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Oh my, just read that. Thank you.
The last paragraph of it especially.
All I can think is poor KB.
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Oh my, just read that. Thank you.
I think it is to make the child custody case stronger.Yes. Honestly, these kinds of maneuvers make me question just how strong of a case law enforcement has.
I missed that "emotional acts of violence". That does seem to indicate a pattern of psychological abuse."The couple is also suing for negligence, alleging “Frazee enacted physical, mental, and emotional acts of violence upon Kelsey Berreth prior to her death, Frazee breached the duty of care with which a reasonable person should conduct himself toward another human being.”
Berreth’s parents file wrongful death suit against fiancé
Could it be that there was a history of psychological abuse?
Classy bada$$es. Love it.Really like how hard her family is hitting him - first with custody, then with wrongful death. Clearly her family is not to be messed with.
I have PACER... if I can post, let me know and I will pull the documents
Documents are there... I'll post the docket for now until I know if I can post the documents
Date Filed # Docket Text
01/04/2019 1 COMPLAINT AND JURY DEMAND against Patrick M Frazee (Filing fee $ 400,Receipt Number 1082-6466586)Attorney Perry Ray Sanders, Jr added to party Cheryl-Lee Ellen Berreth(ptyla), Attorney Perry Ray Sanders, Jr added to party Darrell Lynn Berreth(ptyla), filed by Cheryl-Lee Ellen Berreth, Darrell Lynn Berreth. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet, # 2 Summons)(Sanders, Perry) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
01/04/2019 2 Case assigned to Judge Philip A. Brimmer and drawn to Magistrate Judge Kathleen M. Tafoya. Text Only Entry. (rroge, ) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
01/04/2019 3 SUMMONS issued by Clerk. (Attachments: # 1 Magistrate Judge Consent Form) (rroge, ) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
Please message @Tricia and/or @Harmony 2 to ask if you can post it.
My thoughts exactly. These parents may be heartbroken but they do not intend to take any chances of PF getting away with the murder of their daughter. I agree, they are seeking witnesses - and more proof with these actions - they are effectively tightening the noose around PF’s throat.
Really really shaking my head on this comment. What the heck had been going on prior to her death? Her MURDER. This is a tangled web of a case that continues to descend downward constantly. I'm afraid to hear the reason behind this statement. Sigh...If so, this may explain: (from PommyMommy's recent post):
"The couple is also suing for negligence, alleging “Frazee enacted physical, mental, and emotional acts of violence upon Kelsey Berreth prior to her death, Frazee breached the duty of care with which a reasonable person should conduct himself toward another human being.”
I missed that "emotional acts of violence". That does seem to indicate a pattern of psychological abuse.
I wasn't really surprised at the behavior during the early days because CB's daughter was missing and PF was acting like a petulant child. But I wonder how friendly they were before all this happened. It is odd that we've never seen a pic of all of them together. Not that one doesn't exist, but it is odd.Really?
Did anyone notice PF seemed to be taunting CB, prior to his arrest, when he was photographed out with the baby?
That’s how I saw it. I wondered then, do they even “like” each other?
Again, imo, (which I am entitled to), I didn’t “feel the luv” when she spoke of him.
JMO
I think it could refer to minutes. Similar to Travis Alexander, when he was facing the mirror as his killer was stabbing him. I'm thinking something like that. I don't think I want to know anymore. This just keeps getting worse! Imo"prior to her death"??? How long prior to her death?
Yes... this! Applying pressure... they will not go silently into the night and grieve ... they will fight and bring down the monster - by legal means. Moo.Could the purpose of the wrongful death case be to bring forth information more quickly that could potentially aid in the Barreth's custody case? Does a civil suit progress more quickly through the courts than the criminal trial?
I wasn't really surprised at the behavior during the early days because CB's daughter was missing and PF was acting like a petulant child. But I wonder how friendly they were before all this happened. It is odd that we've never seen a pic of all of them together. Not that one doesn't exist, but it is odd.
@Mercedes do you know if there is any way in which a civil suit could compel any otherwise unknown evidence relating to the criminal case to come out? Say if something was not allowed in a criminal trial but was allowed in a civil case for example... could that be a strategy?Just an idea here. Perhaps the B’s are filing suit on behalf of little K while they have temp custody because if PF walks, he won’t sue himself, and if the F’s get custody of little K, they won’t file suit against their son, PF.
I also searched and couldn't find that "enacted physical, mental, and emotional acts of violence prior to her death" was standard language.I don't think it's standard language. I looked up several wrongful death lawsuits and they are were written differently and specific to the case.
Agreed.That last paragraph is disturbing.
I wonder what evidence they have, to make such a statement.
This is horrid.
MOO.
I have PACER... if I can post, let me know and I will pull the documents
Documents are there... I'll post the docket for now until I know if I can post the documents
Date Filed # Docket Text
01/04/2019 1 COMPLAINT AND JURY DEMAND against Patrick M Frazee (Filing fee $ 400,Receipt Number 1082-6466586)Attorney Perry Ray Sanders, Jr added to party Cheryl-Lee Ellen Berreth(ptyla), Attorney Perry Ray Sanders, Jr added to party Darrell Lynn Berreth(ptyla), filed by Cheryl-Lee Ellen Berreth, Darrell Lynn Berreth. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet, # 2 Summons)(Sanders, Perry) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
01/04/2019 2 Case assigned to Judge Philip A. Brimmer and drawn to Magistrate Judge Kathleen M. Tafoya. Text Only Entry. (rroge, ) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
01/04/2019 3 SUMMONS issued by Clerk. (Attachments: # 1 Magistrate Judge Consent Form) (rroge, ) (Entered: 01/04/2019)
Yes, that's what it looks like. IDK the rules on that-- it was said for the records from the Cocourts website we couldn't post because of the paywall, but that is not an official gov website. On other cases in the past if a long time member paid for court records (like through an FOIA request) a PDF link with a WS watermark was allowed (pre-approved by Tricia). If anyone has PACER access they should probably message Tricia to ask if the records can be posted. Hopefully a media source will just post the docs though. JMO.
Please message @Tricia and/or @Harmony 2 to ask if you can post it.
I've asked as well, so we have all the bases covered.I alerted them on the post, so hopefully they chime in soon. Definitely some interesting wording in the documents, but nothing very specific
Um isn’t that dog a border collie? Not that it means anything, but I noticed it.KMVT has added a video to their story with a 3rd picture of IN posing with a dog. She's wearing a plaid shirt, a cowboy hat with a tiara and a pageant type sash: Family friend names Twin Falls County woman investigated in connection to missing Colorado woman