the Romanian adults. Both children were Canadian citizens, she said. She said all six of the deceased were Canadian residents, though she would not comment on how long they had been in Canada.


O’Brien said the incident had nothing to do with the recent closure of the Roxham Road, formerly a frequent crossing for people seeking asylum in Canada, until a new border deal was reached between Canada and the U.S. last week. The deceased travellers, she said, were moving in the opposite direction, from Canada to the States.''
 
''AKWESASNE, QUEBEC Police in the Mohawk Territory of Akwesasne say they have found the bodies of two more people, including an infant, who were among a group of migrants who died trying to cross into the United States.

Authorities had found the bodies of five adults and one child on Thursday, members of two families of Romanian and Indian descent.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Chief Shawn Dulude said authorities are still looking for 30-year-old Casey Oakes, who was last seen Wednesday operating a boat that was found next to the bodies of the migrants.


Josie Swamp watched as a helicopter hovered low above the trees on an island directly in front of her longtime residence Friday.''

“I really don’t know what he was doing out there,” she said of Oakes, who is believed to have been piloting a boat that capsized. “It was a bad night, there was a storm going through and it was really bad. It must have been real rough.”

''Akwesasne Mohawk Police Deputy Chief Lee-Ann O’Brien said they determined there was another child missing by finding the child’s passport on the body of one of the Romanian adults. Both children were Canadian citizens, she said.''
 
Do people in Romania and India really have lives so terrible there that they have to 'escape',' first to Canada and then the US? speculation, imo.

''AKWESASNE, QUEBEC The deaths of eight migrants in the frigid waters of the St. Lawrence River this week were preceded by cries for help that went unanswered before the voices went silent.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service Chief Shawn Dulude made the awful revelation in announcing Friday afternoon that two lifeless bodies — a child of Romanian origin with Canadian citizenship, and a woman from India — had been spotted and recovered in addition to the six victims discovered Thursday.

The earlier victims were described as being members of two families, one of Romanian descent, another of Indian citizens. Five were adults and one was a child below the age of three — also with Canadian citizenship of Romanian descent.''

“We question why? Why is this happening? It seems to be (people) in search of something better,” said Akwesasne Grand Chief Abram Benedict.''

''Despite the risks, smuggling is a prevalent and lucrative industry in Akwesasne. It is one of the numerous things that draw outsiders to the community, in addition to the Mohawk casino, the cheap cigarette stores or the marijuana dispensaries that line the Canada and U.S. sides of the territory.''
 
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''Police in Akwesasne, along with coast guard helicopters and dive teams were scouring the shores of the St. Lawrence River for a missing child Friday morning after finding six bodies in a marsh in Snye, Akwesasne in Quebec the previous evening.

Police said they believed the six people died while attempting to enter the U.S. from Canada. The six people — five adults and one child under three — were from two families, one Indian and one Romanian.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Deputy Chief Lee-Ann O’Brien said they determined there was another child missing by finding the child’s passport on the body of one of the Romanian adults. Both children were Canadian citizens, she said. She said all six of the deceased were Canadian residents, though she would not comment on how long they had been in Canada.


O’Brien said the incident had nothing to do with the recent closure of the Roxham Road, formerly a frequent crossing for people seeking asylum in Canada, until a new border deal was reached between Canada and the U.S. last week. The deceased travellers, she said, were moving in the opposite direction, from Canada to the States.''

They were in Canada long enough to have a 3 year old born here.
 
''AKWESASNE, QUEBEC Police in the Mohawk Territory of Akwesasne say they have found the bodies of two more people, including an infant, who were among a group of migrants who died trying to cross into the United States.

Authorities had found the bodies of five adults and one child on Thursday, members of two families of Romanian and Indian descent.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Chief Shawn Dulude said authorities are still looking for 30-year-old Casey Oakes, who was last seen Wednesday operating a boat that was found next to the bodies of the migrants.


Josie Swamp watched as a helicopter hovered low above the trees on an island directly in front of her longtime residence Friday.''

