NY - Karina Vetrano, 30, found murdered, Queens, 2 Aug 2016 #3

[Forager]

The Howard Beach Citizens Patrol facebook has a little info on it. The screams were heard near 83rd and 164th street which is the exact location Karina had entered the park at.


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1778979739012842&id=1456727651238054

"Two incidents our patrol assisted the NYPD with:

First:
At 9:20pm a Resident called our patrol phone number to inform us they heard a man screaming from inside the weeds at 83rd Street and 164th. Ave. We notified a passing police vehicle. The SRG 5 NYPD Patrol asked us to light up an area of the weeds from the street level while they went into the weeded area of the park. They were able to find a man screaming and was considered an emotional disturbed person, and was arrested and taken to the hospital for evaluation."

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A specific, mappable location! Nice. Thanks for posting that. I've put it on the map.

 

[Momoffourboys]

http://nypost.com/2016/09/29/not-likely-crazed-naked-man-killed-jogger-cops/

Not likely crazed naked man killed KV.

 

[Lauranyc83]

http://nypost.com/2016/09/29/not-likely-crazed-naked-man-killed-jogger-cops/

Not likely crazed naked man killed KV.

I think they are waiting on DNA to rule it out completely. But they are still investigating other statements he made.

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[Momoffourboys]

Not sure who is misreporting, but, this article states that MF was ranting "The father did it". Not that HIS father did it.

http://www.amny.com/news/naked-man-...vetrano-s-death-police-source-says-1.12380727

 

[Momoffourboys]

Newsday is reporting the same.

Snip

“The father did it and I have nothing to do with it,” Fox was yelling at police who responded to a location in the park after a Howard Beach resident called 911 about 9:30 p.m. to report she heard screaming from the marshy area, police said. A group of officers from the 106th Precinct and the Strategic Response Group went to the spot to find Fox, who police believe was under the influence of drugs.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...etrano-case-to-give-dna-police-say-1.12381771

 

[Lauranyc83]

Newsday is reporting the same.

Snip

“The father did it and I have nothing to do with it,” Fox was yelling at police who responded to a location in the park after a Howard Beach resident called 911 about 9:30 p.m. to report she heard screaming from the marshy area, police said. A group of officers from the 106th Precinct and the Strategic Response Group went to the spot to find Fox, who police believe was under the influence of drugs.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...etrano-case-to-give-dna-police-say-1.12381771

I read the same, but news casters reported "my father". So I'm not sure who is misreporting.

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[kimi_SFC]

Wow!!!! I really hope there is a break in the case...wow.

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Just catching back up here. You never know what could be the the turning point in a case. Praying for #JusticeForKarina!

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[Inthedetails]

Newsday is reporting the same.

Snip

“The father did it and I have nothing to do with it,” Fox was yelling at police who responded to a location in the park after a Howard Beach resident called 911 about 9:30 p.m. to report she heard screaming from the marshy area, police said. A group of officers from the 106th Precinct and the Strategic Response Group went to the spot to find Fox, who police believe was under the influence of drugs.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...etrano-case-to-give-dna-police-say-1.12381771

If that is accurate about "the" father doing it, then I really don't believe this guy is anything other than what he appears - a disturbed and drugged man in the park with no connection to the crime.

jmopinion

 

[Lauranyc83]

Not the same incident that happened few days ago, but this happened in June. Not too far from Spring creek

http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions...cle_8ba85b81-e0ac-52d0-a9b7-7493db11f771.html

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[Lauranyc83]

"HB gets update on Vetrano investigation"

http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions...cle_386d8921-8483-55c7-98dc-6d660dfe9e60.html

Interesting part from article:

"Shortly before the meeting started, Phil Vetrano, Karina’s father, who discovered her dead body on Aug. 2, told the Queens Chronicle he believes there might be some good news soon.
“I think so,” he said.
When asked about the investigation, Barrere said he could only divulge that the suspect is a man, but did not want to comment on his age or ethnicity.
“That’s all I can say at this time,” he told the audience."

