ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #72
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State witness: Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy's sister back on stand.
Nate Eaton
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It’s Friday and today court will be held 8:30 a.m. – 1:30 p.m. with no lunch break. Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy Daybell’s sister, will be back on the stand to start the day. You can get caught up on anything you missed yesterday here.
Larry and Kay Woodcock are here in the courtroom. He says this week has been very rough - especially for Kay.
Bailiff is reviewing courtroom conduct rules with the audience. Lori Vallow Daybell is dressed in black today. Prosecutors and defense attorneys are in the courtroom ready to go.
Judge Boyce is on the bench and jurors are being brought in.
Samantha Gwilliam is back on the stand. Fremont County Prosecuting Attorney Lindsey Blake is questioning her.
A photo of Tammy Daybell is shown on the big screen. Blake reminds the jury that Samantha and Tammy were the only two girls in their family. They saw each other every day.
Samantha says Tammy and Chad moved to Idaho at the end of the school year and the following school year Tammy found a job in the school system. "She loved working with students."
Tammy was talented in computers. She helped one of her schools get a new computer lab. Samantha recalls that Tammy had been sick with depression a few years prior to her passing but two weeks before she died, "Tammy looked very healthy.
She did not look sick at all." When Tammy had been sick before, she spoke with Samantha about it. On the visit two weeks before she died, Tammy never mentioned she felt sick.
Tammy died on Saturday, her funeral was Tuesday. "It was really quick," Samantha says. She asked Chad was the funeral was happening so quick. He said that's what Tammy would want to avoid the fuss.
She asked Chad why they were burying Tammy in Springville rather than in Rexburg where her husband and kids lived. "He said that he thought it would be better if she was down there because it's cold in Rexburg and they wouldn't get to visit her as much."
Samantha says some family members weren't able to come to the funeral because it happened so quick. She says the summer before Tammy died, Chad seemed "more distant" and was "very different." "We didn't know what was going on."
Tammy learned Chad was remarried one month to the day of Tammy's passing. "You don't get married four weeks after you just buried your wife of almost 30 years. You just don't do that."
Samantha says they then learned that Chad remarried two weeks after Tammy's death "and we were devastated." Chad told Samantha that his new wife's name was Lori Ryan and her previous husband had a heart attack. "They were both grieving the passing of spouses."
"As any good sister did, I went to the internet to see who this woman was. I discovered (Lori's) name was tied to Vallow and it brought up newspaper articles about a man in Arizona who had been shot in his own home by his brother-in-law.
I took that to my husband and said, 'I think this is the same woman who he married. He did not die of a heart attack.'"
Samantha found an obituary for Charles and a comment Kay Woodcock left that said, "We will take care of JJ." After learning there were children involved, Samantha said to Chad, "Please tell me about this woman you replaced my sister with."
Chad responded that Lori had a hard life and they were trying to stay away from the stigma of what had happened to her. Samantha asked if Chad and Lori would be raising kids together. "He told me no. There's no children and they were going to be empty nesters."
Blake has no further questions. Jim Archibald will be cross-examining Samantha.
Archibald asks that Samantha be handed a copy of Tammy's obituary. He asks who wrote it. Samantha said she wrote it with some of her family members. "Chad had given us some information but myself and my parents had put it together."
You can read Tammy's obituary here: https://flammfh.com/obituary/tamar
The obituary says Tammy died peacefully in her sleep. Archibald asks Samantha where she got that information. Samantha says that's what they were led to believe by information Chad gave them. Archibald asks about Spring Creek Book Company and if it was Chad's full-time job.
Samantha says sometimes yes and he would sometimes work at the cemetery. Spring Creek went bankrupt after a distribution issue. Deseret Book sent back a bunch of extra books that had been printed that were not selling, Samantha says.
Archibald asks Samantha when Chad and Tammy moved to Rexburg. She says she doesn't remember the exact year but says they lived in Rexburg at least three or four years before Tammy died. Samantha says it became harder to stay in touch after Chad and Lori moved to Rexburg.
Archibald asks if Chad spoke to Samantha about his near-death experiences. She says he did. Archibald asks Samantha to describe Chad's books. "They were very spiritual in nature. He did make some money off them - I don't know the exact amount."
Samantha doesn't recall when Chad first talked to her about his near-death experiences. She says those are normally spiritual experiences that people keep private. Archibald responds,
"Chad was making money and writing books and going to conferences based off his spiritual experiences."
Archibald asks Samantha if Tammy went with Chad to his conferences. Samantha says she didn't go with him because she had a job and was taking care of the kids. Archibald asks Tammy where Chad would go to sell his books.
Samantha says she didn't track him but he's been to Idaho, Arizona, Utah to speak and sell his books.
Tammy helped Chad write the books. "Did you ever hear Tammy say Chad, quit trying to sell books? Get a real job," Archibald asks. Samantha says she never heard a conversation like that. Tammy helped Chad publish the books and was in charge of the graphic design of the books.
She was instrumental in the process.
Samantha says most of Chad's books were fictional and geared toward religious aspects. Some were advertised as fiction, others were not. "Were you aware that at one time he said everything I have written is true?" Archibald asks.
Samantha says she doesn't know about that statement and doesn't recall him ever saying that to her.
Samantha says she's an avid reader and read some of Chad's books to support him but she's a teacher and doesn't have time to read everything. She doesn't know if Tammy believed what Chad wrote was true.
Archibald asks if Chad and Tammy were empty nesters when Tammy died. Samantha says they had a son living at home and another son on an LDS mission in Africa. Chad and Tammy did not have any minor children at the time of her passing. All of the kids were adults.
