Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.14.17 - Day 15

[Kamille]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC
1m1 minute ago
Millard is now asking about "anatomical markers on bones." She responds with "what would you like to know?" #LauraBabcock

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC
39s39 seconds ago
She says they are markers that can be used to determine the species of a bone. #LauraBabcock

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC
25s26 seconds ago
Now we're seeing the photo of the alleged bones burning in the incinerator. "The interior looks similar from when you were inside the machine?" Millard asks. Correct, she answers. #LauraBabcock

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
22s23 seconds ago
Millard is asking about how to identify species of bone from the markings found on it. Now showing the photo of something burning inside the incinerator. He's pointing out the three "tubes" near bottom. #LauraBabcock

 

[Kamille]

Adam Carter‏Verified account @AdamCarterCBC
43s43 seconds ago
Millard says there were some difficulties with using this image to make determinations. She says "possibly," but asks what he means specifically. #LauraBabcock

Can't believe he'd even try with this witness. It's not like he hasn't seen her testify before.

 

[Tealgrove]

Does he really think he's going to outsmart Dr. Rogers or trip her up?

 

[Kamille]

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ag
Millard is asking about the resolution of the apparent bone at the bottom of the incinerator. Hard to see because of brightness of apparent burning. Resolution of photo makes bone ID difficult, Rogers agrees. #LauraBabcock

Oh yeah, he's going with his professional photographer certificate on the wall. Forgot about that.

 

[dar107]

That's ok, he's doing a great job of making himself look worse, and it seems he wanted that pic of the Dr. inside the incinerator shown to jury???....um wtg genius....

 

[Tealgrove]

Good Lord, we're back to that again. :banghead:

 

[Kamille]

"The resolution makes it difficult to do the identification process, right?" Millard asks. "Correct," Rogers answers.
by Adam Carter 10:33 AM

Millard now asking what "features" (basically identifying markers) Rogers used to make her determination that the objects in the photo appeared to be human bones.
by Adam Carter 10:34 AM

We're now seeing the photo Rogers showed last week, comparing a human arm bone with a deer bone.
by Adam Carter 10:35 AM

It's a human and deer humerus.
by Adam Carter 10:36 AM

 

[Kamille]

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
2m2 minutes ago
Another bone, Rogers hypothesized was a humerus arm bone, because of a notch shape. There's also a spool shape, Rogers adds. #LauraBabcock

 

[Kamille]

"Something that strikes me ... this seems to be a very different orientation between the long bone and that distal notch," Millard says, looking at the photo of the incinerator. Rogers says it depends on how you look at the image.
by Adam Carter 10:37 AM

"What I'm trying to get at is the orientation of the notch, compared to the orientation of the actual long bone. Do you understand what I'm asking?" Millard says. Rogers says she thinks she understands what he's asking, but can't really see it.
by Adam Carter 10:38 AM

 

[Kamille]

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
53s53 seconds ago
After comparing deer humerus compared to human humerus, #Millard wants to talk about details in incinerator photo. "This seems to be a different orientation, between the long bone and the distil notch," #Millard says.

 

[Kamille]

Rogers now highlighting where some of the indentations on the alleged bones in the photo are. She used these photos to make her determination that these were human bones.
by Adam Carter 10:41 AM

 

[Kamille]

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Rogers doesn't seem to agree with what #Millard thinks he sees in the photo. Some confusion about where the "notch" and "oval" of the bone appear in the photo. #LauraBabcock

 

[Kamille]

Rogers says the photo appears to be not a single bone, but a bone with some things on top of it, inside the incinerator.
by Adam Carter 10:42 AM

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
56s57 seconds ago
Rogers is drawing a red line over the bone in the photo to describe the parts of the humerus. Something else on top of the bone is confusing #Millard, it seems. #LauraBabcock

 

[Busymom4]

I think we'll take Dr Rogers opinion and expertise over his!!

 

[Kamille]

"What basis do you have to say that these are two different objects?" Millard asks. Rogers says it appears there's something on top, but its difficult to tell because of the resolution of the photo.
by Adam Carter 10:43 AM

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ago
How does she know they are two different objects, that there is something on the humerus? Dr. Rogers says the perspective makes it look that way, but the resolution of the photo is bad. #LauraBabcock

 

[Inspector_North]

Has DM been sworn in as an expert allowed to give opinion? ullhair:

 

[Kamille]

Millard now asking about her "scientific method" for looking through this photo. She says there are many methods, depending on the science. "In this kind of situation, you would want to test for a hypothesis and the alternative."
by Adam Carter 10:46 AM

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ago
The piece on top has a shadow, so that's why she thinks there are two separate objects, Rogers says. #Millard is asking what scientific method is. Rogers says it depends on the science. #LauraBabcock

 

[Tealgrove]

I love Dr. Rogers.

 

[EspressoBean]

It's hard to grasp how DM can really believe that this questioning with this witness is going to go in his favour.

 

[Kamille]

Millard asks if she ever tested to see if this was actually just one object in the incinerator. Rogers says she didn't hypothesize that. "If it were a single object, that would change the nature of your investigation?" Millard asks. Rogers says yes.
by Adam Carter 10:47 AM

Millard asks if it would have been better for her to see the bone in person. Rogers says it's quite common to work from a photograph.
by Adam Carter 10:48 AM