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And his head or mouth had their DNA........I believe whoever did this, went through the trouble of putting SD in the lake because their DNA was all over her. It's the only thing that makes sense.
I believe what SS said was that Shirley had “physical infirmities.” If you read the autopsy she had had a lot of surgeries and body parts (knees, hips) redone.It was said somewhere along the way by SS that SD could no longer do the stairs, nor go to the waterfront (likely due to perhaps uneven ground, and the property's decline towards the water?).. I forget the word that SS used to describe her (suffered frailties?).. something that he said he had discovered after the fact. I'm thinking she had to have been dead before she was put on the boat.
Even if a boat had to have been used to dispose of SD's body, I believe she (and RD's head) were taken by road-vehicle, perhaps to a boat waiting somewhere(?). To me, it was way riskier to arrive by water, since virtually anyone could have happened to go by in a boat and notice the killer's boat parked there for some time, versus arriving at a heavily treed property on a dead end, with empty lots on either side, and the only neighbor two doors down apparently away in Asia.
I'm still really confused about the difference in hair color between the 'grey' which was found in both of RD's hands, versus the 'blonde' that SD had at the time, and both descriptions reported by same person at same time... but yet obviously DNA testing would have been done to confirm the hair in RD's hands belonged to SD.. it almost makes me wonder if the killer(s) took some hair from SD, perhaps from a hairbrush in a bathroom, and put it in RD's hands, to make it appear to be something different than it actually was. (ie a LOT of planning, whether long-term or at the time).
How did the killers know that the cameras were 'out' at the guard shack entrance, and that the D's security system was also not functioning?
Why were no phonecalls from the kids to police made between Thursday night and Tues evening (that is 5 full days) to do a wellness check, if the son reportedly spoke to the dad almost daily? We already know none of the kids called a neighbor to check (otherwise the neighbor *would* have checked, or at least informed police of said request, and also would've had the contact info to give to police instead of police having to track it down in the hours after RD's body was found).
ask the kids, its been told they had no lawn maintenance or maid service IIRC..........the woman could walk though, she was not in a wheel chair, she couldnt do stairs and steep inclines is what I gatheredI believe what SS said was that Shirley had “physical infirmities.” If you read the autopsy she had had a lot of surgeries and body parts (knees, hips) redone.
Which also begs the question, how was she cleaning the whole house herself? It’s two levels, right? I’ve been assuming the MBR is on the main level. Am I sexist to think that Russell prob wasn’t scrubbing the lavatories?
One of the early articles (which I can no longer find) specifically stated that Shirley’s two handbags were located on the vanity in the bedroom. Cell phone as well. I don’t recall actual mention of the wallet.Anyone have links? Refresh my memory? Shirley Dermonds Purse and keys were left behind...............
Was her wallet opened? Was her wallet in her purse? Where was her purse located in the home upon arrival of LE? Was it on kitchen island/counter? Where were the car keys? Was her purse opened?
Besides nothing DISTURBED, we know the perps DID go inside the home briefly at least, to get the towels used for the blood in garage so they DID go inside and possibly entered in kitchen door from screened porch making their way to the garage.
Nothing in the home was disturbed
This has to be quite telling. They obviously just came to kill
One of the early articles (which I can no longer find) specifically stated that Shirley’s two handbags were located on the vanity in the bedroom. Cell phone as well. I don’t recall actual mention of the wallet.Anyone have links? Refresh my memory? Shirley Dermonds Purse and keys were left behind...............
Was her wallet opened? Was her wallet in her purse? Where was her purse located in the home upon arrival of LE? Was it on kitchen island/counter? Where were the car keys? Was her purse opened?
Besides nothing DISTURBED, we know the perps DID go inside the home briefly at least, to get the towels used for the blood in garage so they DID go inside and possibly entered in kitchen door from screened porch making their way to the garage.
Nothing in the home was disturbed
This has to be quite telling. They obviously just came to kill
One of the early articles (which I can no longer find) specifically stated that Shirley’s two handbags were located on the vanity in the bedroom. Cell phone as well. I don’t recall actual mention of the wallet.Anyone have links? Refresh my memory? Shirley Dermonds Purse and keys were left behind...............
Was her wallet opened? Was her wallet in her purse? Where was her purse located in the home upon arrival of LE? Was it on kitchen island/counter? Where were the car keys? Was her purse opened?
Besides nothing DISTURBED, we know the perps DID go inside the home briefly at least, to get the towels used for the blood in garage so they DID go inside and possibly entered in kitchen door from screened porch making their way to the garage.
Nothing in the home was disturbed
This has to be quite telling. They obviously just came to kill
I think that one window was not in the garage but in the bathroom and/or laundry room that was there. If you look in the hallway from kitchen, that leads to the garage interior/exterior door, there was another door between kitchen and that one on the end which is according to the podcast a bathroom atleast, if not both, with laundry too.......and the podcast said towels were removed from he laundry room by kitchenOne of the early articles (which I can no longer find) specifically stated that Shirley’s two handbags were located on the vanity in the bedroom. Cell phone as well. I don’t recall actual mention of the wallet.
As for whether/how much the perps were in the house: I almost feel like they sneaked up on the D’s, possibly even slipping in through an unlocked slider or screened porch door. RD does not seem like the type who would be comfortable greeting people who stopped by in his boxer shorts and robe. I just get the feeling he and SD were set upon totally unawares, sometime on Saturday morning. Whatever happened in the garage was maybe to contain the mess or simply bc the garage has few windows (pix show it maybe has one set of windows on one side) and could be done discreetly.
THanks, I couldnt recall but I remember that now........so no one plundered through her wallet for cash or credit cards, that we know of except that the wallet wasnt mentioned and had it been plundered thru, it would have probalby been left open and on the floor or dresser outside of purseOne of the early articles (which I can no longer find) specifically stated that Shirley’s two handbags were located on the vanity in the bedroom. Cell phone as well. I don’t recall actual mention of the wallet.
As for whether/how much the perps were in the house: I almost feel like they sneaked up on the D’s, possibly even slipping in through an unlocked slider or screened porch door. RD does not seem like the type who would be comfortable greeting people who stopped by in his boxer shorts and robe. I just get the feeling he and SD were set upon totally unawares, sometime on Saturday morning. Whatever happened in the garage was maybe to contain the mess or simply bc the garage has few windows (pix show it maybe has one set of windows on one side) and could be done discreetly.
I hadn't heard that one?? Do you have a link for that?? I think I recall reading that the fam did not attend a 'vigil' or something.. but the funeral????Their children not going to their funeral, would that show anger toward the parents? I can't imagine children not going to their parents funeral or was there someone going to that funeral they suspected and did not want to see. Did all of their children skip the funeral, can't remember.
Hey Kay......I know they didnt attend the Vigil, seemed like it was the week the Dermonds kids were in town but not sureTheir children not going to their funeral, would that show anger toward the parents? I can't imagine children not going to their parents funeral or was there someone going to that funeral they suspected and did not want to see. Did all of their children skip the funeral, can't remember.