Archibald asks what a cemetery sexton is. Samantha says they oversee everything at the cemetery, the upkeep, helping people with services, etc. Chad did this for "quite some time" starting in high school as a teenager and then into his adult life.
"It was something he knew how to do and it paid well." Samantha says Chad did not take a job as a sexton in Idaho.
In June 2019, Chad and Tammy came to stay with them to celebrate Chad's mom's birthday. Samantha says the next month, Chad and Tammy came back but they didn't know they were in Springville.
There was a movie premiere tied to a book Chad helped right. "They happened to be in town for that and they just showed up at our door to give me my birthday present." Chad sat in the car and "it was very unusual."
The next time Samantha saw Tammy was in Oct. 2019. Tammy looked healthy and fine.
"Did she ever say to you that my husband has had a vision that I'm going to die?" Archibald says. Samantha says no. She was not making arrangements to die.
After Tammy died, Samantha says she felt "something had happened to her and I didn't even know why. I had no reason to suspect Chad. I had no reason to suspect anything but I do feel as a spiritual person myself that my sister was telling me something had happened to her."
The visit in Oct. 2019 with Samantha and Tammy in Utah was before the driveway gun incident. They then texted each other about the incident when it happened and Samantha was told some teenager tried to fire a paintball gun at her.
Samantha says she has never met Lori because Chad and Lori left for Hawaii. At the end of November 2019, Chad and Lori and all of Chad's kids went to Knott's Berry Farm and the beach in California.
Chad's kids told Samantha about the trip. Archibald ends his questioning by saying, "I'm sorry for the loss of your sister." Samantha tearfully responds, "Thank you."
Blake has some follow-up questions for Samantha. She asks if Chad ever spoke to her about how they were going to support themselves after Tammy died because Tammy was the main breadwinner.
Samantha mentions there was life insurance money and "he told us (his new spouse) had lots of money."
Chad never came around Tammy's family after he got remarried. "He wouldn't even tell my parents he got remarried. He made his daughter call my mom."
Blake asks Samantha if Chad ever told her about him having a vision that Tammy would die before she was 50. "He never said that at all." Blake asks Samantha if all 5 of Chad's kids are still alive. Samantha responds that they are. Blake has no further questions.
Samantha leaves the witness stand and Larry and Kay Woodcock reach out for a hug before Samantha leaves the courtroom with her husband.
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State witness: Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy's sister back on stand.
Nate Eaton
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It’s Friday and today court will be held 8:30 a.m. – 1:30 p.m. with no lunch break. Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy Daybell’s sister, will be back on the stand to start the day. You can get caught up on anything you missed yesterday here.
Larry and Kay Woodcock are here in the courtroom. He says this week has been very rough - especially for Kay.
Bailiff is reviewing courtroom conduct rules with the audience. Lori Vallow Daybell is dressed in black today. Prosecutors and defense attorneys are in the courtroom ready to go.
Judge Boyce is on the bench and jurors are being brought in.
Samantha Gwilliam is back on the stand. Fremont County Prosecuting Attorney Lindsey Blake is questioning her.
A photo of Tammy Daybell is shown on the big screen. Blake reminds the jury that Samantha and Tammy were the only two girls in their family. They saw each other every day.
Samantha says Tammy and Chad moved to Idaho at the end of the school year and the following school year Tammy found a job in the school system. "She loved working with students."
Tammy was talented in computers. She helped one of her schools get a new computer lab. Samantha recalls that Tammy had been sick with depression a few years prior to her passing but two weeks before she died, "Tammy looked very healthy.
She did not look sick at all." When Tammy had been sick before, she spoke with Samantha about it. On the visit two weeks before she died, Tammy never mentioned she felt sick.
Tammy died on Saturday, her funeral was Tuesday. "It was really quick," Samantha says. She asked Chad was the funeral was happening so quick. He said that's what Tammy would want to avoid the fuss.
She asked Chad why they were burying Tammy in Springville rather than in Rexburg where her husband and kids lived. "He said that he thought it would be better if she was down there because it's cold in Rexburg and they wouldn't get to visit her as much."
Samantha says some family members weren't able to come to the funeral because it happened so quick. She says the summer before Tammy died, Chad seemed "more distant" and was "very different." "We didn't know what was going on."
Tammy learned Chad was remarried one month to the day of Tammy's passing. "You don't get married four weeks after you just buried your wife of almost 30 years. You just don't do that."
Samantha says they then learned that Chad remarried two weeks after Tammy's death "and we were devastated." Chad told Samantha that his new wife's name was Lori Ryan and her previous husband had a heart attack. "They were both grieving the passing of spouses."
"As any good sister did, I went to the internet to see who this woman was. I discovered (Lori's) name was tied to Vallow and it brought up newspaper articles about a man in Arizona who had been shot in his own home by his brother-in-law.
I took that to my husband and said, 'I think this is the same woman who he married. He did not die of a heart attack.'"
Samantha found an obituary for Charles and a comment Kay Woodcock left that said, "We will take care of JJ." After learning there were children involved, Samantha said to Chad, "Please tell me about this woman you replaced my sister with."
Chad responded that Lori had a hard life and they were trying to stay away from the stigma of what had happened to her. Samantha asked if Chad and Lori would be raising kids together. "He told me no. There's no children and they were going to be empty nesters."
Blake has no further questions. Jim Archibald will be cross-examining Samantha.
Archibald asks that Samantha be handed a copy of Tammy's obituary. He asks who wrote it. Samantha said she wrote it with some of her family members. "Chad had given us some information but myself and my parents had put it together."
