I recall more than one person recalling they've seen UFO's, doesn't make it so.It must exist if more than I in here recall it?
It was a female child being tortured imo rather than specifically MM .
NOTE: When quoting an outside source, a link to the source must be included in the post.It absolutely exists. It was in the early stages when he was criticized for saying Maddie was dead...he explained that they did not have absolute proof of death but that death was the only conclusion that could be drawn from their evidence
Well the HB case was being mentioned in 2007, so it wasn't the BKA who unearthed that. And one of the other cases led to CB being extradited by the Portuguese back to Germany. So the BKA didn't unearth that case either. I think it's important to not exaggerate.
And nobody's stopping the German, British and Portuguese investigators. Three years of space they've had now since they went public. It's been six years or so since they first associated CB with MM. It's been 7 1/2 years since they searched one of the locations he was associated with and found the large haul of digital material.
That's a lot of time and space, but they're still unable to bring the evidence Wolters talked about in 2020 to a court. People are entitled to ask questions about why they can't. People are entitled to wonder if the reason they can't is because what Wolters said in June 2020 was simply wrong.
(The jurisdiction issue probably hasn't helped. And it's likely pandemic restrictions slowed investigation also. That's all true but so is that even with these problems it has been a lot of time and questions can be asked. Imo they should be asked)
Well the HB case was being mentioned in 2007, so it wasn't the BKA who unearthed that. And one of the other cases led to CB being extradited by the Portuguese back to Germany. So the BKA didn't unearth that case either. I think it's important to not exaggerate.
And nobody's stopping the German, British and Portuguese investigators. Three years of space they've had now since they went public. It's been six years or so since they first associated CB with MM. It's been 7 1/2 years since they searched one of the locations he was associated with and found the large haul of digital material.
That's a lot of time and space, but they're still unable to bring the evidence Wolters talked about in 2020 to a court. People are entitled to ask questions about why they can't. People are entitled to wonder if the reason they can't is because what Wolters said in June 2020 was simply wrong.
(The jurisdiction issue probably hasn't helped. And it's likely pandemic restrictions slowed investigation also. That's all true but so is that even with these problems it has been a lot of time and questions can be asked. Imo they should be asked)
It’s not “drinking the kookaid” (derogatory inference) to be prepared as I am to give the Germans the benefit of the doubt until or unless there are solid reasons for not doing so. You will not get the answers you seek until the Germans choose to give them to you anyway so I don’t see the point in endlessly belittling or second guessing the investigation in the meantime.I agree. People should ask questions. How else would we ever get close to the truth about anything?
Believing what HCW has said despite how the investigation has unfolded is akin to continuing to drink the Koolaid IMO.
Not to undermine the seriousness of the alleged crime but two of those case don’t have identified victims… victims that haven’t come forward despite the global appeal. I can understand the difficulty victims of rape may have in coming forward but the facts, as we know them, are that CB was visible on the footage and we only know about these offences from two criminals - one of which is a convicted people smuggler and has a conviction for publicly assaulting a woman.
To say there are victims of five crime awaiting justice is inaccurate IMO.
I think this is a case of Chinese whispers, and the meaning has been incorrectly inferred from statements paraphrased in media down the years.
Rather than ‘there’s no way she could have survived’ (inference: a horrific ordeal), I suspect it alludes more to ‘based on our corroborative evidence implicating CB in MM’s abduction, we think there is no chance she could have survived’ (inference: statistically speaking).
Because the odds of survival after abduction by an unknown paedophile are well known to be vanishingly small.
“We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion.
“I can’t tell you on which basis we assume she is dead. But for us, there’s no other possibility. There is no hope she is alive.”
Prosecutor '100% convinced' suspect abducted and murdered Madeleine McCann
Asked about saying Madeleine was killed quickly, he said: “That was private opinion and speculation... without facts. I said ‘I believe’ because in cases where children were kidnapped, they made a sexual crime then killed.’”
I think the case has already been successfully made about the reasoning behind the ruling, to keep this individual safely under lock and key.I see both pov here, regarding the comparison between the OG and the German investigation.
Something JG said during OG’s investigation that struck me:
“It is important the Met don't share too much to put words in people's mouths because the evidence has to be sufficiently independent in order to be put before a court."
Madeleine McCann: German suspect profiled by former NI cop Gamble ... 'an end could be in sight' for heartbroken parents Gerry and Kate
And HCW’s stance:
‘Mr Wolters added: “The sooner we get evidence, the better for us to avoid the risk of him ever being released.
