FRANCE - Two hostage takers kill priest in church of Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, July 2016 *arrests*

http://anglicanmainstream.org/archb...democratic-principles-are-worth-nothing-here/

Archbishop of Mosul, in 2014:

“Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future,” says Amel Nona, 47, Chaldean archbishop of Mosul exiled in Erbil. The message is unequivocal: the only way to end the Christian exodus from the places that witnessed its origins in the pre-Islamic age is to respond to violence with violence, to force with force. Nona is a wounded, pain-stricken man, but not resigned. “I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive.”

He is very glad to meet Western media. “Please, try to understand us,” he exclaims. “Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal,” Archbishop Amel Nona continues, “but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.”


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http://www.itele.fr/france/video/sa...tente-de-partir-en-syrie-en-2015-itele-169410

One suspect allegedly tried to leave for Syria in 2015

One of them tried to leave for Syria in 2015, according to our information. This young man from Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray was apprehended in Turkey in May 2015 before being sent back and jailed in France.He spent nearly a year in prison before being released on March 2. He was placed under surveillance with an electronic bracelet, and he had returned to live with his parents.

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Reuters World
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UPDATE: Hollande says two assailants in church attack claimed allegience to Islamic State


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Priest, 86, is 'beheaded' by two 'Islamic knifemen' after taking nuns and worshippers hostage at French church before police shoot them both dead and search building for explosives

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rmed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html

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The two attackers have been 'neutralised' by elite marksmen in a dramatic police operation while the building is being searched for possible explosives. French president Francois Hollande said the men claimed to be from' ISIS.
 
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BREAKING: #ISIS claims Normandy Church attack through their news agency Amaq

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UPDATE: Hollande says two assailants in church attack claimed allegience to Islamic State


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I'm shocked.
 
French President Hollande:
Level of terror remains high, has been high for years. We are at war with Daesh. Our unity is our strength.

[video=twitter;757904585470021632]https://twitter.com/itele/status/757904585470021632[/video]
 
French President Hollande:
Level of terror remains high, has been high for years. We are at war with Daesh. Our unity is our strength.

[video=twitter;757904585470021632]https://twitter.com/itele/status/757904585470021632[/video]


purple: empty words to me.
 
I wrote about Sid Ahmed Glam here ...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...amp-wife-13-June-2016&p=12646334#post12646334


He is not involved in this attack, he is in prison. His plans failed, but they were the first clear oindicationthat churches are a goal of muslim terrorists.

All churches.


The war against all infidels is declared on a daily basis by the religion of peace.

Um, no, It is not the religion. It is extremists who twist it. Surely you have read about all of the different Muslims who denounce this? Much info on that.
 
purple: empty words to me.

Actually, I liked the speach. Hollande is no a great orator, but he does not mince his words. Au contraire. Says all of France is under attack. Reminds that Germany and other countries are also under attack. He is more realist than Merkel for instance.

Update:
I have many screens open and on one of them, I can't find which, a video is on autoplay.
Listening to the same speech of François Hollande again, and I am truly touched by the compassion in his voice. "To all the Catholics of France, I want to say...."
 
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/buitenland/1.2722740


"I fled at the time they started to attack father Jacques. I do not even know if they realized that I slipped away. "
That is told by the nun who managed to escape from the church in France where two men killed a priest.


She remains deeply shocked: this nun who took part in the mass this morning took part in the church of Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray in France, where two men took hostage those attending mass and killed an elderly priest."They arrived very abruptly", she told the French newspaper Le Figaro. "They seized the area. They spoke Arabic. I saw a knife. I fled when they began to attack father Jacques. I do not even know if they realized I ran away."
The nun is a member of a nearby monastic community, but she prefers to remain anonymous. She says she gets the necessary psychological care, but she especially hopes for more news from the other nuns who also participated in the Mass.


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Le Figaro
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-fr...de-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-pres-de-rouen.php

Priest murdered: a man taken into in custody

A man was taken into custody Tuesday as part of the investigation into the hostage taking, according to a source close to the investigation.
No details on the profile of the person have been given.

(update)

The person who is currently in custody is a minor who has connections with "AK", one of the two terrorists, according to Le Point.
AK was put under an electronic bracelet, and assigned to living with his parents in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray. He was under an indictment after being arrested in March 2015 at the Turkish border while trying to go fight in Syria.


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various sources:

Another person was severley wounded and remains fighting for his life.

Apparently, this person is an 84 year old man, who had gone to morning mass with his wife.



Words fail. Again.
 
http://news.sky.com/story/hollande-slams-vile-attack-live-updates-10512947

Sister Danielle, witness in the church:

The priest was forced to kneel by two men armed with knives before they slit his throat, according to a nun who witnessed the deadly attack

His two killers also filmed the deadly attack

Describing the murder, the nun, identified as Sister Danielle, told French TV: "They forced him to his knees. He wanted to defend himself. And that's when the tragedy happened.

"They recorded themselves. They did a sort of sermon around the altar, in Arabic. It's a horror,"

She said her dead colleague: "He was a great priest."



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FranceTVInfo

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-di...conte-soeur-daniele_1564163.html#xtor=EPR-51-[temoignage-france-2-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-quand-je-les-ai-vus-entrer-je-me-suis-dit-c-est-fini-raconte-soeur-daniele_1564163]-20160726-[bouton]

Video with Sister Danielle speaking:


"When I saw the knife in his right hand, I knew something was going to happen, the religious woman describes. They took the floor to speak in Arabic. I do not know too much of what they were saying, but they shouted 'you Christians, we will eliminate you. " While they were attacking Jacques, such cowards ..." Sister Danielle did not attend the murder of father Hamel, she managed to flee before the terrorists killed the priest. "I ran away and I stopped the first car. The driver called the police, and it all went very fast."


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http://anglicanmainstream.org/archb...democratic-principles-are-worth-nothing-here/

Archbishop of Mosul, in 2014:

“Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future,” says Amel Nona, 47, Chaldean archbishop of Mosul exiled in Erbil. The message is unequivocal: the only way to end the Christian exodus from the places that witnessed its origins in the pre-Islamic age is to respond to violence with violence, to force with force. Nona is a wounded, pain-stricken man, but not resigned. “I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive.”

He is very glad to meet Western media. “Please, try to understand us,” he exclaims. “Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal,” Archbishop Amel Nona continues, “but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.”


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The thanks button wasn't enough! :tyou:
 
One of the killers appears to have been "fiché S" for national security reasons



Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiche_"S"

'Monitoring just one suspect around the clock requires 20 agents.[2]'



I would like to add to that definition: 'or one deportation.'

People still believe that islam is a religion of peace. You are kidding yourselves. This is their doctrine- kill anyone who is not muslim. Lie when necessary to advance our cause. Cry that you are discriminated against. Allow no one to cry that we discriminate against them, that is our right. Force non-muslims to pay for peace, then do not give them the peace that they paid for. Congregate in condensed areas that are easier to take complete control of.
All of this words great for the men. The women and children live horrific and abusive lives, then the young males grow up to abuse just like they have suffered. If is a vicious cycle, it has continued for hundreds of years.
The third jihad has begun.
I know I have to say: MOO
 

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