You can read Tammy's obituary here: https://flammfh.com/obituary/tamar
The obituary says Tammy died peacefully in her sleep. Archibald asks Samantha where she got that information. Samantha says that's what they were led to believe by information Chad gave them. Archibald asks about Spring Creek Book Company and if it was Chad's full-time job.
Samantha says sometimes yes and he would sometimes work at the cemetery. Spring Creek went bankrupt after a distribution issue. Deseret Book sent back a bunch of extra books that had been printed that were not selling, Samantha says.
Archibald asks Samantha when Chad and Tammy moved to Rexburg. She says she doesn't remember the exact year but says they lived in Rexburg at least three or four years before Tammy died. Samantha says it became harder to stay in touch after Chad and Lori moved to Rexburg.
Archibald asks if Chad spoke to Samantha about his near-death experiences. She says he did. Archibald asks Samantha to describe Chad's books. "They were very spiritual in nature. He did make some money off them - I don't know the exact amount."
Samantha doesn't recall when Chad first talked to her about his near-death experiences. She says those are normally spiritual experiences that people keep private. Archibald responds,
"Chad was making money and writing books and going to conferences based off his spiritual experiences."
Archibald asks Samantha if Tammy went with Chad to his conferences. Samantha says she didn't go with him because she had a job and was taking care of the kids. Archibald asks Tammy where Chad would go to sell his books.
Samantha says she didn't track him but he's been to Idaho, Arizona, Utah to speak and sell his books.
Tammy helped Chad write the books. "Did you ever hear Tammy say Chad, quit trying to sell books? Get a real job," Archibald asks. Samantha says she never heard a conversation like that. Tammy helped Chad publish the books and was in charge of the graphic design of the books.
She was instrumental in the process.
Samantha says most of Chad's books were fictional and geared toward religious aspects. Some were advertised as fiction, others were not. "Were you aware that at one time he said everything I have written is true?" Archibald asks.
Samantha says she doesn't know about that statement and doesn't recall him ever saying that to her.
Samantha says she's an avid reader and read some of Chad's books to support him but she's a teacher and doesn't have time to read everything. She doesn't know if Tammy believed what Chad wrote was true.
Archibald asks if Chad and Tammy were empty nesters when Tammy died. Samantha says they had a son living at home and another son on an LDS mission in Africa. Chad and Tammy did not have any minor children at the time of her passing. All of the kids were adults.
Archibald asks what a cemetery sexton is. Samantha says they oversee everything at the cemetery, the upkeep, helping people with services, etc. Chad did this for "quite some time" starting in high school as a teenager and then into his adult life.
"It was something he knew how to do and it paid well." Samantha says Chad did not take a job as a sexton in Idaho.
In June 2019, Chad and Tammy came to stay with them to celebrate Chad's mom's birthday. Samantha says the next month, Chad and Tammy came back but they didn't know they were in Springville.
There was a movie premiere tied to a book Chad helped right. "They happened to be in town for that and they just showed up at our door to give me my birthday present." Chad sat in the car and "it was very unusual."
The next time Samantha saw Tammy was in Oct. 2019. Tammy looked healthy and fine.
"Did she ever say to you that my husband has had a vision that I'm going to die?" Archibald says. Samantha says no. She was not making arrangements to die.
After Tammy died, Samantha says she felt "something had happened to her and I didn't even know why. I had no reason to suspect Chad. I had no reason to suspect anything but I do feel as a spiritual person myself that my sister was telling me something had happened to her."
The visit in Oct. 2019 with Samantha and Tammy in Utah was before the driveway gun incident. They then texted each other about the incident when it happened and Samantha was told some teenager tried to fire a paintball gun at her.
Samantha says she has never met Lori because Chad and Lori left for Hawaii. At the end of November 2019, Chad and Lori and all of Chad's kids went to Knott's Berry Farm and the beach in California.
Chad's kids told Samantha about the trip. Archibald ends his questioning by saying, "I'm sorry for the loss of your sister." Samantha tearfully responds, "Thank you."
Blake has some follow-up questions for Samantha. She asks if Chad ever spoke to her about how they were going to support themselves after Tammy died because Tammy was the main breadwinner.
Samantha mentions there was life insurance money and "he told us (his new spouse) had lots of money."
Chad never came around Tammy's family after he got remarried. "He wouldn't even tell my parents he got remarried. He made his daughter call my mom."
Blake asks Samantha if Chad ever told her about him having a vision that Tammy would die before she was 50. "He never said that at all." Blake asks Samantha if all 5 of Chad's kids are still alive. Samantha responds that they are. Blake has no further questions.
Samantha leaves the witness stand and Larry and Kay Woodcock reach out for a hug before Samantha leaves the courtroom with her husband.
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Summary of tweets for Friday, April 28th - Day 13
State witness: Fremont County Sheriff's Office Deputy Colter Cannon.
Nate Eaton
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Next witness on the stand is Fremont County Sheriff's Office Dep. Colter Cannon. Fremont County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Tawyna Rawlings will be questioning Cannon.
Cannon has been a deputy for nine years. He was working a 12-hour shift on Oct. 9, 2019. He was called to 200 North 1900 East in the county for a report of a suspicious individual who had pointed a paintball gun at a lady.
Cannon was in the Egin area of Fremont County when he got the call. It took him 6-7 minutes to get to the house. He drove with his police lights activated but shut them off as he got closer to the house so the suspect would not see him coming.
Joseph Murray, Tammy's son-in-law, and Tammy Daybell both called dispatch.
Cannon received a description from dispatch that the shooter was a man wearing all black with a black ski mask. He drove around to see if he could find anyone and could not. Cannon then knocked on the door and Tammy, Chad and Garth Daybell were there. Tammy came to the door.
