GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died in custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #19 - Chauvin Jury Deliberations #2

[ilovewings]

Pelosi faces intense backlash after thanking George Floyd for 'sacrificing your life for justice'

Critics from both sides of the aisle blasted Pelosi's tone-deaf remarks.

"Nancy Pelosi thanks George Floyd for being murdered," Huffington Post editor Philip Lewis summed up.

"What in the actual f," New York Post columnist Karol Markowicz reacted.

"Ummm... he didn’t sacrifice his life... he was brutally, horrifically murdered. What the hell is this," Guardian writer Hannah Parkinson tweeted.

"Sacrifice implies he had a choice," LA Times reporter Melissa Evans similarly wrote.

Pelosi faces intense backlash after thanking George Floyd for 'sacrificing your life for justice'

Good grief: what a poor choice of words--- Some of these politicians just need to stop talking.

 

[kittythehare]

While he technically may be a first time offender, I think his past record of complaints which were never followed up shows an egregious pattern of misconduct. However, due to systemic flaws he was never held accountable until now.

I hope that is taken into account during his sentencing.

It will be on some of these matters
EXPLAINER: What next after Chauvin's conviction on 3 counts?

ut in this case, prosecutors are seeking a sentence that goes above the guideline range, called an “upward departure.” They cited several aggravating factors, including that Floyd was particularly vulnerable, that Chauvin was a uniformed officer acting in a position of authority, and that his crime was witnessed by multiple children — including a 9-year-old girl who testified that watching the restraint made her “sad and kind of mad.”

After the verdicts, Attorney General Keith Ellison said his office would be seeking a “fair” and “just” sentence. He would not be specific, but said: “We believe there are aggravating factors and the sentence should exceed the sentencing guidelines.”

 

[kaen]

Why do these relatives continue to work for a department that condones this horrible behavior? I assume that they have filed complaints with supervisors that have not been resolved. Time to find a department that doesn't allow that kind of behavior from their officers. JMO

They work in their community so it is not so simple to change departments. They don't or won't be rats (also part of the problem I know). We all know how the blue wall works for those in the departments and those outside of the department. Most important in this is that I have always wanted my loved ones to come home alive at the end of their shift---so they have done what is needed to get along and make sure they are not left without their brethren. AND, this is why policy changes need to be made in many areas of departments. It is unusual to have what the MN officers did in coming out against this killer. We need policies that make it more realistic to do what is right and speak out.

 

[margarita25]

For some reason I listened to Tucker Carlson's comments on the trial and I'm just speechless.

(Ew, passing brain bleach)

 

[Tom_Servo]

IMO, there is a tremendous need for policing policy changes. There are issues with the use of force, de-escalation, and more. The chief in Minneapolis believes there is need for change. Many communities and departments have declared a need for change.

I agree about monitoring trainings and better hiring but would add an easier pathway to getting rid of bad LE officers.

As I have said, I have relatives who are LE. They openly talk about the bad or sloppy or racist or unstable LE they know. They won't partner with them. They work hard to steer clear of them for fear of being caught in the crossfire-- literally and figuratively. Some people are not meant to be in this line of work and there has to be ways of separating from them before tragedy strikes.

Testimony against Chauvin indicated if he had followed policy GF would be alive. The testimony would have us believe if all officers followed approved policy policing would be better. I agree with that. The Minneapolis Chief hasn't presented any "drastic" changes. There is no need for drastic changes. There is a tremendous need for police to follow existing procedures.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Statement of Attorney General Merrick B. Garland on the Verdict in the Chauvin Trial

US Attorney General Garland makes an official statement, plus a reminder that they will be investigating further.

Statement of Attorney General Merrick B. Garland on the Verdict in the Chauvin Trial
U.S. Attorney General Merrick B. Garland's statement following the verdict in the state of Minnesota's trial of Derek Chauvin:

"The jury in the state trial of Derek Chauvin has fulfilled its civic duty and rendered a verdict convicting him on all counts. While the state’s prosecution was successful, I know that nothing can fill the void that the loved ones of George Floyd have felt since his death. The Justice Department has previously announced a federal civil rights investigation into the death of George Floyd. This investigation is ongoing."

