I've listened to the clip available and for me, it's so short and garbled (as is the "guys, down the hill"), it's impossible to tell if it's the same voice. I'm not even convinced a voice expert could make a distinction based on what's available. But, that's jmo.
Nope. I even listened to some Ol' Blue Eyes' songs to try to hear out what you're talking about as I'd like to understand what you're describing.
We shot you to pieces?? Lol! You’re still here
www.carrollcountycomet.com
Murder prosecutions: This happened last summer; they were sentenced this year.MOO Carroll County Prosecutor
McLeland passed the bar in 2010 and began a practice that year in Delphi. In 2012 he ran (lost the election) for the Carroll Circuit Court Judge position. He has been an attorney for 12 years, and for the last 5, he has been a prosecutor. As far as his being the elected Carroll County Prosecutor since 2018, I don't see that he has had high-profile cases and I'm not finding any murder prosecutions in that county.
I'm beginning to suspect that the sealing request is coming from some specific investigators and the families having his ear. Even DC said a release would not harm the case. MOO
The defense seems to be much more experienced as attorneys.
According to the article:
"McLeland is the former attorney for the County Commissioners, serves as the Deer Creek Township legal counsel and works for the county as one of several public defenders".
MOOShake up in County Prosecutor’s Office - Carroll County Comet
Carroll County Prosecutor Rob Ives announced last month he plans to resign his elected post at the end of this year. The Carroll County Republican Party held a caucus Saturday, Dec. 2, to choose Ives’ successor. Ives’ deputy prosecutor, Jerry Bean, who served as the Tippecanoe County Prosecutor...
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MOO Carroll County Prosecutor
McLeland passed the bar in 2010 and began a practice that year in Delphi. In 2012 he ran (lost the election) for the Carroll Circuit Court Judge position. He has been an attorney for 12 years, and for the last 5, he has been a prosecutor. As far as his being the elected Carroll County Prosecutor since 2018, I don't see that he has had high-profile cases and I'm not finding any murder prosecutions in that county.
I'm beginning to suspect that the sealing request is coming from some specific investigators and the families having his ear. Even DC said a release would not harm the case. MOO
The defense seems to be much more experienced as attorneys.
According to the article:
"McLeland is the former attorney for the County Commissioners, serves as the Deer Creek Township legal counsel and works for the county as one of several public defenders".
MOOShake up in County Prosecutor’s Office - Carroll County Comet
Carroll County Prosecutor Rob Ives announced last month he plans to resign his elected post at the end of this year. The Carroll County Republican Party held a caucus Saturday, Dec. 2, to choose Ives’ successor. Ives’ deputy prosecutor, Jerry Bean, who served as the Tippecanoe County Prosecutor...
I would caveat that by saying that defense attorneys rarely say on a murder charge that the case is so weak that their client should be released on their own recognise (with no bail). That's a gutsy play that runs the risk of damaging their credibility with the judge if it's frivolous
That is my understanding..Technical question here— RA’s lawyers have not seen all the evidence the prosecution has yet, correct? That evidence will come out during the process of discovery.
So, does this mean RA’s lawyers will have seen the search warrant and results of the search yet, or is that part of discovery?
I know this is a basic question, just want to make sure I understand correctly!
Thanks for your help!
“We’ll see what the evidence looks like,” Baldwin said. “But the PCA, the probable cause affidavit, we are not impressed.”
Attorney for Delphi Murders Suspect 'Not Impressed' with State's 'Flimsy' Probable Cause Affidavit: 'He Is Innocent; He Has Told Us That Very Emotionally'
An attorney for the Delphi double murder suspect Richard Matthew Allen, 50, called the state's probable cause affidavit "flimsy."lawandcrime.com
Thanks, I remember this but it didn't show up searching for murders in Carroll County. MOO only but it was easily solved and there were plea agreements. No trialsMurder prosecutions: This happened last summer; they were sentenced this year.
GUILTY - IN - Willie Lee Smith Jr., 55, murdered during a meetup for sex, Flora, June, 2021 *2 Arrested*
Suspects in Lafayette man's murder held without bond until hearings [snips] Note: the murder happened in June but charges weren't filed until July. DELPHI, Ind. — Willie Lee Smith Jr. drove to Flora on Wednesday July 16 to have sex with Shianne Brooks-Brown for $80, according to probable cause...
Tyrone Leftridge 08C01-2106-F2-000005 Flora 45 yrs
Jennifer Dean 08C01-2107-MR-000002 Flora 60 yrs
Shianne Brooks-Brown 08C01-2106-MR-000001 Flora awaiting trial
Technical question here— RA’s lawyers have not seen all the evidence the prosecution has yet, correct? That evidence will come out during the process of discovery.
So, does this mean RA’s lawyers will have seen the search warrant and results of the search yet, or is that part of discovery?
I know this is a basic question, just want to make sure I understand correctly!
Thanks for your help!
“We’ll see what the evidence looks like,” Baldwin said. “But the PCA, the probable cause affidavit, we are not impressed.”
Attorney for Delphi Murders Suspect 'Not Impressed' with State's 'Flimsy' Probable Cause Affidavit: 'He Is Innocent; He Has Told Us That Very Emotionally'
An attorney for the Delphi double murder suspect Richard Matthew Allen, 50, called the state's probable cause affidavit "flimsy."
Discovery is a process and it's always too slow for the defense and too fast for the prosecution. The prosecution is supposed to work in good faith to turn over all evidence to the defense, including exculpatory material. In practice you may get easy things first - like the search warrants, evidence lists - and access to test results and the actual evidence later. The defense often complains the material is not coming fast enough and they can file motions seeking discovery that they believe/know the prosecution has and isn't providing. Sometimes the judge will get involved helping the parties to set schedules and deadlines to move things along.Technical question here— RA’s lawyers have not seen all the evidence the prosecution has yet, correct? That evidence will come out during the process of discovery.
So, does this mean RA’s lawyers will have seen the search warrant and results of the search yet, or is that part of discovery?
I know this is a basic question, just want to make sure I understand correctly!
Thanks for your help!
“We’ll see what the evidence looks like,” Baldwin said. “But the PCA, the probable cause affidavit, we are not impressed.”
Attorney for Delphi Murders Suspect 'Not Impressed' with State's 'Flimsy' Probable Cause Affidavit: 'He Is Innocent; He Has Told Us That Very Emotionally'
An attorney for the Delphi double murder suspect Richard Matthew Allen, 50, called the state's probable cause affidavit "flimsy."
Correct. It's usually on the search warrant but who knows ... proescutors often makes mistakes, as they did -- and the judge did -- with the sealing of the PC
Nope I’ve lived in Indiana for some time I drop down on hill also
OK, that's VERY interesting to me. And a bit odd that he doesn't drop it it. Was he saying "Down the hill" more like a question? Things that make you go hmmmm....
Leftridge got the plea, Jennifer Dean went to trial for 8 days.
I agree that the words are chosen carefully. I also don't think it's alarming.