Cannon says Tammy was a little nervous but not shaken up. She said she returned from the grocery store and was unloading groceries when she looked up. There was a man wearing all black standing there. She asked what he wanted and the man then fired two shots at her.
She screamed for Chad and the man took off. Tammy thought it might be her son because they had the same build. Cannon says Chad and Garth did not seem upset and were calm.
Cannon spoke with Joseph Murray who was kitty-corner from the home cutting wood. He said he heard Tammy scream and then called 911. This happened a little before 9 p.m. Cannon says it wasn't super dark - it was dusk.
Cannon looked around for shell casings and could not find anything. Cannon says Tammy was pretty convinced it was a paintball gun. On Jan. 3, 2020, Cannon helped the FBI rake through the snow at Chad's house to locate any shell casings. No casings were ever found.
There was no evidence of paint anywhere. Rawlings has no further questions for Cannon.
Archibald cross-examining Cannon. He asks what Cannon did the night of Oct. 9. Cannon says Tammy did not have any paint on her and there were no signs of paint in the area. "You looked for bullet holes in a car?" Archibald asks.
Cannon says he looked in the immediate area for shell casings and didn't find anything.
Archibald has no further questions for Cannon. Prosecutors have nothing further so Cannon is released from the witness stand.
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State witness: Fremont County Sheriff's Office Deputy Colter Cannon.
Nate Eaton
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Next witness on the stand is Fremont County Sheriff's Office Dep. Colter Cannon. Fremont County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Tawyna Rawlings will be questioning Cannon.
Cannon has been a deputy for nine years. He was working a 12-hour shift on Oct. 9, 2019. He was called to 200 North 1900 East in the county for a report of a suspicious individual who had pointed a paintball gun at a lady.
Cannon was in the Egin area of Fremont County when he got the call. It took him 6-7 minutes to get to the house. He drove with his police lights activated but shut them off as he got closer to the house so the suspect would not see him coming.
Joseph Murray, Tammy's son-in-law, and Tammy Daybell both called dispatch.
Cannon received a description from dispatch that the shooter was a man wearing all black with a black ski mask. He drove around to see if he could find anyone and could not. Cannon then knocked on the door and Tammy, Chad and Garth Daybell were there. Tammy came to the door.
Cannon says Tammy was a little nervous but not shaken up. She said she returned from the grocery store and was unloading groceries when she looked up. There was a man wearing all black standing there. She asked what he wanted and the man then fired two shots at her.
She screamed for Chad and the man took off. Tammy thought it might be her son because they had the same build. Cannon says Chad and Garth did not seem upset and were calm.
Cannon spoke with Joseph Murray who was kitty-corner from the home cutting wood. He said he heard Tammy scream and then called 911. This happened a little before 9 p.m. Cannon says it wasn't super dark - it was dusk.
Cannon looked around for shell casings and could not find anything. Cannon says Tammy was pretty convinced it was a paintball gun. On Jan. 3, 2020, Cannon helped the FBI rake through the snow at Chad's house to locate any shell casings. No casings were ever found.
There was no evidence of paint anywhere. Rawlings has no further questions for Cannon.
Archibald cross-examining Cannon. He asks what Cannon did the night of Oct. 9. Cannon says Tammy did not have any paint on her and there were no signs of paint in the area. "You looked for bullet holes in a car?" Archibald asks.
Cannon says he looked in the immediate area for shell casings and didn't find anything.
Archibald has no further questions for Cannon. Prosecutors have nothing further so Cannon is released from the witness stand.
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Summary of tweets for Friday, April 28th - Day 13
State witness: Deputy Helena Kaaiakamanu, St. Anthony Police Dept., but was a 911 dispathcer with Fremont County Sheriff's Office.
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Deputy Helena Kaaiakamanu is the next witness. Kaaiakamanu works for the St. Anthony Police Department but was a 911 dispatcher with the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. Tawyna Rawlings will be questioning her.
Kaaiakamanu worked as a dispatch for 2.5 years and was a supervisor. She took 911 calls and dispatched police, fire and EMS to respond to those calls.
The calls are recorded and stored. Kaaiakamanu was working Oct. 9 and received two phone calls about the possible shooting. The first call came in around 9:30-9:45 toward the end of the dispatcher's shift. The next call came in around five minutes later.
Kaaiakamanu did not know Tammy Daybell but knew she was the librarian at school.
The calls from Oct. 9 were recorded. Rawlings asks to submit the calls into evidence.
Rawlings wants to play the first part of one call so Kaaiakamanu can authenticate that it's her voice. The entire call will then be played.
The first call is Joseph Murray. He tells the dispatcher his mother-in-law got home about ten minutes ago. "She thinks a man wearing a ski mask came up to her." Murray explains what happened and Kaaiakamanu asks for the address. It's hard to hear and Murray is muffled.
The dispatcher asks Murray twice if he's still on the line. "Does she know what direction he ended up running?" Murray says the man headed east back behind the house. Kaaiakamanu asks if there's a description of clothing - Murray says he didn't get one.
Kaaiakamanu tells Murray she will send a deputy to his mother's home.
Rawlings now asks to play the second 911 call made by Tammy Daybell following the shooting incident.
We now hear Tammy Daybell's call. She says she needs to report something and Kaaiakamanu asks for the address. Tammy says there was a suspicious person. "I pulled up into our driveway and I was getting stuff out of the backseat of my car.
He had a paintball gun like he was going to shoot at me. I kept asking what he was doing and I yelled for my husband. He took off behind my house."
I believe this is the first time I've heard Tammy's voice. She says she went inside the house to get her husband and son. "The man in the driveway didn't say anything.
