Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 7 *D. Stewart guilty*

[BeanE]

It is clear from this video that the walmart evidence is the reciept, and it doesn't involve video footage. I'm sceptical of the value of their eye witness placing him in MI on monday morning, since it sounds like this person came forward weeks afterwards. If they didn't personally know him there is no way they would recall seeing a stranger a couple of weeks earlier and remember enough to identify them.

I'm thinking that Risko is just fishing, throwing stuff out there in the hopes that something might happen. What he has been doing over the last few weeks doesn't seem like a professional way to handle an investigation anyway. Unless he is just a talking head that LE sticks out there to handle PR and doesn't really know what is going on.

It's not clear to me. That video has a reporter saying a few things about the Walmart receipt, and LE (Risko) says nothing at all about Walmart or the receipt. LE (Risko) also says nothing about a witness in MI on Monday morning.

To me, it's important that I not let myself be influenced by the media and their retelling and their mistakes and their spin and the whole 'crimetainment' industry mess. I go for direct quotes. What the media says that someone says, even when they give direct quotes, is not always what the person actually said.

 

[BeanE]

There is nothing new under the sun.

This alibi scenario reminds me of the Brothers case. Vincent Brothers lived in CA with his wife and children. Vincent went to Ohio to visit relatives and while he was in Ohio his wife and children were murdered in CA. Credit card transactions and statements from relatives proved Vincent was in Ohio at the time of the crime. His brother Melvin later admitted it was him using Vincent's credit card and ID in Ohio while his brother Vincent went to CA, killed his family, and returned to Ohio.

Here's an article about that case.

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070222/news_1n22brothers.html

Very interesting! Thank you for posting that., CharlestonGal.

 

[BeanE]

It seems as though the MSP have all they need on DS. And it seems a bit cavalier or "putting out fire with gasoline" not to arrest him and place him in custody and deny him bail at the earliest opportunity rather than to delineate all the evidence against DS (paint him into a corner) while DS is still free and able to kill again. If he's killed once...

I've wanted this guy arrested since I first read about this case, what's the hold-up now?

I have concerns also about LE not making earlier arrests. I understand their need for evidence, and the legal process, and the legal concerns, but I worry about the risk to public safety. It must be a difficult balancing act, and I don't envy them and prosecutors who have to make these decisions on when to arrest.

In this specific case, I worry about a possible danger to the Stewart children, as well as to Venus' parents. I'm glad the children are in hiding, and I hope they are hidden well. I wish Venus' parents would get out of town until Doug is under arrest.

 

[Calliope]

See the article you quoted and linked above. It was a reporter who said that, not LE.

Yeeeesssssss, and the reporter said, "police say that for up to 48 hours prior to that time at least one person, possibly more"

Not to many ways to spin or misunderstand "more".

 

[BeanE]

For Reference: Direct Quotes from LE June 1 & 2, 2010

Risko: “The people he had contact with in that office that morning hadn’t seen Douglas Stewart before,” Risko said. “We know this person made multiple appearances in Virginia as Doug Stewart during this narrow timeline. But we now know Mr. Stewart was not in Virginia.”
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/06/impostor_posed_as_doug_stewart.html

Risko: “We can place him in Michigan now,” said Risko, declining to elaborate on what evidence investigators have turned up. “He had an alibi that he was in Virginia when Venus disappeared and we learned pretty soon that his alibi didn’t hold up. First we were able to place him at a Walmart in Ohio. We know his alibi is fraudulent.”
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/06/impostor_posed_as_doug_stewart.html

Filer: Meanwhile, Newport News Police Detective Todd Filer said his agency has “collected some evidence and conducted some interviews” in connection with the person who is suspected to have impersonated Douglas Stewart.
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/06/impostor_posed_as_doug_stewart.html

Filer: “We’ve been in contact with investigators from Michigan pretty much on a daily basis,” Filer said. “We’re vested in this case just like they are in Michigan. We’re hoping for people to come forward and provide us evidence.”
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/06/impostor_posed_as_doug_stewart.html

Filer: "He provided Michigan State police investigators with an alibi at that time," said Newport News Detective Todd Filer. "At this point we have reason to believe that there may have been someone that posed as Mr. Stewart in our area to provide that alibi."
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigators-question-husband's-alibi

