GUILTY MI - Katherine 'Kate' Phillips, 4 mos, Ludington, 29 June 2011 (Deceased/Not Found)

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  1. Lovejac

    Lovejac Well-Known Member

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    Oh God! I have a bad feeling after reading this.

    Now we know why they were fighting. Poor baby Kate :(
     


  2. TxLady2

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    Not gentle... he needs LE to come down on him pretty hard, this is a little helpless baby!! I don't usually condone police brutality, but when it comes to missing kids, they need to get rough on these suspects.
     
  3. TxLady2

    TxLady2 Well-Known Member

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    The article a few posts up said the mother was 19? And she already has a 3 or 4 year old with this guy? And he didn't want to tell his parents about this baby? What is wrong with this picture?
    I am just coming into this case, but this is so sad. She is saying he's a good father but he wanted her to give the baby up for adoption. And he's a nice guy. ~thud~
    Makes me wonder if she isn't in on this disappearance or knows more than she's saying.
    I say, put the pressure on her and on the grandparents, somebody knows something!!
     
  4. jackieblue

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    Pretty sure the older child has a different mother.
     
  5. justanother

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    The small window between the apartment and wendy's is bothering me. Google maps says it takes 5 minutes to get to Wendy's. How could he hide that baby so well in the extra 5 minutes he had? I am wondering if she was still in the car when he went to Wendy's. Or is the leaving the Apartment story fake?

    Also, Wendy's is right across from Mason County Airport, at first i though he dropped her off there but like many i am now thinking he just lost it.
     
  6. justanother

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    Okay, i just read a few different times for the Wendy's visit, 1-2 PM, 2-4 PM, so pretty much i don't think we have an exact time but the 1:20 PM would fit with a route to his parents. I hope they find out more today in Court.
     
  7. justanother

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  8. shefner

    shefner Member Since 2008

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    At least he's in jail a little longer...

    Things are not looking good in this case and all this child abuse is getting to me. I do not understand it....at all.
    Praying for little Baby Kate....
     
  9. mkay882

    mkay882 ~~~Roll Tide~~~

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    I agree!
    I'd be telling him 'You were right. We'll give her away' etc
    Anything he might want to hear in the hope I could get a clue to where my baby was.
    I'd promise him the moon and try and lasso the stars.. :(
     
  10. mkay882

    mkay882 ~~~Roll Tide~~~

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    Alas in the justice system of the USA, the moment someone becomes a victim (baby Kate), the perp (alleged dad) has all the rights afforded to them.
    We make the laws (allow them to be passed) and now must follow them.
    Even at times when speed is of the essence.
     
  11. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    We need a law that once you're arrested for kidnapping, if you don't give the child's location within 2 hours, you get another charge thrown on you, with a good stiff penalty. Or why don't they toss on an extra charge of child endangerment? Not talking is putting the child at great risk of harm.

    I HATE it that they won't say where the child is. There are so many of them.

    Sorry. Just blowing off steam.
     
  12. TxLady2

    TxLady2 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but there are ways of questioning a suspect that doesn't involve getting physical. If he knows where this baby is, he can be persuaded to talk if they use the right approach. I have a feeling his parents know something, too, and just want to protect him.
    I am guessing that he "sold" this baby. Just a feeling I have, I hope I'm wrong.
     
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    If you are thinking sex market....I have been fighting my brain to not go there.

    I wish they could just use Sodium Pentathol when a child is missing and thought to be alive but endangered.
     
  14. justanother

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  15. Miziree

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    Oh. Well that sparks alot of other questions. Where was the other daughter if she wasnt in the car too? How did they hide a second pregnancy from his parents, with a kid already you'd think they would be around his parents? It is all weird. I just hope they find her.
     
  17. Miziree

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    I was wondering the same thing too about where the other child was at the time.Maybe with his parents? I haven't read anything about where she was.

    The parents did know about the baby, see below

    here is the link:

    http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2011/07/mother_of_missing_ludington_ba.html

    Courtland said Phillips, 21, now charged with kidnapping in connection with the baby's disappearance, has always known he is the father of Katherine Shelbie-Elizabeth Phillips, but didn't have the heart to tell his parents.
    Courtland said Tuesday that Phillips' parents have never met the infant, but are aware she exists.
    “I wanted him to take a DNA test that day because he didn't want to tell his parents that Kate is his. I was sick of it and said, 'Forget it, I'm not going to keep lying to your parents,' and we figured if he gets the paternity test, then we could show his parents the piece of paper,” Courtland said.
    But Phillips — already jointly raising the couple's 3 1/2-year-old daughter, Haley, and preparing to be deployed to Afghanistan in August — didn't want to tell his parents about the new baby, she said.

    Such a weird case is right! I hope they find this baby girl..
     
  18. fedfan4life

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    I wonder if anyone has thought to get his commanding officer in there to talk to him? Many soldiers are taught - often engrained - to follow the instructions of a military superior. If he is ordered to disclose the whereabouts of the baby by someone outranking him, he may talk.
     
  19. BeanE

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    Oh I love love LOVE that idea fedfan!!!! Why don't you call the LE handling the case and suggest it to them? I think it's brilliant!!!
     
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