He was holding the gun like he had a rifle and was shooting at me but nothing came out of the gun so I don't think it was loaded." She says Chad and her son went outside but the man "was long gone."
Kaaiakamanu tells Tammy she will send a deputy. Rawlings has no further questions for the dispatcher. Archibald has no questions. Kaaiakamanu is dismissed from the witness stand.
Boyce asks for a quick sidebar with the attorneys. White noise is played in the courtroom.
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State witness: Deputy Helena Kaaiakamanu, St. Anthony Police Dept., but was a 911 dispathcer with Fremont County Sheriff's Office.
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Deputy Helena Kaaiakamanu is the next witness. Kaaiakamanu works for the St. Anthony Police Department but was a 911 dispatcher with the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. Tawyna Rawlings will be questioning her.
Kaaiakamanu worked as a dispatch for 2.5 years and was a supervisor. She took 911 calls and dispatched police, fire and EMS to respond to those calls.
The calls are recorded and stored. Kaaiakamanu was working Oct. 9 and received two phone calls about the possible shooting. The first call came in around 9:30-9:45 toward the end of the dispatcher's shift. The next call came in around five minutes later.
Kaaiakamanu did not know Tammy Daybell but knew she was the librarian at school.
The calls from Oct. 9 were recorded. Rawlings asks to submit the calls into evidence.
Rawlings wants to play the first part of one call so Kaaiakamanu can authenticate that it's her voice. The entire call will then be played.
The first call is Joseph Murray. He tells the dispatcher his mother-in-law got home about ten minutes ago. "She thinks a man wearing a ski mask came up to her." Murray explains what happened and Kaaiakamanu asks for the address. It's hard to hear and Murray is muffled.
The dispatcher asks Murray twice if he's still on the line. "Does she know what direction he ended up running?" Murray says the man headed east back behind the house. Kaaiakamanu asks if there's a description of clothing - Murray says he didn't get one.
Kaaiakamanu tells Murray she will send a deputy to his mother's home.
Rawlings now asks to play the second 911 call made by Tammy Daybell following the shooting incident.
We now hear Tammy Daybell's call. She says she needs to report something and Kaaiakamanu asks for the address. Tammy says there was a suspicious person. "I pulled up into our driveway and I was getting stuff out of the backseat of my car.
He had a paintball gun like he was going to shoot at me. I kept asking what he was doing and I yelled for my husband. He took off behind my house."
I believe this is the first time I've heard Tammy's voice. She says she went inside the house to get her husband and son. "The man in the driveway didn't say anything.
He was holding the gun like he had a rifle and was shooting at me but nothing came out of the gun so I don't think it was loaded." She says Chad and her son went outside but the man "was long gone."
Kaaiakamanu tells Tammy she will send a deputy. Rawlings has no further questions for the dispatcher. Archibald has no questions. Kaaiakamanu is dismissed from the witness stand.
Boyce asks for a quick sidebar with the attorneys. White noise is played in the courtroom.
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Brenda Dye & Idaho law ( also see budgets)
'officials say investigators were not required by state law to perform an autopsy after Tammy Daybell’s death.'
if she'd been murdered in Springville, Utah, this would not have been allowed
'Sgt. Spencer Cannon with the Utah County Sheriff’s Office told KSL under Utah law, a case like Tammy Daybell’s would have been referred to the state medical examiner’s office.
www.eastidahonews.com
'County coroners serve four-year term elected positions and are only required to attend a coroner’s school and complete 24 hours of additional training every two years, according to Idaho state statute.
In rural communities like Fremont County, this is a part-time job — and their resources are limited.
For example, Fremont County listed a budget of just over $37,000 including the coroner’s salary.
Neighboring Madison County listed about $20,000 for their budget.
In comparison, Ada County, where Boise is located, has a budget of just over $3 million.'
'officials say investigators were not required by state law to perform an autopsy after Tammy Daybell’s death.'
if she'd been murdered in Springville, Utah, this would not have been allowed
'Sgt. Spencer Cannon with the Utah County Sheriff’s Office told KSL under Utah law, a case like Tammy Daybell’s would have been referred to the state medical examiner’s office.
Tammy Daybell investigation: Idaho law allowed her burial without an autopsy - East Idaho News
SALEM (KSL TV) — As investigations continue at Chad Daybell’s Salem property, officials say investigators were not required by state law to perform an autopsy after Tammy Daybell’s death. Not only were the remains of Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow buried on the property, but Tammy Daybell allegedly...
www.eastidahonews.com
'County coroners serve four-year term elected positions and are only required to attend a coroner’s school and complete 24 hours of additional training every two years, according to Idaho state statute.
In rural communities like Fremont County, this is a part-time job — and their resources are limited.
For example, Fremont County listed a budget of just over $37,000 including the coroner’s salary.
Neighboring Madison County listed about $20,000 for their budget.
In comparison, Ada County, where Boise is located, has a budget of just over $3 million.'
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State witness: Christina West, a dispatcher at Fremont County Sheriff's Office.
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Christina West is the next witness. She was a dispatcher at the Fremont County Sherriff's Office in 2019. Lindsey Blake is questioning West.
West was working the morning of Oct. 19, 2019. She received a call about a deceased person - Tammy Daybell. West had never heard Tammy's name prior to that day. Blake asks to play the 911 call.
"We just found my mom. She's on the ground frozen...or she's stiff. I don't know," one of Tammy's sons says. Chad comes on the phone and says, "I'm Chad the husband. She's clearly dead." West asks for clarification on where Chad lives.