Filer: Investigators have not released details about why they believe Douglas was in Michigan, but they are asking "anybody that has any information about someone posing as Douglas Stewart in the area between April 25 and April 26, around the time of Venus Stewart's, disappearance to contact us," Filer said.
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigators-question-husband's-alibi

Risko: “His alibi was he was in Virginia the whole time,” said Lt. Mike Risko, Michigan State Police, “well, we know that's not the case.”
http://www.wwmt.com/articles/margin-1377226-page-imposter.html

Risko: “We have learned here recently that he was in Michigan that morning,” said Lt. Risko. “What was confusing is that we had sightings of him in Virginia during this time period.”
http://www.wwmt.com/articles/margin-1377226-page-imposter.html

Risko: “We believe that he was pretending to be Mr. Stewart or impersonating Mr. Stewart at a number of different businesses, paying bills, drawing funds, things of that nature,” said Lt. Risko. “He probably must have had a number of Doug Stewart's personal documents.”
http://www.wwmt.com/articles/margin-1377226-page-imposter.html

Risko: "So, his alibi being in Virginia doesn't hold water," said Lt. Mike Risko of the Michigan State Police. "He was not in Virginia at that time. It was also recently learned last week that we also now have him in Michigan the morning she disappeared."
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Is-there-a-Doug-Stewart-impersonator

Risko: "Well, we believe he was dressed similar to what Doug would have been wearing -- a hoodie, a sweatshirt with a dark ball cap and a pair of sunglasses," Risko said.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Is-there-a-Doug-Stewart-impersonator

Risko: "Someone in Newport News, Virginia -- during the time period that Venus came up missing -- was purporting to be Doug Stewart. We know that's not the case. What we're looking for (is) that person or persons that were impersonating Doug Stewart in that time frame."
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Is-there-a-Doug-Stewart-impersonator

Risko: "Our policy is, we're not going to call him a suspect until we have an arrest warrant in our hands," Risko said
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Is-there-a-Doug-Stewart-impersonator

Calliope - there's a direct quote, second from last in the list above, of Risko saying person or persons impersonating. Elvis convention

 

[Calliope]

I watched the video and listened carefully more than once. I didn't hear Risko say that.

Here's what I heard Risko say:

"He was not in Virginia at that time. It was recently learned, last week, that we also have him now in Michigan the morning that she was, she disappeared."

In the video with this article, Risko says:

"We had learned here recently of some information I can't go into right now that he was in Michigan that morning."

http://www.wwmt.com/articles/margin-1377226-page-imposter.html

According to police, a person allegedly spotted Stewart on Monday April 26th...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iLqDzllxmc&feature=player_embedded

 

[BeanE]

Yeeeesssssss, and the reporter said, "police say that for up to 48 hours prior to that time at least one person, possibly more"

Not to many ways to spin or misunderstand "more".



cough *substantiated* cough

I substantiated for you what LE (Risko) did actually say.

 

[BeanE]

According to police, a person allegedly spotted Stewart on Monday April 26th...

I didn't hear Risko say that.

 

[Calliope]

That article has been updated, and both the reporter's reference to Doug being back home at 8:00, and the reporter's reference to there being more than one imposter, have been removed.

http://www.wwmt.com/articles/margin-1377226-page-imposter.html

There's now nothing about Doug being back in Virginia, or 8:00, and the articles refers to one imposter:

but police say it wasn't Doug, but rather an imposter and a new person of interest in the case.

Hmm... a lot more than just the time and reference to multiple imposters was removed. I don't believe for a minute that a reporter made up such detail. And usually, a report that's been edited contains additional information, or corrections to what's already been posted, NOT such a complete removal of so much specific information. Also, I clicked on "full version" and saw the same thing. Makes me wonder if the police told the reporter information off the record that somehow got posted online. I googled phrases from the more detailed article and that was posted as I had it above in a number of places, so it's not something someone just *made up*.

I might try emailing the reporter and asking him what the heck is up with deleting all that information.

 

[Calliope]

I didn't hear Risko say that.

I didn't hear CPS or a therapist say the sexual abuse allegations against DS were substantiated either

The reporter says "police say", and then goes on to state that a person saw DS in MI that morning. That was also in at least a couple of other articles that were flying around yesterday. I doubt all these separate reporters were in cahoots to disseminate a lie.

 

[Calliope]

I substantiated for you what LE (Risko) did actually say.

Yes, thank you. That verifies what I posted.

