Yea that is horribly sad yet mature and also probably a learned trait from coping with a dysfunctional and psychotic mom. She probably truly felt like she was JJ’s mom. She probably took care of him more than Lori. What also strikes me and angers me greatly is how NO ONE looked out for her. Anybody send her a birthday present? And I still can’t get over Colby recognizing that yet not asking where they are moving. Blows my mind. September to November 26 is a LONG time.
Unfortunately, parentification is *really* common among abused and neglected children. Fits quite well, imo, with Lori's apparent narcissism.
TR was never very active on SM. Even years before any issues she made very few posts
One media article commented that Tylee was "very" active on social media. I can't remember if I posted about it or not, I think I did. It's very possible that, up until her disappearance, she was indeed very active, but it could very well not be obvious to outside observers, for two reasons: 1) User IDs that we do not know and are not easily findable. Kids these days are much more likely to have their socials private, for secrecy, because most of the services encourage or require it for under-18s, and because honestly, kids in general are tending more online security-conscious, as a rule, than their parents were/are.
But there are plenty of defiant narcissistic people who I would not dignify with the label of libertarian ... they're just criminals who don't want to get caught, or arrogant self-absorbed people who think that the norms and laws of a functioning society don't apply to them.
Lori, to me, very much comes across as narcissistic. I'd never realized/connected it before, but the only people I know who tend toward more extreme anti-government views also present as narcissistic. Not sure what the correlation is there, but it's interesting thing to notice.
What was so special about Bailey's collar? Jmo
I doubt there was any "special" or out of the ordinary, just a collar/harness that indicated in some way that Bailey was a service animal and not a pet, useful *but NOT required* when taking the service animal into public places.
I have read that the collar can be like a bib type of thing and have the child's medications in it. Perhaps it can have medical details, emergency contact, etc also. It would also allow the dog to be taken in restaurants and places where dogs usually cannot go, I guess. A bit like the harness that guide dogs for the blind wear maybe? MOO.
The timeline states from the divorce documents:
"the dog’s collar so the dog can go wherever JJ goes"
So presumably she took the item that states Bailey was a service dog and lets the dog accompany him wherever.
Not to mention she also took J.J.'s medication and refused to give it back.
It could have storage for medication, and that's one thing a dog can be trained to do, recognize when its owner has need of an on-demand medication, and indicate to them, or someone nearby, that its owner has need of it. I think that's a little less likely with as young as JJ is, and also, I doubt he was taking on-demand (as needed) medications, but of course I could be wrong.
Also, a specific halter or collar is neither necessary nor required to take a service animal into a public place. The laws don't work that way. However, taking it, so CV would have to go get a new collar or halter might well have been done just to be obnoxious.
Lori taking JJ's medication bothers me. It suggests not just that she wanted to make things difficult for CV, but that she truly did not care how her actions impacted JJ, so long as she was irritating to CV. These are fixable issues, the collar and the medication, and not really THAT big a problem to deal with in the scheme of things... just a hassle, and a cost. Like canceling his flight, or taking and hiding his truck. Childish, immature, and almost reckless. Spiteful.
It occurs to me that, taking the medication and the truck, both... I wonder if CV tried to report their theft?
I was thinking about RexburgSleuths comments about searching the Salt Lake City airport for the vehicles.
If one of their vehicles was left at SLC airport LE would have impounded it by now.
Vehicles can stay in long term for months at many economy parking places, and I suspect no one would notice (unless deliberately searching) until it wasn't paid for and it was time to have it towed.
Someone mentioned a week or two back here on WS that Tylee was active on SM, but using Snapchat and other SM platforms that don't leave a public footprint. Anyone on this forum have knowledge of 16-17 year olds today and their SM use? Does that seem reasonable?
This would be totally normal with this age group and younger. I work with quite a few people ages 14-25, and heavy Facebook use has totally dropped off. Most seem to use it very little these days, if at all. Instagram, Snapchat, and Tiktok are the most popular, with a variety of older or lesser-known services mixed in. It's extremely common for teens to have multiple accounts on each service. Maybe one that they allow their family to know, another for their friends, and maybe even one or more that are secret. Snapchat, especially, since you can't change your username - they just make another one. Or forgetting or losing passwords, or losing access to an email, or just changing their phone... these are all reasons they may well just make another account. A new account is easier than trying to access the old one. Changing accounts is also a way to leave unwanted relationships behind.
but my thought on this is, she doesn’t have anybody to talk to. You don’t post on Snapchat or talk to people on Snapchat without someone to talk to. If she’s talking to someone, a friend, you’d think they’d be reporting it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Tylee is likely to be active on social media now. But prior to things going bad? It would be stranger if she wasn't active on social media.
What concerns me about those scheduled hearings is that LV will have to be served for them all. I don't think that will be easy! I cant see a prosecutor or the FBI getting involved in that to do it.
Will she really have to be served for them all? Or is it possible that there are things going on behind the scenes that mean she is not required to be served?
