Ausgirl QUOTE [Aberline, I spat my coffee @ Kenny Rogers.
Fence Sitter, it's basically someone employed by the Govt, a taxpayer-funded job.
AQ - what I meant was, how would you account for some of these math sums not adding to a number that you think is "significant" for the proposed pattern followed by Mark Dixie? Do you include in your posts only those 'equations' which DO add up to significant numbers? What is your approach to sums that don't fit the Dixie pattern?
You said police have been provided with information on a pattern used by Dennis Ferguson - did you provide that information? Do you think a lot of serial killers use numbers in this way?
Sounds like John Douglas, or Robert Ressler.[/QUOTE]
Hey Ausgirl you wrote "You said police have been provided with information on a pattern used by Dennis Ferguson - did you provide that information? Do you think a lot of serial killers use numbers in this way?" and What is your approach to sums that don't fit the Dixie pattern?
Re Ferguson, I didn't indicate that at all so you may have misread what I had detailed. John Douglas and Mark Olshaker 'Journey into Darkness' is the book I referred to. There are 3 sub patterns that combine with the Dixie pattern that put it all together. All of the equations are significant. I don't refer to these equations as 'maths sums' because I don't see them as that. However, they are days between significant occurrences. He's committed an offence on a particular date eg Jane's day 9 June is day 161. 161 - 366 = 205 which is what I call the balance day. The balance day is then used to determine a further occurrence day. It goes like clockwork and what is significant in this pattern, is he doesn't appear to have formed his pattern so that these balance days are used in a particular year. It appears to me that he is mission orientated and he doesn't break his strategy.
An example is the spanish rape cases. I have previously incorrectly detailed that he must have left Australia after the 1st abduction in Tasmania and ending up in Spain because I found a newspaper article that detailed he had performed the 3 x rapes in 1993. I have now found his performed those 3 x rapes in 2003. The date of the 3 x rapes is 10 August 2003 which happens to be day 222 the balance days is 222 - 365 = 143. He sexually assaulted a woman in Claremont on day 143 in 1996. This pattern shows this continually, like clockwork. He adjusts his pattern when it is a leap year to take into account the extra day.
If he was still at large and you knew how he formulated his pattern, you could predetermine his next strike day. Given his reliance on numbers and puzzles and his repetitive use of these it, leans me to consider he may suffer from one of the (complex) autism syndromes. He not only used previous victim abduction days and the relevant balance day, he has also used victim discovery day and its' balance day. Here's an example. Jane and graylands man. 161 - 366 = 205 + 142 (22/5/97) graylands man abduction) = 347. Jane discovered 3/8/1996 = day 216. 216 - 366 = 150. 150 + 142 (22/5/1997 graylands man) = 292. 292 - 365 = 73 = Ciara's day 14/3/97. Here's proof he used the girl's (and boys) birthdays in calculations and that is why Sarah, Jane, Ciara and graylands man were taken in the order of their birthdays. BUT graylands man's birthday is before Ciara's and he was abducted after Ciara and that is significant.
Jane's discovery day 216 from her birthday 286 = 70. 70 + 148* = 218 - 365 = 147. As I mentioned previously the miscarriage of his 1st child occurred on 26/5/1988 a leap year so was day 147.
Another example of the Jane and graylands man birthdays in play. Given there are 347 days between these 2 abduction days. Jane's birthday 347 - 286 = 61 - 302 (graylands man's birthday in leap year) = 241. Back to Jane's data. birthday 286 - 366 = 241 + 160 = 241. 241 - 302 = 61 so there we go back to the 1st part above 347 - 286 = 61.
With Dixie and Sarah Spiers birthdays. Dixie birthday in 1995 = 267 365 = 98. 98 + 27 (Sarahs abduction day) = 125 366 = 241 or simply as 27 268 = 241! Sarahs birthday 1995 = 255 365 = 110. 110 + 27 = 137 268 = 131 366 = 235 360 = 125.
If you havent seen enough proof of birthdays being used in the equation ...Janes vs Dixies in 1995. 267 285 = 18 365 = 347.
Of alternatively because this throws up a surprise. 267 365 = 98. 98 286 = 188 325 (Ciara Glennon in leap year) = 137 27 (Sarah Spiers day) = 110 365 = 255 her birthday. Is this proof he met these girls beforehand? I believe it is.
It is interesting (to me) that the graylands man's final location where he was discovered is at 19 degrees to the abduction point of Ciara on Stirling Highway. 19 - 366 = 347. BUT if we take 19 - 360 = 341. 341 - 366 = 25 which I believe is the initial meet date for Sarah Spiers as she had been at Club Bayview on the night of the 25 January (the night before she attended the club on the 26 and her abduction on the 27th). On the 25th she had left Club Bayview after midnight so that would make it in the very early AM of the 26th (not to be confused with the very late PM early AM of the 27th which was the abduction time).
