MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024 #2

[GoBuckeyes]

I think they left after #5 left--he said they were alive after he left after midnight--but by then the snowstorm was moving in, so they didn't actually leave but went back to the family room where they had been watching tv/playing video games while JW passed out on the living room couch. From the photos, the door to the backyard patio is in the family room.

Why they left to go outside into the backyard is the unknown question. While JW was friends with several of them from high school, I seriously doubt he is a recreational drug user. I remember when I was in college not far from Kansas City and I never dared to try drugs because if I got caught, I would be expelled from college and my father would have been very angry. To this day neither me nor my spouse has ever tried weed but I have smelled it, and it stinks. Recreational weed didn't become legal in Missouri until Dec. 22, 2022.

I believe the three men used weed not purchased from a legal dispensary and it was laced with something extremely toxic. That--on top of whatever alcohol they consumed at the sports bar and in the home, plus the extremely cold weather--led to their tragic deaths.

JMO

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So, you can believe that the other 3 are occasional drug users, but not JW?

 

[Arkay]

I can buy that JW was unaware his friends were dead in the back yard but if cause of death is laced illegal drugs then I could imagine JW trying to avoid criminal charges and so could be lying to avoid being charged.

I can absolutely see this as the most plausible scenario, yet we still don’t know enough, IMO.

If the cause is indeed illegal drugs laced with something even more deadly, we still don’t know how those drugs were acquired.

It could be JW who provided it, but it also could be the 5th man, or even one of the three who died. If it is one of the three then we may never know who was the source of the drugs.

I do wonder along with everyone that if JW knew nothing about it, and did not provide any drugs, does he bear any culpability for hosting this party in which his friends did these drugs, IF they did?

JMO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

he is some sort of scientist

The last article that I read specified that he's a data scientist who works for a company that develops HIV treatments, among others.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I can absolutely see this as the most plausible scenario, yet we still don’t know enough, IMO.

If the cause is indeed illegal drugs laced with something even more deadly, we still don’t know how those drugs were acquired.

It could be JW who provided it, but it also could be the 5th man, or even one of the three who died. If it is one of the three then we may never know who was the source of the drugs.

I do wonder along with everyone that if JW knew nothing about it, and did not provide any drugs, does he bear any culpability for hosting this party in which his friends did these drugs, IF they did?

JMO

JMO, but I don't think he could form intent if he had no knowledge. But his behavior afterwards, to me, indicates he knows a great deal more than he's saying.

 

[MyBelle]

So, you can believe that the other 3 are occasional drug users, but not JW?

If they all had ingested a drug that had been laced with a lethal substance, I think they all would have ended up dead. We still don't know what the ME has determined.

JMO

 

[al66pine]

20 Minutes of Door Pounding?

One male family member pounded on the door for 20 minutes shortly before the fiancee got no answer at the door and eventually broke into the home.

@GoBuckeyes
I recall reading this ^ (almost verbatim) in the first day or two of MSM coverage of these tragic deaths. IIRC MSM article quoted multiple posts of two FB'ers' pages, so who knows about accuracy of the stated "20 minutes."

For anyone knocking on door in these circumstances, even 60 sec's could seem like hours, but I doubt it was clocked w a stop watch.
Not saying anyone (ETA: FB post) deliberately exaggerated.

But if resident was running a fan or white noise device & wore noise cancelling headphones (also was listening to music, playing vid game, as his atty said (I think he said), then door knocking or pounding may not have registered w resident. IDK.
imo

 

[UK Girl]

The last article that I read specified that he's a data scientist who works for a company that develops HIV treatments, among others.

Willis is an accomplished scientist, whose research into COVID and HIV has been praised in the medical world. In interviews, he described his two pit-bull mixes - Sadie and Daisy, as the 'light of his life'.

According to an interview that Willis gave to the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative's website in 2022, he is the senior principal scientist at the IAVI Neutralizing Antibody Center in Kansas City.

Willis said in the interview that he conducts data analysis and interpretation for the IAVI's HIV vaccine trials. He also compared the search for an effective HIV vaccine to Covid-19 vaccine research.

Major update after Chiefs fans were found frozen to death in backyard

The fifth friend who was at Jordan Willis' home on the night three Kansas City Chiefs fans were last seen alive has hired a defense attorney - who has disputed parts of Willis' account of what happened.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[arielilane]

I've not been able to keep up with this thread for a few days - so regrets if this article already was posted. In one of the pictures posted at link, one of the victims appears to be wearing an Apple Watch. I've said it before, the electronics are going to be an important factor in this case, besides of course, the autopsy and toxicology results. Imo, it's unfortunately, some type of substance abuse, idk. Hoping the families get answers. Suspect that not much will be revealed or reported, unless it was malicious, which would be hard to prove, but, again the electronics may play a key role to determine something? again, idk, jmo.