 

[BeanE]

Hmm... a lot more than just the time and reference to multiple imposters was removed. I don't believe for a minute that a reporter made up such detail. And usually, a report that's been edited contains additional information, or corrections to what's already been posted, NOT such a complete removal of so much specific information. Also, I clicked on "full version" and saw the same thing. Makes me wonder if the police told the reporter information off the record that somehow got posted online. I googled phrases from the more detailed article and that was posted as I had it above in a number of places, so it's not something someone just *made up*.

I might try emailing the reporter and asking him what the heck is up with deleting all that information.

I googled too, and we even had the 8:00 reference quoted from the article and the link posted in here. I think the reporter either misunderstood what the LEO said, or the LEO was giving the reporter off the record info and he/she inadvertently published it.

What it said was that Doug was back home in VA by 8pm that night. We know from previous reports that LE contacted Doug that evening. I wonder if LE is now questioning whether the LEO who contacted Doug that evening was actually talking with Doug.

If it was by phone, how would they know it was actually Doug? If a LEO went to his apartment in VA, never having seen Doug before, if it was someone who looked similar to whatever picture they had (if indeed they had a picture of him), would they even question who it was they were talking to? Particularly if the person provided a photo id and there was a similarity. If indeed they were even asked to show a photo id.

Maybe LE wants to leave the door open at this point just in case Doug wasn't back in VA by 8pm.

Or... maybe when the reporter was making their updates to the article, they just accidentally deleted that line.

 

[believe09]

That has to be one of the dumbest things I've read from a report. If this person was doing what LE say he was doing, he WILL be facing serious charges, there is no "could" about it.

You dont think that he might be offered immunity to give up what he knows?

 

[Calliope]

I googled too, and we even had the 8:00 reference quoted from the article and the link posted in here. I think the reporter either misunderstood what the LEO said, or the LEO was giving the reporter off the record info and he/she inadvertently published it.

What it said was that Doug was back home in VA by 8pm that night. We know from previous reports that LE contacted Doug that evening. I wonder if LE is now questioning whether the LEO who contacted Doug that evening was actually talking with Doug.

If it was by phone, how would they know it was actually Doug? If a LEO went to his apartment in VA, never having seen Doug before, if it was someone who looked similar to whatever picture they had (if indeed they had a picture of him), would they even question who it was they were talking to? Particularly if the person provided a photo id and there was a similarity. If indeed they were even asked to show a photo id.

Maybe LE wants to leave the door open at this point just in case Doug wasn't back in VA by 8pm.

Or... maybe when the reporter was making their updates to the article, they just accidentally deleted that line.

It was far more than that line though. That was a pretty detailed article, all the stuff about the 48 hours prior to her disappearance, and so on. I really believe that wasn't intended to be published at all. I wonder if LE gave the reporter that information, but asked he hold onto it for the time being... or maybe it was off the record. Either way, that wasn't simply an edit. Because of that mistake, I think we now know a lot more about what happened that weekend and Monday than LE ever intended, at least at this point in the case.

 

[believe09]

If I were NN PD, I would be looking through their UID's to see if one matches the physical description of DS. If we are going to take this conspiracy theory all they way through, I cannot imagine DS leaving that loose end. (This is pure speculation, btw)

 

[Calliope]

You dont think that he might be offered immunity to give up what he knows?

Unless he had a hand in harming Venus.

 

[Calliope]

If I were NN PD, I would be looking through their UID's to see if one matches the physical description of DS. If we are going to take this conspiracy theory all they way through, I cannot imagine DS leaving that loose end. (This is pure speculation, btw)

It wouldn't make this case any stranger, that's for sure.

 

[Calliope]

I wonder if the imposter has an alibi? And who impersonated him?

 

[Calliope]

Dear MSP,

http://www.movers.com/auto-transport/va-virginia/newport-news.html

Love,

Calliope


p.s. No thanks necessary. I'm here to help.

Toodles!

 

[mtrooper]

Dear MSP,

http://www.movers.com/auto-transport/va-virginia/newport-news.html

Love,

Calliope


p.s. No thanks necessary. I'm here to help.

Toodles!

....Priceless.

I love it.

I didn't know the MSP could take so long to go and get a vehicle. I guess the whole time is of an essence is not the case here. I have to be honest here, not the first ball that MSP has dropped. We have a case from 1979, where we know the BF killed his GF, but never searched his vehicle either, or found her remains for that matter.