IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #103

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  1. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I placed an asterisk(*) and highlighted in red the ambiguous comment about comparing sketches or photos.

    Reposted interview with updates/corrections (05/18/19)

    ISP superintendent provides update on Delphi double murder investigation

    Date of Interview: 05/16/19

    Interviewer: The quiet period ends today in the Delphi murder investigation. It has been more than two years since the murders, and two weeks since the release of new clues in the case. State police said they would wait to say more until more tips came in, and give time for the families to absorb the new information.

    Interviewer: Well, that time has passed now, and State Superintendent D. Car**r (DC) is here now. Good morning, Sir.


    DC: Good morning, S****.

    Interviewer: We've been reporting on Day Break that some 3,000 tips have come in since the release of the new information. Is any of it different? Is any of it useful?

    DC: It's all useful, and it's all--the vast majority--is different. I'm thrilled with what's happened since then, and we still have a lot of work
    to do, but we're not near done.

    Interviewer: When we first got word--it was on Friday when we first got word that there was new information. Some of the things struck me as unusual; you invited the public to this, you weren't taking questions at that point, to wait those a little bit later. And in that briefing, it seemed like you were speaking directly to whoever did this, with the sense that this person might even be in the room. Do you think that person was in the room?

    DC: I think if he wasn't in the room, he was close by, but I'm 100% convinced he was watching.

    Interviewer: Why?

    DC: Because of all that has happened over these last thirty months--the information that we had received, the information that we knew--and I hope to one day be able to tell that story.

    Interviewer: You said something during the briefing that struck me--you feel like the investigators may have talked to him. You think that at some point, or since then, one of your guys has gotten in front of this person and asked him questions, and if so, how, at that point, did it not lead to an arrest, and how could it be moving forward?

    DC: Well, I think it's likely. I think it's likely. There's a lot of opinions out there, there's a lot of subjective opinions, there's a lot of analysis
    being done, which we're trying to encourage folks to not do, those kinds of side-by-side analysis. I really believe, that over time, we're gonna have an idea that we were onto something early on. Now remember, this isn't a 43-minute TV show, we have to, we have to, we have to understand that's not just science, but it's also human intelligence, what people know.

    DC: Somebody knows whose body that is. Somebody knows. You take the head off that person, and you'll know, you'll recognize the body, whether it be your dad, your brother, your uncle, your friend, your neighbor, your coworker. That's the piece we're waiting on. I believe that we'll get there. There is an extraordinary group of people up there that's doing this work, and I believe they're gonna come to a successful resolution.

    Interviewer: You mentioned the body. In the release of video, and this is only two or three frames of video, but it shows the movement of the person. It's been asked, and I'm sure it's been asked of you as well, why not release that sooner? You knew right away you had a picture, but a picture's different than video. Why wait that long?

    DC: Yeah, a picture is different than video, and a sketch is different than a photograph. So you are right, you are absolutely correct, we'll be
    able one day to tell you what we know, and why we didn't release it. We don't want to show our hand. We don't want to show the complete picture of what we know, versus what we think. We have to be very, very careful there. Remember, it's easy to give an opinion if you don't understand the factual basis for what we've done and why. I don't mean that in a critical sense. But, we have to protect the integrity of what we know. And, geez, we're gonna stay at it.

    Interviewer: The sketch, and to be clear, and you did clarify this after, in case folks didn't hear it, you don't want them to look at both
    sketches anymore. You only want them to look at the newly-released sketch, correct?


    DC: That's correct, but remember, the sketch is not a photograph. It's something similar to a resemblance. And the likelihood of this being something between the two*, is probably pretty strong. But again, that's a subjective opinion, based on what I believe.

    Interviewer: And, certainly, you've shown frustration at the killer, at the fact that it takes a long time sometimes to find this(?)
    The families have gotta feel frustration as well. And, one question that occurs to me, if they are fielding rumor, that you've said you
    don't like, that you could head some of that off by sharing some of the grim things that the families shouldn't have to share. Why is it
    that we don't know how these girls died? Why is it that we don't know if they were sex****ly assa**ted?


    DC: Because only the killer knows that. And so do we. That's why. And you're right--the frustration of the families is something I
    can't even begin to fathom or understand. And, we've tried very, very hard to stay connected with them, throughout this thing, this process.
    But remember, a lot of people are starved for information, particularly sensationalized events like this. We can't show our hand. We
    just can't.

    Interviewer: Will there be a point when things change? Because it's been two years; you've changed strategies now, you have to be
    looking down the horizon, if you don't get the resolution you want, you may think it may be because people want to sensationalize things.
    I've heard from people close to those families who say we're tired of answering FB posts about did this happen, did that happe
    n.

    DC: I can't begin to understand their frustration. But, we can stay connected with them. And, I can't say sensationalism in a negative sense at all. Because I'm thrilled about what you've done, what you've allowed us to do today. Because this is why we'll be successful. This is why we'll be successful. But, we can't turn this into a wide-open schematic of what we know and why. We just can't. But, I believe that one day, we'll be able to.

    Interviewer: You've been involved in investigations that have lead to convictions, you've been involved in some frustrating cold cases. Do you think someone will go to trial for this case someday?

    DC: Yes.

    (General interview wrap-up)

    *What is DC comparing here? Is he comparing the first sketch to the second sketch? Or, is he comparing the second sketch to a photograph? Or, even to the video clip? Unknown at this point.
     
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  2. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    I never understood the puppy theory. We foster puppies and kittens. If he could not only abduct and kill 2 little girls without making a sound but also keep a little dog right there with him him the whole time without it running off then I've clearly underestimated his abilities.
     