26 + 147 = 173 (in leap year) which became day 172 day of the rape of the Thai student in Leederville in 1998 which had occurred on the anniversary date of the sexual attack on a woman on 21/6/1988 in the UK. This woman was a Jehovah Witness community worker who was assisting Dixie's then girlfriend overcome her grief after the miscarriage of their baby on 26/5/1988.
Makes me wonder if the pretty rough sex she and other girls had described in court had anything to do with this miscarriage and Dixie has, in his own twisted drug and alcohol crazed mind blamed her (and females in general) for the miscarriage? He was on the way to becoming totally off the rail at this time and after this date he succeeded in going totally off the rails.
* 148. An explanation re graylands man. He was actually discovered at his final location on day 147 however the woman who initially discovered him whilst out walking her dog, thought he was asleep (mind you he was laying under a tree, placed in a posed position with a noose around his neck fashioned from a shoe lace) and did not report it. Later on the same day she even mentioned her 'discovery' to her husband, an ex policeman who worked at graylands, and he did nothing. The graylands man had prior to his abduction or disappearance, been a strict security patient at the Graylands hospital and the discovery location was on the outside perimeter of their secure fence. The body was subsequently discovered the following day by the hospitals security guard and officially reported as being discovered on this day which was day 148. So this killer dumped this man's body in an open publicly accessible space because he wanted (and needed) the body to be discovered on a particular day to fit his pattern, and that day was day 147 a significant day to him wasn't it - the anniversary date of the miscarriage of his 1st child in 1988.
147 and the balance number 218 or 219 (in a leap year) is a background pattern number used continuously in one of the sub-patterns.
Ive just been re-examining the degrees between the OBH and the Claremont precinct. From the OBH to the building behind the printers which was at 347 stirling highway and opposite to the location where Ciara was abducted on 15/3 which is day 74 it is 74 degrees. 74 360 = 286 which is Janes birthday. And from the OBH to Janes abduction point it is 70.5 degrees. 70.5 + 180 to reverse to read from Jane to OBH = 250.5 360 = 109.5 366 = 256.5. Sarahs birthday was day 256 in 1996.
Degrees ex Ciara abduction point to OBH is 255 which is Sarahs birthday in non leap year.
OBH to Jane's site is 162 degrees. 162 Sarahs initial meet night 25/1 (as described above) = 137 (her birthday 1995 is 255 365 =110 + abduction day 27 = 137). Heres something Ive just picked up on if you use the 25th January. Dixie balance day from 1995 birthday 98 + 25 = 123. Is this his huge hint that it is all about numbers....123 look at me? This has blown my mind. 123 366 = 243 27 = 216 Janes discovery date!!! 123 216 = 93 which is Ciaras discovery date!!! If that isn't deliberate I don't know what it is. I think with further analysis it might just show a date that each of the girls were murdered on.
162 347 = 222 the Spanish 3 x rapes date. 162 + 180 = 342 360 = 18 365 = 347. 162 285 (birthday 1995) = 123.
Ausgirl re What is your approach to sums that don't fit the Dixie pattern? All I can say really is that the pattern goes like clockwork all the way through to the time he got deported and then the pattern changed slightly, but there is still a very close pattern. I have tested the pattern by using random birthdates and it doesnt work. We have the 2 discovered girls to really hone in on and we have the abduction and sexual assault dates with which to work with and the further abduction and murder victims. All of those dates fit the pattern. If you remove any of them the pattern fails. This to me shows the pattern is the pattern. I will post an ordered list of dates and occurrences so everyone can see the victims in the pattern and I can tell you that the Claremont girls are not his only victims. Could well be the perpetrator/s of the crimes after April 1999 have their own very similar pattern or there was a copycat in operation but I think it likely that after his deportation he may have done a u-turn back to Western Australia for another few weeks. If he did do the u-turn he came back into Australia through either Broome or Darwin cunning as a fox. This proposition fits with his work and girlfriend and residential history in the UK after these extra weeks. It would have to be a million (or higher) chance that another perpetrator or perpetrators would have such a pattern.
And Ive just discovered something else that has fractured my mind completely and I am still working through this newly discovered data. This data is showing a hidden pattern which might just link to his offsider and the location the girls had been taken to and this has really shaken me!
Ausgirl. Your question to me about other serial killers using numbers in this way. Well why not? It would be their own dirty little secret wouldn't it. When I have time I will give you some information (directly) if you like on what may well be the Percy pattern and that involved the number 247 with interesting degree links to a residence. Who knows, these guys may not realize that they have a pattern. Some scientists believe their brains are wired differently so who knows what these brains are capable of? Geographical profilers try to pinpoint patterns don't they and when you look at some of the conclusions they come up with it makes you wonder, well it does me.
I would not be offended at all if anyone wants to poke holes in anything that I post because if you can see if in your opinion my data has flaws or weaknesses please discuss.