Kansas City Chiefs fans found frozen to death ‘saw something they shouldn’t have,’ parents claim

“We just haven’t figured out how yet. . . . What else could it be? Perfectly healthy men don’t just drop off the face of the earth,” David Harrington’s dad, Jon, said.

nypost.com

A fifth friend who was at the gathering has also come forward and said that when he left Willis’ home around midnight Sunday, all four were alive and watching “Jeopardy!”

Police confirmed that Willis allowed officers to search his home.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Clayton McGeeney, 36; Ricky Johnson, 38; and David Harrington, 37, were reportedly found by one of the victim's fiancée the night of Jan. 9.

"I'm not looking for anyone's head or anything, but my cousin was frozen to the dirt for two days," Alan McGeeney, Clayton's cousin, told KCTV," a family member of one of the victims told CBS affiliate KCTV. "It's gotten a lot of attention from everyone having questions but not a lot of attention from anyone having any action; it just seems strange."

John Picerno, an attorney of Willis, told CBS News that his client went to sleep after his friends left his house and doesn't know what happened afterward.

"Jordan had absolutely nothing to do with their deaths. He does not know the timing or manner of their deaths, nor does he know how or when they exited his house," the attorney, John Picerno, said in a statement to CBS News. "He had no knowledge that they remained in his backyard or that they needed medical attention. Had he known, he certainly would have called for help. The last time he saw them was when they left his house, and he went to bed."

Kansas City police identify 3 men found dead in friend's backyard

A fiancée of one of the victims found the bodies while searching for her partner

www.5newsonline.com

 

[UK Girl]

20 Minutes of Door Pounding?

@GoBuckeyes
I recall reading this ^ (almost verbatim) in the first day or two of MSM coverage of these tragic deaths. IIRC MSM article quoted multiple posts of two FB'ers' pages, so who knows about accuracy of the stated "20 minutes."

For anyone knocking on door in these circumstances, even 60 sec's could seem like hours, but I doubt it was clocked w a stop watch.
Not saying anyone deliberately exaggerated.

But if resident was running a fan or white noise device & wore noise cancelling headphones (also was listening to music, playing vid game, as his atty said (I think he said), then door knocking or pounding may not have registered. IDK.
imo

how about the text messages he was sent?

 

[benowens]

Why is this case getting so much <modsnip> coverage? Cases with an obvious lack of foul play seem to get more attention than genuine murder cases these days.

 

[darring21]

Sometimes they do enter homes to do welfare checks, though.

They will sometimes go into the place where the person lives... not someone else's house.

 

[GXP Sleuther]

I actually thought by their saying absolutely no evidence of foul play and NOT being investigated as a homicide SO early and so adamantly before the cause of death had been found, that they were saying that to throw a killer off the trail.

Bingo.

 

[darring21]

If no one answers the door, LE CAN enter when doing a wellbeing check because the man's car was there. KC was hit by a snowstorm/wind/cold Jan 8/9. Many schools were closed. It's a moot point in this case because the door was answered.

JMO

Not without a warrant or belief there is a crime in progress.

 

[cuffem]

If they all had ingested a drug that had been laced with a lethal substance, I think they all would have ended up dead. We still don't know what the ME has determined.

JMO

Their deaths could have been from being unconscious in freezing temps. Fentanyl can cause unconsciousness. Other person could have survived from passing out indoors.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

20 Minutes of Door Pounding?

@GoBuckeyes
I recall reading this ^ (almost verbatim) in the first day or two of MSM coverage of these tragic deaths. IIRC MSM article quoted multiple posts of two FB'ers' pages, so who knows about accuracy of the stated "20 minutes."

For anyone knocking on door in these circumstances, even 60 sec's could seem like hours, but I doubt it was clocked w a stop watch.
Not saying anyone deliberately exaggerated.

But if resident was running a fan or white noise device & wore noise cancelling headphones (also was listening to music, playing vid game, as his atty said (I think he said), then door knocking or pounding may not have registered w resident. IDK.
imo

You could be right about the white noise, etc. It's just strange that immediately after someone inside his home (at that point) is calling his name, he responds to LE's knocking.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Not without a warrant or belief there is a crime in progress.

Yes, they can if they have reason to believe that someone's life is in danger.

 

[darring21]

Yes, they can if they have reason to believe that someone's life is in danger.

Like a crime in progress!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I actually thought by their saying absolutely no evidence of foul play and NOT being investigated as a homicide SO early and so adamantly before the cause of death had been found, that they were saying that to throw a killer off the trail.

I could see that. If that's the case, I wish they could somehow convey it to the lawyer that the one family has hired, even if in a subtle round about way. I know they probably couldn't though.

 

[darring21]

Like a crime in progress!

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