BBM

 

[jjs]

I know I've been quite vocal about bad cops and interactions, but good cops do exist. I am not ACAB in the sense it generally means, but I do believe silence is compliance and the good ones do need to speak out. I understand the various reasons they don't, but I hope maybe this changes some of that.

I will give props to most of the ones I've had interactions with (again, I pass as white so I'm sure if I didn't I may have had different experiences). I did have one situation where my daughter was in the middle of a severe mental health crisis and they handled her very roughly. To the point she now won't even report her ex boyfriends severe physical and sexual abuse of her. Because she never wants to interact with them again. And I don't blame her, I was horrified at the way she was treated. But for the most part, the cops here have been fantastic and friendly and seem like some of the good ones.

 

[SBops]

Testimony against Chauvin indicated if he had followed policy GF would be alive. The testimony would have us believe if all officers followed approved policy policing would be better. I agree with that. The Minneapolis Chief hasn't presented any "drastic" changes. There is no need for drastic changes. There is a tremendous need for police to follow existing procedures.

I am sorry, but I disagree. There should be much more emphasis put on de-escalation. It seems to be entirely lacking in most of US police forces.

 

[kittythehare]

Here's the full list of aggravators cc Mary Moriarty

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgo...s/27-CR-20-12646/NoticebyAttorney08282020.pdf

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I just cried so hardThis last hour my heart was beating so fast,” Frazier wrote on Facebook in response to the verdict. “I was so anxious, anxiety bussing through the roof. But to know GUILTY ON ALL 3 CHARGES !!! THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOUGeorge Floyd we did it!!justice has been served”

Frazier was one of the prosecution’s witnesses who took the stand in Chauvin’s nearly three-week trial. She recalled the life-changing incident through tears, and said she wish she could’ve done more to help Floyd.

“When I look at George Floyd, I look at my dad, I look at my brothers, I look at my cousins, my uncles, because they’re all Black,” Frazier. “I have a Black father. I have a Black brother. I have Black friends. And I look at that and I look at how that could have been one of them … It’s been nights I stayed up apologizing and apologizing to George Floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting and not saving his life. But it’s like, it’s not what I should have done, it’s what he should have done.”
People Are Thanking Darnella Frazier, Teen Who Recorded George Floyd’s Murder, Following Chauvin Verdict

 

[jjs]

Poor Darnella. I hope she can find some peace. She was absolutely instrumental in this. She did what she could and it was astronomical, even if she thinks she could have been more. Without her, there wouldn't even have been a trial, IMO.

 

[MTW2011]

Now that we have a verdict, I'm going back and looking at some media reports that were from very early on in all of this.

Here's a clip from CBS, where a previous coworker of GF says that GF and Chauvin (who both worked at the same club at some point)....I was always curious why this seemed to be picked up by only some media, reported on a bit, and then not really reported on again much at all. Coworker thought Chauvin knew who GF was when he arrived on-scene. The club owner also described Chauvin as being "aggressive towards minority customers"

His coworker said they "bumped heads" and that DC was "extremely aggressive" before to patrons, and there was a situation where Chauvin was upset over his paycheck and how much he was paid and blamed George Floyd" for it. The manager there allegedly gave the paychecks in person to the inside employees but the outside employees, like Chauvin, got theirs from the inside employees (like GF who worked inside). I wonder if State will try to bring that up in sentencing ....?

Clip from CBS This Morning, they posted on FB--- George Floyd and Derek Chauvin "bumped heads" while working at nightclub, former coworker says

 

[branmuffin]

Theres little need for many changes in policing policy. What can be hoped for is better decisions by officers, more closely monitored training so officers adhere to policy and better hiring practices.

