It does bother me that BOTH shoe experts can't say who was wearing the shoes but that is one of those questions the jury will discuss. The jury could come to the conclusion through Angela's interviews, Angela's testimony and shoe print experts, that it is beyond a reasonable doubt George wore the size shoe Angie says she bought for him. The shoe print found in blood at Chris Sr's and there was a shoe print found at Dana's.Thanks for clarification that you think George is guilty as sin. I get what you are saying, you want more focus from the prosecution on George and less on Jake.
It does bother me that BOTH shoe experts can't say who was wearing the shoes but that is one of those questions the jury will discuss. The jury could come to the conclusion through Angela's interviews, Angela's testimony and shoe print experts, that it is beyond a reasonable doubt George wore the size shoe Angie says she bought for him. The shoe print found in blood at Chris Sr's and there was a shoe print found at Dana's.
The jury will hash out how much of Jake and Angela's testimony they agree on and if they believe the testimony that George was at the crime scenes - as Angie and Jake say. And if they believe George was at the crime scenes - beyond a reasonable doubt - then I believe the jury will convict George of murder. Probably even all 8 murders and that would put him in prison for life which would be the best justice for the victim's loved ones.
If the jury does not believe George went along on the murders that is where I see trouble. I think one of the most important parts of this case is that the jury believes that George went along with Jake and Billy to the murder scenes.
It is the witnesses who are criticizing Jake all the time but it is still early in the trial and the prosecution said they have the evidence to convict George without the proffers.
I agree, I want to see more evidence against George personally. I am trying to stay as positive as I can that the prosecution will present more evidence and witness testimony directly on George and not as much on Jake.
But I think the prosecution has a plan to put all the pieces together which will show the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that George is guilty of the murder conspiracy of 8 people.
So I had to have time to think about it and I think I get where your coming from. No one knows what a jury will feel is proven and what a jury will feel is not proven.
I personally feel there has been enough evidence presented so far that would show the jury that George is guilty of murder but I admit I am relying heavily on the proffers, proffers are testimony, what Jake and Angela have said and will say on the stand. For many reasons I believe them when they say George was at the crime scenes.
Yes I hope for more evidence against George personally and think the prosecution has their plans laid out for this.
Too early yet to tell what will come out on the stand but I hope to eventually be posting more evidence and testimony that points directly to George and not just to Jake. We all understand Jake was a terrible abusive tyrant with no empathy (I think he was born a pschopath) and thought he basically owned Hanna.
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I think the biggest problem I have is I went into this 100% believing George is guilty. I still do. We have lived and breathed this case for over 6 years and I think that is what we all think on here. If I had been called as a juror and asked can you be unbiased I would have said "Heck no, let's buy a new rope and take that booger out back and find a tall tree so we can string him up Clint Eastwood style. I don't think he deserves a trial." But that is not how the law works in the 21st century.
As far as the shoeprint evidence, I think this is where we are at.
You have two shoe experts who say they cannot place those shoes on George's feet.
You have one Walmart receipt for shoes and Angie on camera buying them. But they are a cheap shoe many people in the area has probably bought.
You have George when questioned in a room alone at the border of Canada saying he never saw the shoes.
You have Jake in a different room saying the same thing George did at the border.
Angie in a different room at the border says she bought the shoes, showed them to the boys, they didn't like them, so she threw them away.
This was all put on record when BCI questioned them at the border.
Then per AC Angie now comes back and says George wore those shoes to the crime scenes. Two stories. Which one is true?
Then per AC Jake says they left the house, went out in the barn and changed clothes and shoes. He then said they burned the clothes and shoes and put on clean ones before they returned home.
Nash is going to nail Angie on those two stories she put on record. Then he is going to nail her on George wearing them to the crime scene. Per AC Angie never left the house. Jake said she stayed home also. So how can she truthfully testify that George wore them if she didn't see them on his feet?
So there fore you have 2 shoe print experts who can't swear George ever wore the shoes, and George and Jake saying they never saw the shoes on one side and Angie with her ever changing stories on the other without any knowledge whether George ever put those shoes on since he left and came back in different shoes.
Now here is where I think AC is tanking her own case. She is relying heavily on Jake's proffer to get a conviction on George. The problem is she keeps calling all these emotionally distraught family members up there to testify that:
1. Jake groomed a 13 year old child and was abusing her (per Kendra) and having sex with her.
2. Jake got her pregnant at 15 and was abusing her, hitting, pushing and choking her (per April and Kendra)
3. Jake was locking her in a bedroom for many days and keeping her from seeing her parents. (per Corey)
4. Jake threatened to chop her legs off if she tried to leave. (per Chelsa.)
5. Jake murdered her and her entire family while most were asleep. (per jake)
Remember Jake is not on trial, and the problem with AC slinging this much mud at Jake, what do you think that jury's thoughts and feelings are about Jake right now. After hearing all that I am betting they are hostile to him at best, hating him at worst.
But AC needs the jury to believe his testimony to convict George.
And the more emotional family testimony, the more sobbing family members on that stand, the more heart rendering words from people who loved Hannah, the more that jury turns against Jake, the more they see him as an evil villain, the less that jury likes Jake. And the more they hate him, the less likely they are to believe him.
Then you got Nash who is going to get up there and say "haven't you already told several stories about that night? Then there is this interview with a reporter where you got caught in a lie. Then there is this BCI, sheriff's report where you lied about everything."
So for my part, if George walks, let's catch him and string him up Clint Eastwood style because whether he walks or not, in my mind he will always be guilty.