"Hours after the meeting ended, police discovered an emotionally disturbed, naked man in the marshland’s creek."



So...this meeting occured before the drugged disturbed man was found.



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[Forager]

Not the same incident that happened few days ago, but this happened in June. Not too far from Spring creek

http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions...cle_8ba85b81-e0ac-52d0-a9b7-7493db11f771.html

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Intereresting, and not off topic, but this guy would have been tied by DNA to the Vetrano case by now if he were the killer.

 

[Lauranyc83]

Intereresting, and not off topic, but this guy would have been tied by DNA to the Vetrano case by now if he were the killer.

True, I didn't think of that. His DNA should be in system.

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[FindHG]

"HB gets update on Vetrano investigation"

http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions...cle_386d8921-8483-55c7-98dc-6d660dfe9e60.html

Interesting part from article:

"Shortly before the meeting started, Phil Vetrano, Karina’s father, who discovered her dead body on Aug. 2, told the Queens Chronicle he believes there might be some good news soon.
“I think so,” he said.
When asked about the investigation, Barrere said he could only divulge that the suspect is a man, but did not want to comment on his age or ethnicity.
“That’s all I can say at this time,” he told the audience."

"Hours after the meeting ended, police discovered an emotionally disturbed, naked man in the marshland’s creek."



So...this meeting occured before the drugged disturbed man was found.



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Was this prior to jogging knee injury guy who came forward?

 

[Lauranyc83]

Was this prior to jogging knee injury guy who came forward?

No this meeting was the same night the crazed drug naked man was found.


ETA: Meeting and statement by PV was made before the drugged man was found.
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[JEF]

I'm new to this thread so I apologize if this has already been asked/answered, but have the police ever publicly said the DNA on KV doesn't match the DNA found on Vanessa Marcotte? I know that's the assumption but am curious about what's been stated to the press.

Also, I read KV was raped 2 x on this thread. Do we know if an actual rape (i.e. actual sexual contact between killer and KV) occurred or some other type of sexual violation?

 

[Lauranyc83]

"It will take about a week to analyze DNA samples taken from a raving, naked man found late Tuesday in the Queens park where jogger Karina Vetrano was killed to see if he has any connection to the case, officials said Thursday."

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...er-case-to-take-week-officials-say-1.12386923

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[deedee21]

I hope this is not turning into a cold case. I hope theres something going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of.PTG

 

[Periwinkl3]

Whether the naked raving man (his initials are MF) was screaming "my father did it" or "the father did it," why would that even be something he'd be screaming? Can't see LE, finding MF knee-deep in the marsh and highly agitated, then asking him about KV's murder right then and there. They are trained to respond with caution to an EDP and I doubt they'd do/say anything to compromise this high profile case. Yes, people on drugs and the mentally ill do some bizarre things, but running out into a marsh naked at 11:00 pm near a murder scene and screaming about the murder sounds like something a man berserk with guilt who took a bunch of drugs (in a suicide attempt?) might do.

 

[GutInstinct]

Whether the naked raving man (his initials are MF) was screaming "my father did it" or "the father did it," why would that even be something he'd be screaming? Can't see LE, finding MF knee-deep in the marsh and highly agitated, then asking him about KV's murder right then and there. They are trained to respond with caution to an EDP and I doubt they'd do/say anything to compromise this high profile case. Yes, people on drugs and the mentally ill do some bizarre things, but running out into a marsh naked at 11:00 pm near a murder scene and screaming about the murder sounds like something a man berserk with guilt who took a bunch of drugs (in a suicide attempt?) might do.

Ditto this. Initials has social profilles...

 

[Periwinkl3]

It was reported that MF was also screaming about his genitals. Thinking about KV's mom referring to the killer's lack thereof.

There's a corresponding address very close to Resorts World Casino and just a couple of miles from the entrance to Spring Creek Park near the murder scene.