Do you remember this lady? She has the unique advantage of driving around wearing body armour shooting at random vehicles and pedestrians yet managed to be taken alive. And not only that the poor thing eluded a heavy sentence because she was deemed not guilty by reason of insanity. But, IMO, her most unique advantage was that she was white. Policy has nothing to do with it.

Woman accused of driving around Hixson shooting found not guilty by reason of insanity

 

[SBops]

Do you remember this lady? She has the unique advantage of driving around wearing body armour shooting at random vehicles and pedestrians yet managed to be taken alive. And not only that the poor thing eluded a heavy sentence because she was deemed not guilty by reason of insanity. But, IMO, her most unique advantage was that she was white. Policy has nothing to do with it.

Woman accused of driving around Hixson shooting found not guilty by reason of insanity

Do you remember this lady? She was obviously mentally ill and hurt no one except for drivers having to avoid her, but this officer decided she needed over a dozen punches to her head. That is not how you police.
California cop beats woman repeatedly on the freeway

 

[branmuffin]

Do you remember this lady? She was obviously mentally ill and hurt no one except for drivers having to avoid her, but this officer decided she needed over a dozen punches to her head. That is not how you police.
California cop beats woman repeatedly on the freeway

I have never seen that video. It's horrible. It's interesting that it appears a civilian helps LE subdue the women without beating the s**t out of her.

 

[SBops]

I have never seen that video. It's horrible. It's interesting that it appears a civilian helps LE subdue the women without beating the s**t out of her.

And the officer could have too by talking. She was not threat to him. He was not in danger of her killing him with her handbag.

 

[Katerz]

apparently there are still violent protests going on. It’s hard for me to copy links and whatnot on my phone but apparently they were shouting F the national guard, ACAB (switched Bad with Castard but with a B), and climbed ontop of a semi truck to break its windows. I just.. I don’t know. The national guard comment sits bad with me due to my boyfriend giving 15+ years of his life to the army plus the last few years in the guard. This. Needs. To. Stop! So happy George got justice and this sets a precedent but the violence needs to stop!

 

[crhedBngr]

apparently there are still violent protests going on. It’s hard for me to copy links and whatnot on my phone but apparently they were shouting F the national guard, ACAB (switched Bad with Castard but with a B), and climbed ontop of a semi truck to break its windows. I just.. I don’t know. The national guard comment sits has with me due to my boyfriend giving 15+ years of his life to the army plus the last few years in the guard. This. Needs. To. Stop! So happy George got justice and this sets a precedent but the violence needs to stop!

Where is this happening? In the Minneapolis area?

I can't find any news on this . . .

 

[SBops]

apparently there are still violent protests going on. It’s hard for me to copy links and whatnot on my phone but apparently they were shouting F the national guard, ACAB (switched Bad with Castard but with a B), and climbed ontop of a semi truck to break its windows. I just.. I don’t know. The national guard comment sits has with me due to my boyfriend giving 15+ years of his life to the army plus the last few years in the guard. This. Needs. To. Stop! So happy George got justice and this sets a precedent but the violence needs to stop!

BBM For what did your boyfriend give 15 years to the army?

 

[missy1974]

apparently there are still violent protests going on. It’s hard for me to copy links and whatnot on my phone but apparently they were shouting F the national guard, ACAB (switched Bad with Castard but with a B), and climbed ontop of a semi truck to break its windows. I just.. I don’t know. The national guard comment sits has with me due to my boyfriend giving 15+ years of his life to the army plus the last few years in the guard. This. Needs. To. Stop! So happy George got justice and this sets a precedent but the violence needs to stop!

I hope your boyfriend stays safe.

The kids that did the walk out at school yesterday were also chanting National Guard, Go home yesterday I don't know where they start. From what I saw earlier, it was fairly calm.. nothing wrong with large groups showing solidarity and relief/celebration. Let's hope they prove everyone wrong and it stays peaceful.