“I really don’t know what he was doing out there,” she said of Oakes, who is believed to have been piloting a boat that capsized. “It was a bad night, there was a storm going through and it was really bad. It must have been real rough.”

''Akwesasne Mohawk Police Deputy Chief Lee-Ann O’Brien said they determined there was another child missing by finding the child’s passport on the body of one of the Romanian adults. Both children were Canadian citizens, she said.''

I'm sure someone knew what Oakes was doing. When I worked for the OPP, Akwesasne was one of the reserves that was involved in many kinds of smuggling, whether it was drugs, guns or cigarettes. Akwesasne is unusual in that it encompasses two provinces, Ontario and Quebec, as well as a portion of New York state, a perfect location for illegal activities.
 
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''The Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service is continuing to seek the public’s assistance in locating a missing person from Akwesasne.
Casey Oakes, age 30, was reported missing on Thursday, March 30, 2023. He was last seen Wednesday, March 29, 2023, at approximately 9:30 p.m., boarding a small, light blue coloured vessel departing from the East end of Cornwall Island.
Wearing a black vest, snow pants, black face mask, and a black toque.
A search of the local waterways commenced on Thursday, March 30, 2023. Police located 6 bodies at approximately 5:00 p.m. in a marsh area in Tsi Snaihne (Snye) Akwesasne, Quebec.

A vessel matching the description as being operated by Casey Oakes was located near the location of the deceased persons. It was removed by police and placed in secure storage for further processing.
The Akwesasne Mohawk Police Marine Unit commenced the search of the area this morning with assistance from the Sûreté du Quebec and the Hogansburg Akwesasne Volunteer Fire Department. Divers will also be in the area. We request the public and the media to please stay away from the search area.
Anyone who knows the whereabouts of Casey Oakes or sees a person matching this description is asked to contact the Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service at (613) 575-2000. ''

“It was a very small vessel, nothing fancy,” O’Brien said.
Police say they have intercepted 80 people trying to cross illegally into Canada or into the United States through the Mohawk territory since January.''

O’Brien, however, said it was too soon to know whether the deaths can be linked to a smuggling network operating in the area.
She also stressed there is no reason to believe the deaths are a result of the recent closing of the Roxham Rd. irregular crossing.

“This has nothing to do with that closure,” O’Brien said. “That closure was people seeking refuge leaving the U.S. for Canada, these people were believed to be gaining entry into the U.S.”

“It’s been happening forever,” she said. Last year, photos shared in the community showed five people in a sinking boat. The people made it to shore, Lazore said, but probably only because the water was shallow.

“It needs to stop, or calm down or something,” Lazore said. “It’s pretty upsetting to know a baby passed, and a little child.”

In February, the Akwesasne police had issued a warning about a recent increase in “illegal entries through our lands and waterways.”

In a statement at the time, the police force reminded the community smuggling is a crime and spoke of migrants recently needing to be transported to hospital.''
 
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Do people in Romania and India really have lives so terrible there that they have to 'escape',' first to Canada and then the US? speculation, imo.

''AKWESASNE, QUEBEC The deaths of eight migrants in the frigid waters of the St. Lawrence River this week were preceded by cries for help that went unanswered before the voices went silent.

Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service Chief Shawn Dulude made the awful revelation in announcing Friday afternoon that two lifeless bodies — a child of Romanian origin with Canadian citizenship, and a woman from India — had been spotted and recovered in addition to the six victims discovered Thursday.

The earlier victims were described as being members of two families, one of Romanian descent, another of Indian citizens. Five were adults and one was a child below the age of three — also with Canadian citizenship of Romanian descent.''

“We question why? Why is this happening? It seems to be (people) in search of something better,” said Akwesasne Grand Chief Abram Benedict.''

''Despite the risks, smuggling is a prevalent and lucrative industry in Akwesasne. It is one of the numerous things that draw outsiders to the community, in addition to the Mohawk casino, the cheap cigarette stores or the marijuana dispensaries that line the Canada and U.S. sides of the territory.''