"Oh no," you hear Chad say as he's crying. "She's frozen." He then calmly says his name, "Chad Daybell." He continues to sound like he's crying while saying, "Oh man." The dispatcher says "I'm so sorry" and says someone is on the way.
Blake has no further questions. Archibald will cross-examine West. "Someone identifying themselves as Chad Daybell asks for an ambulance or a coroner?"
West responds, "I don't think he asked for anything. I think he said his house was on the corner. He did not say anything about an ambulance or coroner." Archibald says he may have misheard what Chad said (it did sound like he said coroner on the call).
Archibald has no further questions for West. Blake has more questions about whether the information Chad said on the phone was relayed over the radio to the deputy. West says normally that's the case but the deputy was sitting in dispatch at the time so he just went.
There was no indication that life-saving measures were needed. It's now time for the morning recess until 10:15 a.m.
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State witness: Christina West, a dispatcher at Fremont County Sheriff's Office.
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Christina West is the next witness. She was a dispatcher at the Fremont County Sherriff's Office in 2019. Lindsey Blake is questioning West.
West was working the morning of Oct. 19, 2019. She received a call about a deceased person - Tammy Daybell. West had never heard Tammy's name prior to that day. Blake asks to play the 911 call.
"We just found my mom. She's on the ground frozen...or she's stiff. I don't know," one of Tammy's sons says. Chad comes on the phone and says, "I'm Chad the husband. She's clearly dead." West asks for clarification on where Chad lives.
"Oh no," you hear Chad say as he's crying. "She's frozen." He then calmly says his name, "Chad Daybell." He continues to sound like he's crying while saying, "Oh man." The dispatcher says "I'm so sorry" and says someone is on the way.
Blake has no further questions. Archibald will cross-examine West. "Someone identifying themselves as Chad Daybell asks for an ambulance or a coroner?"
West responds, "I don't think he asked for anything. I think he said his house was on the corner. He did not say anything about an ambulance or coroner." Archibald says he may have misheard what Chad said (it did sound like he said coroner on the call).
Archibald has no further questions for West. Blake has more questions about whether the information Chad said on the phone was relayed over the radio to the deputy. West says normally that's the case but the deputy was sitting in dispatch at the time so he just went.
There was no indication that life-saving measures were needed. It's now time for the morning recess until 10:15 a.m.
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State witness: Officer Alyssa Greenhalgh with Rexburg Police Dept.
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NEW THREAD: We are back from the break. We are back from the morning break. The prosecution calls Officer Alyssa Greenhalgh with the Rexburg Police Dept.
Greenhalgh used to work for the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. She was working the morning of Oct. 19, 2019 and responded to Chad Daybell's house for a report of an unattended death.
When she arrived, Greenhalgh says Chad and Garth both met her in the living room. Chad seemed "distraught" and was crying. Garth was reserved and quiet. Greenhalgh says an unattended death is when someone is not under a physician's care.
When dispatched to an unattended death, Greenhalgh says they are looking for obvious signs of foul play, disturbances at the scene, broken furniture, things pushed around, gunshot wounds, stab wounds, etc.
Greenhalgh says there were no signs of a break-in or disturbance at the house. Chad led Greenhalgh to Tammy's body, which was in the bedroom on the bed. Greenhalgh said Chad told her he had moved the body.
Chad told Greenhalgh Tammy woke up coughing around midnight and then vomited. He helped her recover and then assisted her back to bed. Chad said around 5:45 a.m., Tammy then partially fell off the bed.
He said "her feet and legs had gotten caught in the sheets. Her torso had fallen off the bed but her head was on the floor." Chad said he and his son moved the body back into the bed and covered her with blankets. That's how Greenhalgh saw her. It was apparent Tammy was dead.
Chad told the deputy that Tammy hated to see the doctor and had fallen in the driveway about a month prior. Chad did not say anything about Tammy having fainting spells but he said she had issues with her blood pressure.
In the courtroom - Lori is looking back and forth from the witness and Blake. Her arms are folded.
Greenhalgh says Garth Daybell never contradicted his father and did not give any information to the deputies. Greenhalgh took photos of the scene and Blake asks to admit the pictures.
Archibald argues the photos are too graphic and may be more prejudicial. He objects to having the photos shown. Blake says they are an accurate description of the scene. Boyce overrules the objection and the pictures are admitted.
Archibald says to Boyce that he took special precautions for the photos of the children and suggests maybe he should consider that. Boyce says he has seen the photos and will allow them to be displayed to the public even though they are graphic in nature.
The first photo was taken from the entry of Tammy's bedroom. Tammy is on the bed. The sheets are blue and there is a blue blanket/comforter over her body. The next image shows a mat, towels and clothes on the floor next to the bed.
The next image shows Tammy's body on the bed under a dark blue/black comforter. You can see her head. The next image is a close-up of Tammy dead on the bed. "She had some reddish pink foam on her mouth that was running down her cheek."
That is displayed on the photo. Greenhalgh says she has never responded to another death where foam was present. The next photo is zoomed in on Tammy's face.
Greenhalgh did not move Tammy's body but when other deputies arrived, they moved it to make an assessment. The next photo shows the pink foam at Tammy's mouth.
We now see a very close image of Tammy's face and there is pink foam coming out of her mouth. Greenhalgh says Tammy had a small bruise on her arm.
The next image is a close-up of Tammy Daybell's face at the morgue. The pink foam has been removed. Blake has no further questions. Jim Archibald will be cross-examining Greenhalgh.
Archibald asks Greenhalgh what time she responded to the Daybell's house. It was around 6 a.m. Archibald asks Greenhalgh why she didn't ask Chad why he waited 20 minutes to call 911. She says she did not specifically ask Chad that.
