cmiller8617
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And a working dog isn't a pet.Dogs aren't livestock.
Unless she told someone before she went missing.
I probably should not admit this but don't even know HOW to delete my texts, lol.
My brothers and husband know my password.My password is not something random people would guess, but my family would do it easily. Same might have been the case for KB. Not necessarily an easy password, but something used at other sites as well. Or maybe, there was none?
Every time I think of complex pre-planing like this that a perp might have used to be evasive, it turns out to be far more simple. (I thought Tad C. might have been more planned than he was, for example. Despite the pre-planning, he still was just basically winging it and holed away in a cabin they randomly came across.)I wonder if someone who may have figured out a way to get her phone to Idaho to ping, would also think to use the phone to show “internet activity” between 11/22-11/25. Because “someone” certainly had some time to think of a lot of calculated moves. I hope not. LE needs all the evidence they can get. MOO
I just feel that it wouldn’t be difficult for even a stranger to know who to text. If they had her phone, they would see her recent calls and texts and know immediately who to message.
I just checked my texts. My first 5 are from my dad, my mom, my brother, T-Mobile auto text, my husband. All of the contacts are labeled as such too.
Not criticizing the dog herding trade. It's the way the dogs are handled,and treated,and even other dog trainers taking notice. Combined with other reports of his way with animals.bbm- And why do we keep cows herded? So we can eat them! Let's keep that in mind when criticizing the dog herding trade.
Yes you're right. If she sounded normal and indicated she was going to dinner with him that contradicts a possible break up. Unless she was emrbassed to tell her mom? She has a religious family and had a kid before marriage but at least could reassure them she's getting married to the dad. Maybe embarrassment would prevent her from telling mom right away?
But yeah. You make sense. It would seem odd for her to tell someone about a break up but lie in such detail to her mom.
Do we know that her employer offered life insurance to their workers? Or that she worked enough hours to be eligible if so? I haven't heard anything one way or the other...She definitely would have had life insurance through work at minimum, and if the child was listed as the beneficiary and he was the guardian then he would have access to that money. It is unusual for someone else to be put as the trustee because it creates problems unless you don't trust the guardian. Who is going to say that if they want access to their grandchild?
I do not question that Kelsey's Aunt posted what she believed to be the truth. But she subsequently deleted her posts, allegedly at the request of her sister and Kelsey's mom, CB. We do not know why she did that. Was it because:Thank you. She is also a verified insider. I don't know why this is still debated. This and you add in the appearance of a not so lovey relationship.
Every time I think of complex pre-planing like this that a perp might have used to be evasive, it turns out to be far more simple. (I thought Tad C. might have been more planned than he was, for example. Despite the pre-planning, he still was just basically winging it and holed away in a cabin they randomly came across.)
Good job! So, is this parking area shared by two units?
MOO
New guy here... lurked a lot during the Tibbetts case as well as Watts, which was close to home along with this one.
I wanted to share some thoughts about the phone sending messages on 11/25. I apologize if this has been brought up already. Most smartphones have a very limited battery life, so whoever was in possession of the phone on 11/25 would have had to have it powered off to make it from 11/22 to 11/25 or they would have had to be in possession of a charger that matches her phone. Really, there are 3 types for most smart phones these days... Apple, USB-C, or micro USB. That leads me to ask, where is KB's phone charger? Of course, we don't know the answer to this. If she was the one to send the messages, then surely she would have to have her charger with her. If she did not, then the phone was likely shut off or someone had in their possession or had to procure a matching charger that would keep it going for 3 days. We've heard that the phone pinged in Idaho. Many have wondered if it was pinging along the way. I know my phone wouldn't make it very long searching for signal going from CO to ID over 3 days unless it was plugged in. I'm thinking it was turned on in the location after being off. I wonder what kind of phone KB has as well as PF. Both Apple? Both Android?
The other thing I wanted to mention was that PF in one of his dog videos, which are several years old, said he had to borrow a smart phone to make the video because he didn't have one. Some have wondered how tech savvy he is. How many of you didn't have a smart phone 4.5 years ago? Just throwing it out there. Not saying anything about his intelligence, but besides PF, my wife is the only person I know who didn't have a smartphone 4.5 years ago.
I am not among those who think it's 100% him. Hovering at about 80 him/19 another perp/1 self motivated. But if he was the one who provided the reward, that would NOT change my opinion whatsoever. Because if he was somehow involved (hypothetically) and knows there is no one who could claim the reward, he could offer a million dollars if he wanted...bc he would know it can't be claimed. MOO.
I noticed that comment from PF in the dog video as well and was going to go back and watch it again to make sure I heard it correct. He did say something about borrowing this phone "because mine wont do this." or something to that effect. Which led me to wonder perhaps he doesn't have a smart phone. I didn't see how old that video is either.New guy here... lurked a lot during the Tibbetts case as well as Watts, which was close to home along with this one.
I wanted to share some thoughts about the phone sending messages on 11/25. I apologize if this has been brought up already. Most smartphones have a very limited battery life, so whoever was in possession of the phone on 11/25 would have had to have it powered off to make it from 11/22 to 11/25 or they would have had to be in possession of a charger that matches her phone. Really, there are 3 types for most smart phones these days... Apple, USB-C, or micro USB. That leads me to ask, where is KB's phone charger? Of course, we don't know the answer to this. If she was the one to send the messages, then surely she would have to have her charger with her. If she did not, then the phone was likely shut off or someone had in their possession or had to procure a matching charger that would keep it going for 3 days. We've heard that the phone pinged in Idaho. Many have wondered if it was pinging along the way. I know my phone wouldn't make it very long searching for signal going from CO to ID over 3 days unless it was plugged in. I'm thinking it was turned on in the location after being off. I wonder what kind of phone KB has as well as PF. Both Apple? Both Android?
The other thing I wanted to mention was that PF in one of his dog videos, which are several years old, said he had to borrow a smart phone to make the video because he didn't have one. Some have wondered how tech savvy he is. How many of you didn't have a smart phone 4.5 years ago? Just throwing it out there. Not saying anything about his intelligence, but besides PF, my wife is the only person I know who didn't have a smartphone 4.5 years ago.