You know, I used to work with so many Indians. Wonderful people, they always seemed so happy and appreciative of becoming Canadian citizens. But what a lot of people don't realize, they were already fairly well off in India, to be able to come up with all the funds needed to emigrate to another country. Many of the people I worked with were already government employees making a decent wage and were fluent in the English language. They weren't the people you see riding atop a train in India, that's for sure.
 
Fwiw, reminded of this good film.
 
Since the smuggler's body has not been found with the 8 bodies and the boat, it seems possible that he survived and is in hiding. Canadian rowers all wear an inflatable life jacket. It seems like something that the boat owner would have. He could be the only person with a life jacket and none of the passengers would know because it looks like a waist belt.

Have we heard whether the deceased were wearing life jackets?
 

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Shouts were reported at 9:30 PM but a search was negative.

 
Since the smuggler's body has not been found with the 8 bodies and the boat, it seems possible that he survived and is in hiding. Canadian rowers all wear an inflatable life jacket. It seems like something that the boat owner would have. He could be the only person with a life jacket and none of the passengers would know because it looks like a waist belt.

Have we heard whether the deceased were wearing life jackets?

Because they found the bodies so quickly, I expect everyone was wearing a life jacket. I wonder if the smuggler was not.

What a sad tragedy. The First Nations people have lit a sacred fire to honour the dead.
 
Press conference
Shouts were reported at 9:30 PM but a search was negative.

It's short-sighted and foolish to enter countries illegally. The people who drowned were living in a safe country that goes the extra mile to assist new immigrants with adjusting to Canadian life and building a future in the country. They should have used legal options to enter the USA, or remained in Canada. They also had the option of returning to their native countries.

I hope they didn't think that because it was so easy to establish a new life in Canada, they should go to the USA and claim refugee or some other sort of status there too. Perhaps they were thinking along the lines of an anchor baby in each country?

I know a woman who fled Iran to the USA, where she claimed refugee status and was granted citizenship. She then did the same thing in Canada. Her daughter has dual citizenship USA/Canada and currently works and lives in New York.

If they had relatives in the USA, they wouldn't be the first family to live in one country while extended family lives in another country. It's quite common and manageable.
 
Because they found the bodies so quickly, I expect everyone was wearing a life jacket. I wonder if the smuggler was not.

What a sad tragedy. The First Nations people have lit a sacred fire to honour the dead.
Life jackets could be the reason that they floated to the marshes. That would suggest that hypothermia was the main issue.
 
Since the smuggler's body has not been found with the 8 bodies and the boat, it seems possible that he survived and is in hiding. Canadian rowers all wear an inflatable life jacket. It seems like something that the boat owner would have. He could be the only person with a life jacket and none of the passengers would know because it looks like a waist belt.

Have we heard whether the deceased were wearing life jackets?

I don't think all rowers wear life jackets. As a matter of fact, I find where I live near Rama Reserve, some of the needless deaths that happen in the spring are native teens perishing walking on the lake ice back to the reserve from downtown Orillia because they've always done it. Same with snowmobilers although I've seen less of them in the last couple of years. A lot of the snowmobile deaths in Ontario are in the north where many reservations are.
It's short-sighted and foolish to enter countries illegally. The people who drowned were living in a safe country that goes the extra mile to assist new immigrants with adjusting to Canadian life and building a future in the country. They should have used legal options to enter the USA, or remained in Canada. They also had the option of returning to their native countries.

I hope they didn't think that because it was so easy to establish a new life in Canada, they should go to the USA and claim refugee or some other sort of status there too. Perhaps they were thinking along the lines of an anchor baby in each country?

I know a woman who fled Iran to the USA, where she claimed refugee status and was granted citizenship. She then did the same thing in Canada. Her daughter has dual citizenship USA/Canada and currently works and lives in New York.

If they had relatives in the USA, they wouldn't be the first family to live in one country while extended family lives in another country. It's quite common and manageable.

I doubt they could claim refugee status considering the Safe Third Country Agreement. If you've already been given refugee status in one country you can't shop around again and try it with another.

 

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