"Bodies don't move if they are deceased. For her to fall off the bed, she would have been alive at that point," Archibald says. He asks if CPR had been performed on Tammy between 5:40 a.m.- 6 a.m. She responds, "To my knowledge, it was not performed." Archibald has nothing more.
Blake has some follow-up questions and asks if it appeared Tammy had only been dead 10-20 minutes. Greenhalgh says it appeared she had been dead longer than that.
Tammy's body was cold to the touch but she could not determine if rigor mortis was setting in. Blake has no further questions.
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State witness: Officer Alyssa Greenhalgh with Rexburg Police Dept.
Nate Eaton
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NEW THREAD: We are back from the break. We are back from the morning break. The prosecution calls Officer Alyssa Greenhalgh with the Rexburg Police Dept.
Greenhalgh used to work for the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. She was working the morning of Oct. 19, 2019 and responded to Chad Daybell's house for a report of an unattended death.
When she arrived, Greenhalgh says Chad and Garth both met her in the living room. Chad seemed "distraught" and was crying. Garth was reserved and quiet. Greenhalgh says an unattended death is when someone is not under a physician's care.
When dispatched to an unattended death, Greenhalgh says they are looking for obvious signs of foul play, disturbances at the scene, broken furniture, things pushed around, gunshot wounds, stab wounds, etc.
Greenhalgh says there were no signs of a break-in or disturbance at the house. Chad led Greenhalgh to Tammy's body, which was in the bedroom on the bed. Greenhalgh said Chad told her he had moved the body.
Chad told Greenhalgh Tammy woke up coughing around midnight and then vomited. He helped her recover and then assisted her back to bed. Chad said around 5:45 a.m., Tammy then partially fell off the bed.
He said "her feet and legs had gotten caught in the sheets. Her torso had fallen off the bed but her head was on the floor." Chad said he and his son moved the body back into the bed and covered her with blankets. That's how Greenhalgh saw her. It was apparent Tammy was dead.
Chad told the deputy that Tammy hated to see the doctor and had fallen in the driveway about a month prior. Chad did not say anything about Tammy having fainting spells but he said she had issues with her blood pressure.
In the courtroom - Lori is looking back and forth from the witness and Blake. Her arms are folded.
Greenhalgh says Garth Daybell never contradicted his father and did not give any information to the deputies. Greenhalgh took photos of the scene and Blake asks to admit the pictures.
Archibald argues the photos are too graphic and may be more prejudicial. He objects to having the photos shown. Blake says they are an accurate description of the scene. Boyce overrules the objection and the pictures are admitted.
Archibald says to Boyce that he took special precautions for the photos of the children and suggests maybe he should consider that. Boyce says he has seen the photos and will allow them to be displayed to the public even though they are graphic in nature.
The first photo was taken from the entry of Tammy's bedroom. Tammy is on the bed. The sheets are blue and there is a blue blanket/comforter over her body. The next image shows a mat, towels and clothes on the floor next to the bed.
The next image shows Tammy's body on the bed under a dark blue/black comforter. You can see her head. The next image is a close-up of Tammy dead on the bed. "She had some reddish pink foam on her mouth that was running down her cheek."
That is displayed on the photo. Greenhalgh says she has never responded to another death where foam was present. The next photo is zoomed in on Tammy's face.
Greenhalgh did not move Tammy's body but when other deputies arrived, they moved it to make an assessment. The next photo shows the pink foam at Tammy's mouth.
We now see a very close image of Tammy's face and there is pink foam coming out of her mouth. Greenhalgh says Tammy had a small bruise on her arm.
The next image is a close-up of Tammy Daybell's face at the morgue. The pink foam has been removed. Blake has no further questions. Jim Archibald will be cross-examining Greenhalgh.
Archibald asks Greenhalgh what time she responded to the Daybell's house. It was around 6 a.m. Archibald asks Greenhalgh why she didn't ask Chad why he waited 20 minutes to call 911. She says she did not specifically ask Chad that.
"Bodies don't move if they are deceased. For her to fall off the bed, she would have been alive at that point," Archibald says. He asks if CPR had been performed on Tammy between 5:40 a.m.- 6 a.m. She responds, "To my knowledge, it was not performed." Archibald has nothing more.
Blake has some follow-up questions and asks if it appeared Tammy had only been dead 10-20 minutes. Greenhalgh says it appeared she had been dead longer than that.
Tammy's body was cold to the touch but she could not determine if rigor mortis was setting in. Blake has no further questions.
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No, the coroner Brenda Dye actually removed the foam herself. ( see her testimony)
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State witness: Cammy Willmore, with Fremont County Advanced EMT>
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Next witness up is Cammy Willmore. Willmore is a Fremont County Advanced EMT. Blake will be questioning her.
Willmore has been an EMT for 14 years and was a medical assistant for 40 years. Willmore was the deputy coroner in Fremont County in 2019. "I will go on calls when the coroner is not available.
I live in St. Anthony and respond to deaths in that area. I go in, access the body, pronounce time of death, try to gather information on why the person is deceased."
Willmore says she was fairly new as a deputy coroner and had responded to five unattended deaths before Oct. 201. She was called to the report of Tammy Daybell's death.
When she arrived at the house, Chad Daybell was at the house. "He was distressed, distraught, appropriately so, saying he found his wife dead."
Willmore had never responded to an asphyxiation death before. Chad told Willmore Tammy got sick around midnight and was in the bathroom vomiting. He said she became ok and went back to bed.
Chad said Tammy was in menopause and liked to sleep with her leg outside of the bed. Later on, he said he heard Tammy fall out of the bed. "He said he got up and she was out of the bed with her head and body down with one leg twisted in the blankets.