"If we find nothing new against him it could be that in seven years at the latest he may be released and leaves Germany for a country that doesn’t extradite."
The prosecutor said investigators are attempting to build the strongest case possible before trying to interrogate their chief suspect.’
Maddie suspect who raped pensioner now 'in therapy to cope with media scrutiny'
Even his lawyer admits what CB is. But he won't let his client be shoehorned into responsibility for a murder he denies/which can't be proved. The prosecutors were obviously hoping more crimes would be reported after their public appeal (maybe they have been but we just haven't heard about them yet?). Then they could have solved their problem. And the public's problem. But it can't be solved by miscarriage of justice.I think the case has already been successfully made about the reasoning behind the ruling, to keep this individual safely under lock and key.
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A spokesperson for the Oldenburg District Court told the paper: “The court ruled there were no grounds for suspending the remainder of the sentence.”
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Lead German prosecutor HCW told the Mirror: “His request was rejected on the grounds that he could not be given a positive social prognosis.
“In other words, the court has said it believes that the convict will commit further offences if released.”
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner denied parole in Germany – report
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner has had a parole application rejected in Germany, according to a report.www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk
Not to undermine the seriousness of the alleged crime but two of those case don’t have identified victims… victims that haven’t come forward despite the global appeal. I can understand the difficulty victims of rape may have in coming forward but the facts, as we know them, are that CB was visible on the footage and we only know about these offences from two criminals - one of which is a convicted people smuggler and has a conviction for publicly assaulting a woman.
To say there are victims of five crime awaiting justice is inaccurate IMO.
Even his lawyer admits what CB is. But he won't let his client be shoehorned into responsibility for a murder he denies/which can't be proved. The prosecutors were obviously hoping more crimes would be reported after their public appeal (maybe they have been but we just haven't heard about them yet?). Then they could have solved their problem. And the public's problem. But it can't be solved by miscarriage of justice.
Any case re MM will rely on the credibility of HB. Because he has prior convictions, he’s open to attack. It will be important to bolster his credibility.There is a procedure to be gone through before charges can be laid concerning the validity and weight of the evidence. In both of these cases the charge of aggravated rape has stood the test of being presented for trial.
Nota Bene, FF has not objected to either case being on the charge sheet having to rely on the procedural ploy of jurisdiction.
Tells me something that he has ignored the passage of these two alleged rapes through the legal system of which he is part.
We don't know what is going on but for sure the legal participants do, which reinforces my opinion that these are two victims whose cases will be heard. Which of us knows what complaints have been made, or if they are in police files already like so many more(eg HB). HB sought publicity for her ordeal the other two may retain anonymity because they asked for it.
We don't know but the judiciary do
Any case re MM will rely on the credibility of HB. Because he has prior convictions, he’s open to attack. It will be important to bolster his credibility.
I imagine BKA identified the 2 ladies on tape and assuming that what happened wasn’t consensual, BKA will have persuaded them to give evidence.
There may then be 3 victims (incl DM) giving credibility to HB & MS.
I think you're correct. Another quote here which backs your Chinese whispers theory up as to what he actually said and how it's probably evolved over tabloid time -
Madeleine McCann could be alive admits German prosecutor who said she was dead
EXCLUSIVE: Hans Wolters has confirmed that there is no forensic evidence to show Maddie is dead, days after devastated Kate and Gerry McCann begged for proofwww.mirror.co.uk
Yes, those are his comments (in English). On reflection, the (now dismissed) comments in that Mirror article are inconsistent to the bold message HCW has had throughout, so I’m glad he was asked to clarify. From my perspective he’s been very clear all along - MM is dead & they have evidence that proves that. So tragic!Very interesting article there, Frank, if the translation into English is actually what Wolters said. But that can't be assumed I guess. Translation can obviously be tricky.
Not because I want to defend HB (god forbid!) But just to point out that 'people smuggler' sounds quite different from what he was really caught doing...Not to undermine the seriousness of the alleged crime but two of those case don’t have identified victims… victims that haven’t come forward despite the global appeal. I can understand the difficulty victims of rape may have in coming forward but the facts, as we know them, are that CB was visible on the footage and we only know about these offences from two criminals - one of which is a convicted people smuggler and has a conviction for publicly assaulting a woman.
To say there are victims of five crime awaiting justice is inaccurate IMO.
Let's just keep the only quote of the articleSorry if you already have this: HCW said suspect could be freed before probe ends.
Fresh blow in Madeleine McCann case as suspect could be freed before probe ends