  3. Quinquin

    Quinquin Pres. Titus and Eden Fan Club

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    I get what you are saying but I would disagree with the rationale of dragging out an arrest for 2 1/2 years..why?..not to mention the threat BG poses to the community as well as his family, friends, etc.
     
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    This was mentioned a few threads back. Who ever posted it I believe mentioned a song name or artist.
     
  5. cluciano63

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    Jmo there would be no reason L.e would announce an arrest until it has been made. I have never heard of that being done...maybe it has but seems unlikely. If they make an arrest, they will call a press conference.

    I almost wish they would not hold any more until then. They don’t do them very well...imo.
     
  6. hawkeyefan51

    hawkeyefan51 Well-Known Member

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    I don't mean to have the thread get side-tracked with animal theories, but I did think, for a moment, at the time we saw the first image of BG, having a cute animal could certainly entice two teen girls down a hill to play pet it, whatever. If BG could kill two innocent young girls I don't think he'd have a problem killing a puppy or goat, etc. He's evil. However, I'm sure the girls would have said something about the creepy guy with the puppy in his coat. moo
     
  7. Cutiekitty

    Cutiekitty Well-Known Member

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    I got where you were going.
     
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  8. sumzero

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    LE has poured a ton of resources into this murder investigation. The case has received more publicity than (probably) 99.9% of all criminal cases. From early on, LE put pressure on those who might know the ID of the killer. It is not for lack of effort that this case remains unsolved. But after 2+ years, it's time to make an honest appraisal. If LE still has no idea who killed these girls, they may never know. Or it may depend on the killer getting caught for another crime. I'm sure those working the case need to believe that "today" could be the day. But at some point, if no prime suspect emerges from the investigation, LE will have to scale back. It happens, unfortunately. Not all murders get solved.
     
  9. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Not all get solved and those that get solved don't always get justice. We're still awaiting an elusive arrest in the Brookelyn Farthing case here where I live. I doubt it will ever come.
     
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    Thanks, I missed that. I'll have to go back and find it. It sounds familiar but I can't "place it."
     
  11. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    I have tried and tried to make out what I hear, but cannot. I am unable to make out anything that sounds musical at all. It sounds like a horrible , screeching, fumbling with microphone noise?

    Are you slowing down or speeding up audio to hear the music?
     
  12. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Could not agree more with you. Waiting for that last PC..

    In the meantime for our new subscribers, here is the newest timeline from Inside Edition covering the case through May 13, 2019..

    The Delphi Murders: Everything We Know About Case of Abby Williams and Libby German


    .. as well as 3 images showing the Deer Creek in the crime scene area. This is the sandbar area, where the victims may have crossed the creek.

    Notice the relative visibility through the trees in the February 2012 picture. The images are from:

    5-2019
    4-2017
    2-2012

    delphi deer creek 5 2019.png
    delphi deer creek 4 2017.png
    delphi deer creek 2 2012.png

    Source: Google Earth Pro

    ALL IMO.

    -Nin
     
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  13. pepper 34

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    No, not doing anything at all. It's the 4 sounds between "guys" and "down the hill." I know how sounds, especially imo, can be heard entirely differently by different people. I can't imagine that you can't hear the music and you probably can't imagine that I can. I hear no horrible, screeching, fumbling sounds at all.... I hear a little bit of crackling of interference but it doesn't block out the 4 notes to a song I hear; not at all, probably because I'm not concentrating on anything but the 4 notes and so, everything else gets blocked out (for me.)
     
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    Its super intersting how different people see or hear different things. I can't for the life of me hear the musical notes, but I hear "Oh my god, no" being screamed by one of the girls.
     
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    I've mostly been lurking these threads (and forgive me for not being able to keep up on all 103 of them), but I just wanted to come out of the shadows temporarily because I'm a bit intrigued by this whole business with the ringtone song.

    I played the clip listening for something resembling music, and I was able to catch a shift in cadence. It still doesn't sound like anything to me other than the wind blowing through the speakers, though. I do think I caught the sound of a helicopter or some type of vehicle in the background, but I can't really make out any type of song. But my brain IS looking for it, I just can't hear it.

    Do you know the name of the song we should be looking for?
     
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    I don't want to say it and spoil it for others but I think I hear it - 90s song?

    I think we might just be doing the thing where our minds fill in the blanks to help us out though like seeing toast Jesus etc.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    I don't hear anything but what I identify as wind and rustling from walking. Sometimes people will hear things in white noise. They'll swear they hear people talking or music playing (music is the most common sound heard through it). Turn on the air conditioner or fan or dehumidifier and suddenly you swear that you can hear songs playing. It's called audio pareidolia because the brain processes the sounds as music. There have actually been studies done on it. I'm not discounting that there's something there, but I didn't hear anything at all until people started talking about it so now I can only assume that, with me, it's the power of suggestion.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Going back over Carter's "the sketch is not a photograph" and "it's a combination between the two" again...I am more convinced than ever that he wasn't saying it was a combination between the two sketches, but a combination between the sketch and the photo. I just listened to it again.
     
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    I can't hear the 4 music notes, but when I listen to the audio with headphones I can hear what some think one of the girls is screaming between guys and down the hill. In all honesty though, I don't really think that's what's on the audio. I think it's an auditory illusion.
    jmo
     
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  20. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yeah, I think it’s simply people interpreting it differently.

    I don’t hear any of those things, and logically, it doesn’t make sense that those things are there.

    Law enforcement hasn’t mentioned it.

    No one in the media has mentioned it.

    And anything in addition to “guys, down the hill,” would be a very big deal.

    Nothing to see here.
     
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