Madeleine McCann - Netflix documentary on this case

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Eezer Goode said:
It wasn't their money it was either donations or taxpayers money. They have to keep up the pretense in order for people to assume their innocence based on this. They don't need to have any body hiding skills as they employed the help of the British government, The Met police and several other agencies. MI5, for example, would have no trouble hiding a body.



Employees didn't quit, they were all sacked. Every employee that was working at the Tapas that night has been sacked and so too the cleaners that cleaned the apartment.
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I’m with you for most of your posts. But what is so important about the MCCanns that they can enlist government and MI5 help?
 
mrjitty said:
I guess the police were too busy drinking beer and having slap up fish lunches.
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No, the police knew exactly who was involved from the outset but the investigation was hampered at every turn by British authorities. Without the cooperation of the British police their hands are tied. What should they do, go on a wild goose chase all over the world under direction from the only and obvious suspects?
 
Plod said:
I’m with you for most of your posts. But what is so important about the MCCanns that they can enlist government and MI5 help?
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I don't know but they did. The prime minister got involved immediately and their PR man was a senior media consultant for the government and other agencies for over 30 years. These are the facts and indicate a high level of protection from the onset so there must be a reason. I admit i slipped the MI5 bit in there as there is no evidence as far as i know that they were involved but it is surely not a complete stab in the dark to assume that they wouldn't get involved if need be?
 
Plod said:
I haven’t seen the documentary. I have until recently been adamant that the parents didn’t do it. Then I started watching clips online. I saw an interview with the mother, who described how she had discovered that M was missing. It was regarding the door to the bedroom. So they had gone to dinner, then according to theirs account of the night, one of men checked but didn’t go in. Next Gerry checked and had stood thinking how beautiful M looked. Then Kate went back, was not even going to look in the bedroom (despite not having seen her three infants in nearly three hours - maternal instinct?). But then she noticed door was open when she had closed it before going to dinner, so she went in. I thought this odd because of course if Gerry was back at the apartment before she was, he had opened the door. So she’s making odd comments re the door, what else is she making up?
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Yes, all of their interviews are very telling. I liked it when Gerry likened finding out Madeleine was missing to going to the ATM and realising you're overdrawn on your student loan! Many talk about the lack of emotion shown but, for me, i don't care if Kate is in floods of tears or not. What does bother me is the way she constantly shrugs her shoulders and curls her lip up when there is any hint of criticism aimed at her.
 
Eezer Goode said:
I don't know but they did. The prime minister got involved immediately and their PR man was a senior media consultant for the government and other agencies for over 30 years. These are the facts and indicate a high level of protection from the onset so there must be a reason. I admit i slipped the MI5 bit in there as there is no evidence as far as i know that they were involved but it is surely not a complete stab in the dark to assume that they wouldn't get involved if need be?
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I’m not sure they had any assistance. I think PMs have offered support purely as a crowd pleaser.
The Irish family were certain it was GM carrying.a child towards the beach that evening . I reckon that’s how he got rid of her, and why they took many walks on the beach whilst they were there.

I think GM is controlling, he’s a heart surgeon so will have the personality that takes risks with peoples lives.
 
Plod said:
I’m not sure they had any assistance. I think PMs have offered support purely as a crowd pleaser.
The Irish family were certain it was GM carrying.a child towards the beach that evening . I reckon that’s how he got rid of her, and why they took many walks on the beach whilst they were there.

I think GM is controlling, he’s a heart surgeon so will have the personality that takes risks with peoples lives.
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That's all fair enough, you could be right. However, they have certainly received a great amount of financial assistance and a great deal of help in spinning the story. It is reported as fact that the Irish couple were only slightly sure it was Gerry and have since decided they were mistaken when, in reality, they remain convinced it was him and are frustrated at the way the media have spun their story.

There is obviously an attempt to keep the McCanns away from suspicion otherwise the Portuguese police investigation would be treated with the respect it deserves and the McCanns tried based on the evidence.
 
Eezer Goode said:
That's all fair enough, you could be right. However, they have certainly received a great amount of financial assistance and a great deal of help in spinning the story. It is reported as fact that the Irish couple were only slightly sure it was Gerry and have since decided they were mistaken when, in reality, they remain convinced it was him and are frustrated at the way the media have spun their story.

There is obviously an attempt to keep the McCanns away from suspicion otherwise the Portuguese police investigation would be treated with the respect it deserves and the McCanns tried based on the evidence.
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Maybe his work and research into heart issues is so pioneering that someone important is prepared to cover up whatever has happened. Ironic really.
 
Eezer Goode said:
I doubt any episode would contain such information as it was a whitewash like all official McCann documentaries. The photo of Madeleine in full make up has been printed several times. The doctors (didn't know they were Indian but assuming i'm talking about the same ones) made a formal complaint to police about inappropriate behaviour from Gerry and his pal toward the children way before Maddie went missing.
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The photo of her in makeup was shared ages after. They said it was her playing but it was professionally done and a bit creepy. Remember the girl wouldn’t be able to hold a crayon let alone do blusher, eye shadow, lipstick and eye liner. You then have to ask why she was dressed that way...

The cameras were seized on day one when their entourage turned up. They were brought back to uk and given to a digital specialist. When the police asked for the images, they were given a black and white printout which (by numbering) showed images had been deleted and several were repeated. Again it could be innocent but they refused to provide this.

