Evidence revealed during the course of the Wrongful Death action

Discussion in 'Rebecca Zahau Nalepa' started by *Lash*, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    How do you know "Rebecca slept in the nude"? What's the link to this *alleged fact*?

    And now you want us to believe that Rebecca not only "slept in the nude" but that Rebecca was going around town all day long without underwear the entire Tuesday morning till Wednesday when she was found dead? Really?! Because even if we take Ann Rule's account that there was "neatly" stacked clothes on a bed which you are assuming were the clothes Rebecca wore that entire Tues while running & shuffling people about to hospitals, airports and restaurants, etc. to be true, WHERE are her underwear? Those items are not listed in Ann Rule's book or the Gore webpage about the case either.

    So you're alleging she not only slept in the nude, but regularly went out and about without any underwear (bra OR panty) on a regular basis throughout her entire life? Or are you implying she only happened to do so that one Tues through Wed morning? And by the way, you know this -- HOW??
     
  2. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Unless someone was shoving Rebecca back and forth a gazillion times aggressively and violently while she was dangling and hanging by a noose, no way no how would she have impacted the plants so much that her back was scratched a gazillion times! Gravity and nature alone would not have her swinging more than I'd say 3-4 times -- this is easily calculated by physics majors which the investigators could have employed.

    Also, where are the scratches to her arms since they were alleged to have been tied behind her back while she was hanging? Why are the numerous abrasions *underneath* her arms, and *not* on her arms instead? Strange, huh? Seems to me she got those abrasions BEFORE her hands were tied behind her back!

    Here's an experiment. Simulate the alleged crime scene. Throw something about 100 lbs over a balcony railing of that height. And put a cactus tree there underneath. Then see how many times it swings onto the tree and how many scratches it gets. Bet you there'll be very slight if any scratches at all!
     
  3. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Sadly, it appears to all have been pure guesswork on part of the Gore investigators in the Zahau case. Looks like they simply repeated what Adam said and went with it. "Got a girl. Hung herself. The end. Let's just wrap it up."

    Ironically and sadly, I can totally see the police saying, "See the abrasions on the girl's back? Well, I see a tree there where that guy said he found her hanging. We didn't actually see her hanging. But hey, that guy who called 911 said she was, so let's run with it. Why waste resources and our time and effort? The rich dude's brother says she hung herself. And he has a high priced lawyer, you know, Pfingst, our buddy was here on the guy's behalf. Let's not get sued. So that must be how it all went down...Oh, there appears to be some thorns on that tree right underneath where the guy said she was hanging. Maybe she was swinging and hit the tree? Yeah, that's it. Let's just wrap it up and say she got those them abrasions on her back from the tree with the thorns. What do you call that tree? Ok. Great. Cactus tree. Sounds good. Let's wrap it up and call it suicide. Case closed."

    Conclusion? This so-called investigation into the "violent, suspicious death" of Rebecca was stinking bogus.
     
  4. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    This is why I believe Rebecca was ambushed and attacked in the shower.
     
  5. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Unfortunately this *is* the reality. The wheels of justice spins faster and more fairly for those in the upper echelon in society. For the rest with little to no financial or political power, it's as if they don't really exist -- unless you have Al Sharpton on their side.
     
  6. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    I completely agree with you. Ann Rule only said the clothes were "labeled" as "blue jeans...undershirt...top", and she said nothing about these clothes being the clothes Rebecca wore that Tuesday. So we're back to square one. Where exactly were the clothes Rebecca was wearing that day? What happened to them?? If she was assaulted while wearing them, where are they now?
     
  7. LuckyLucy2

    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    Have you seen the investigative files? You must have, because that is the only way you would know if they ckecked the thorn tree for blood. How did you get a copy? Can you link them here? TIA
     
  8. LuckyLucy2

    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    Yes, Rebecca slept in the nude:

    While it’s unusual for a woman to commit suicide while naked and out in the open, sources said Zahau slept in the nude.

    Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...a-Suicide-Source-128124368.html#ixzz3LWKFEj29

    And YES, it is possible she was also in the habit of not wearing underwear or a bra. Some women DON'T.
     
  9. LuckyLucy2

    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    So you don't believe the Zahaus allegations then?
     
  10. LuckyLucy2

    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    How do you know these weren't the clothes Rebecca wore that day? Link please.
     
  11. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Nobody has to prove a NEGATIVE. That's impossible. E.g., can you prove there is no God? You can't, can you?

    YOU have to prove a positive.
     
  12. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    I believe in their WDS case. And that's all you need to know.
     
  13. LuckyLucy2

    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    Totally ridiculous arguement. How do you or the Zahaus know those weren't the clothes she wore that day? The Zahaus will certaily have to prove those weren't her clothes in court. If they can.
     
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    LuckyLucy2 Former Member

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    So you believe in their WDS case, but you disagree with their very detailed allegations. Got it.
     
  15. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    The bickering and back and forth is getting old, guys. Knock it off.

    This is about the trial. Discuss what is happening in the COURT or move on to another case.

    Salem
     
  16. MaybeNotToday

    MaybeNotToday New Member

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    Do the Zahaus know what she was wearing that day to know they are "missing"? The clothes Ann Rule described were small and women's don't forget those little details.

    And if she was ambushed in the shower as you speculate, then why are "missing" clothes an issue?
     
  17. justice be served

    justice be served Active Member

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    It would be good, solid police work to question all individuals that last saw what Rebecca wore, collect that clothing and test it for DNA. This would be a basic investigatory technique in what the investigators themselves described as a violent death. What comes of that testing would then be added to the entire picture of deciding what really happened.
     
  18. Morag

    Morag Well-Known Member

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    If those are indeed the clothes Rebecca wore, it is possible that her younger sister could identify them as such. If not, then surely testing would show the sister's DNA to be on the shirt at least.

    Because they would certainly have hugged goodbye at the airport. If those clothes don't have XZ's DNA on them, then the clothes Rebecca wore on the last day of her life are missing...

    (And the clothes from the previous day would have Nina's DNA on them, because Rebecca hugged Nina at the airport when she picked her up.)
     
  19. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    So what? So no panties either? Just because some anonymous 'source' on a news story states something doesn't make it proof. Perhaps this 'source' was Dina herself who claimed to know Rebecca well. What then? You believe every single 'source' quoted in news stories without question? Really? There's a comment from a local underneath the news story you cite. This commentator states that "sources said Rebecca was FAR TOO MODEST to sleep in the nude" and that that statement in the story was distorted and altered to say she did. Who to believe? Both unnamed, anonymous sources. I'd say believe neither. Unless we have *direct physical evidence* I'm going to say we have NO IDEA whether or not Rebecca slept in the nude.

    Note however, NO SOURCE, unnamed or otherwise, ever stated that Rebecca ran about without a bra and panty DURING THE DAY. So I'm going to opine objectively that she wore undies during the day.
     
  20. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Excellent analysis! Maybe the police can still test the unidentified "clothes" that Ann Rule wrote about in her storybook.
     

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