She was cold and not breathing at the time."
Willmore says the county coroner called her and asked her to respond to the house because Willmore was closer. Blake shows Willmore the photo of Tammy lying on the bed under the blanket.
Willmore says when she walked in, Tammy had foam coming out of her mouth - "quite a bit of foam" - and Willmore says "that was odd." When Willmore touched Tammy, she realized Tammy had been dead for a while because she was so cold and her body was stiff.
Willmore believes Tammy had been dead for a few hours. "She was 49 so this was unusual because she's not that old. I was looking for things on her neck, bruising, scratches, those kind of things," Willmore says. She observed bruises on her forearm but they didn't look new.
Blake shows a close-up photo of Tammy's face and Willmore describes a "pink, frothy foam." Willmore was wondering what caused it and she thought it could have been congestive heart failure.
Willmore had never been to a death scene where she saw pink foam. "It caused me enough concern that I got my phone and looked up poisoning. I also looked up foam just because I thought it was weird and I had not seen that before."
There was nothing to indicate Tammy's head hit the nightstand, Willmore says. Coroner Brenda Dye then arrived on scene and Willmore deferred to her. Willmore asked Chad if Tammy had been ill. He said she had not been well for the past month and didn't go to the doctor.
Willmore asked to see Tammy's medications. There were herbs and natural-type medicines but nothing abnormal. Chad told Willmore Tammy had been light-headed. Willmore says on the scene, they have no medical records from the person but they rely on what family members tell them.
When Brenda Dye (the coroner) arrived, she took over. Willmore would have determined if an autopsy was needed if the coroner was not there but because Dye was on scene, Willmore didn't make the call.
Chad Daybell did not want an autopsy performed as Dye and Willmore were discussing the option. "He said no." Willmore says she had concerns for Tammy's death because of her age and the foam.
Blake asks Willmore if, at the time, she had heard the names JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Alex Cox or Lori Vallow. At that time, she had not. Blake has no further questions. Archibald has no questions for Willmore. She is released from the stand.
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State witness: Cammy Willmore, with Fremont County Advanced EMT>
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Next witness up is Cammy Willmore. Willmore is a Fremont County Advanced EMT. Blake will be questioning her.
Willmore has been an EMT for 14 years and was a medical assistant for 40 years. Willmore was the deputy coroner in Fremont County in 2019. "I will go on calls when the coroner is not available.
I live in St. Anthony and respond to deaths in that area. I go in, access the body, pronounce time of death, try to gather information on why the person is deceased."
Willmore says she was fairly new as a deputy coroner and had responded to five unattended deaths before Oct. 201. She was called to the report of Tammy Daybell's death.
When she arrived at the house, Chad Daybell was at the house. "He was distressed, distraught, appropriately so, saying he found his wife dead."
Willmore had never responded to an asphyxiation death before. Chad told Willmore Tammy got sick around midnight and was in the bathroom vomiting. He said she became ok and went back to bed.
Chad said Tammy was in menopause and liked to sleep with her leg outside of the bed. Later on, he said he heard Tammy fall out of the bed. "He said he got up and she was out of the bed with her head and body down with one leg twisted in the blankets.
She was cold and not breathing at the time."
Willmore says the county coroner called her and asked her to respond to the house because Willmore was closer. Blake shows Willmore the photo of Tammy lying on the bed under the blanket.
Willmore says when she walked in, Tammy had foam coming out of her mouth - "quite a bit of foam" - and Willmore says "that was odd." When Willmore touched Tammy, she realized Tammy had been dead for a while because she was so cold and her body was stiff.
Willmore believes Tammy had been dead for a few hours. "She was 49 so this was unusual because she's not that old. I was looking for things on her neck, bruising, scratches, those kind of things," Willmore says. She observed bruises on her forearm but they didn't look new.
Blake shows a close-up photo of Tammy's face and Willmore describes a "pink, frothy foam." Willmore was wondering what caused it and she thought it could have been congestive heart failure.
Willmore had never been to a death scene where she saw pink foam. "It caused me enough concern that I got my phone and looked up poisoning. I also looked up foam just because I thought it was weird and I had not seen that before."
There was nothing to indicate Tammy's head hit the nightstand, Willmore says. Coroner Brenda Dye then arrived on scene and Willmore deferred to her. Willmore asked Chad if Tammy had been ill. He said she had not been well for the past month and didn't go to the doctor.
Willmore asked to see Tammy's medications. There were herbs and natural-type medicines but nothing abnormal. Chad told Willmore Tammy had been light-headed. Willmore says on the scene, they have no medical records from the person but they rely on what family members tell them.
When Brenda Dye (the coroner) arrived, she took over. Willmore would have determined if an autopsy was needed if the coroner was not there but because Dye was on scene, Willmore didn't make the call.
Chad Daybell did not want an autopsy performed as Dye and Willmore were discussing the option. "He said no." Willmore says she had concerns for Tammy's death because of her age and the foam.
Blake asks Willmore if, at the time, she had heard the names JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Alex Cox or Lori Vallow. At that time, she had not. Blake has no further questions. Archibald has no questions for Willmore. She is released from the stand.
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Chad told Dye that Tammy had been feeling off lately "like she wasn't in her body."
That last comment got Lori's attention and she is now watching Dye as she testifies.
That last comment got Lori's attention and she is now watching Dye as she testifies.
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Looking forward to Garth testifying now that Chad told Brenda that both Chad & Garth saw Tammy throwing-up, as in Nate's tweet ( Am assuming Chad lied to Brenda and that he was trying to create a false witness to throw any suspicion)
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