I did say Indian doctors as I believed their surname was an Indian name. I don’t know this for certain but they did report two members of the group on a previous holiday for inappropriate and sexualised comments towards kids. Could be a bad taste joke gone wrong, but it was enough for them to report it to the police.
 
Eezer Goode said:
No, the police knew exactly who was involved from the outset but the investigation was hampered at every turn by British authorities. Without the cooperation of the British police their hands are tied. What should they do, go on a wild goose chase all over the world under direction from the only and obvious suspects?
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;) I think it was 'sarcasm'!
 
Incidentally the home office have announced another year of funding for the case to chase up on yet another new lead. Shame when I called my police to check on my dad (who had suffered a fall and later died in hospital) I got a call back 30 minutes later to say they didn’t have the resources and I would have to drive the 80 miles to perform my own checks We all need media spin doctors I guess...
 
Hi all- hope this is alright, I'm a newbie to these forums.

I became interested in Maddie's case after watching the Netflix documentary and it's what finally drew me to join websleuths because I wanted more opinions and info on the case (although not a newbie to true crime). I see a lot of people knocking the documentary. Would you guys be willing to direct me to other places to learn more about the case in media format (ie- podcasts, documentaries, books) that you see as more accurate to the story?

At this time I'm not sure how I feel about the allegations against the McCanns. One thing that keeps coming back is how could a parent leave their child alone like that? I am not a parent, however a huge Disney fan. I am consistently surprised at how many adults leave their children alone, sleeping, in Disney hotels when they go back to the parks. I, personally, would never do that, if I had children, but wanted to add that a lot of parents see it as completely fine, so just something to ponder.
 
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TedERoosevelt said:
Hi all- hope this is alright, I'm a newbie to these forums.

I became interested in Maddie's case after watching the Netflix documentary and it's what finally drew me to join websleuths because I wanted more opinions and info on the case (although not a newbie to true crime). I see a lot of people knocking the documentary. Would you guys be willing to direct me to other places to learn more about the case in media forum (ie- podcasts, documentaries, books) that you see as more accurate to the story?

At this time I'm not sure how I feel about the allegations against the McCanns. One thing that keeps coming back is how could a parent leave their child alone like that? I am not a parent, however a huge Disney fan. I am consistently surprised at how many adults leave their children alone, sleeping, in Disney hotels when they go back to the parks. I, personally, would never do that, if I had children, but wanted to add that a lot of parents see it as completely fine, so just something to ponder.
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Check this podcast out, I have found it the best for information:

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‎Maddie on Apple Podcasts
 
I also watched the documentary and i’m 50/50 on wether this was a kidnapping. I can’t seem to get past the fact they left small children alone every night and yet they had nanny services available to them. Why not use them? They certainly had the financial means. I know it was said they felt like they were dining/drinking in their back yard but I saw the maps of the place. That was no back yard. The timeline on checking on the kids also makes no sense to me. At any rate, even if they had nothing to do with their disappearance IMO they are responsible for it. I’m amazed they have never been held accountable for negligence.

ETA: and if they had planned to leave them why not have a video baby monitor with them? Everyone has those these days. That’s what we have used in the past when we are at the beach and hanging out back.
 
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TedERoosevelt said:
Hi all- hope this is alright, I'm a newbie to these forums.

I became interested in Maddie's case after watching the Netflix documentary and it's what finally drew me to join websleuths because I wanted more opinions and info on the case (although not a newbie to true crime). I see a lot of people knocking the documentary. Would you guys be willing to direct me to other places to learn more about the case in media format (ie- podcasts, documentaries, books) that you see as more accurate to the story?

At this time I'm not sure how I feel about the allegations against the McCanns. One thing that keeps coming back is how could a parent leave their child alone like that? I am not a parent, however a huge Disney fan. I am consistently surprised at how many adults leave their children alone, sleeping, in Disney hotels when they go back to the parks. I, personally, would never do that, if I had children, but wanted to add that a lot of parents see it as completely fine, so just something to ponder.
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Well it’s not fine. And in the US it’s illegal.
 
Plod said:
I haven’t seen the documentary. I have until recently been adamant that the parents didn’t do it. Then I started watching clips online. I saw an interview with the mother, who described how she had discovered that M was missing. It was regarding the door to the bedroom. So they had gone to dinner, then according to theirs account of the night, one of men checked but didn’t go in. Next Gerry checked and had stood thinking how beautiful M looked. Then Kate went back, was not even going to look in the bedroom (despite not having seen her three infants in nearly three hours - maternal instinct?). But then she noticed door was open when she had closed it before going to dinner, so she went in. I thought this odd because of course if Gerry was back at the apartment before she was, he had opened the door. So she’s making odd comments re the door, what else is she making up?
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Yes that was one of my first thoughts was how does she not think that Mayb one of the men left the door opened on one of their “checks”? My next thought was who automatically thinks kidnapping when your small child is out of their bed? I would have automatically assumed she was out wondering somewhere looking for me.
 
We only have the claims of the group of friends as to what the checking arrangements were, and they don't reconcile with each other very well between the versions.

I myself am sceptical as to whether these arrangements really existed - at least in the claimed form.
 
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