Putting out the timeline to include all known events is very very helpful. Thank you for this.
My thoughts on this scenario. Pure supposition. Pls delete if improper.
I don’t believe GW4 purposely told LE anything. But I do think he gave the info away.
If finding of silencer parts
(if found in a well on property previously owned by JW on Peterson Road)
happened to coincide with GW4 return to Ohio, perhaps GW4 was being closely observed or monitored ( through *various methods) by LE during that return to Ohio. Perhaps GW4 made a casual trip over to Peterson Road to stroll through the property to see if the well had been discovered or disturbed. Thus giving away the location.
*Speculating on the various methods, did he drive? Maybe GPS on Vehicle - its been done before.
Cameras on Peterson Road property
Follow pings of GW4 cell phone
Old fashioned basic following GW4 by a few LE
Add to this list if you think it’s possible he was observed in some way
I can’t believe LE did not seize upon a chance to keep a member of the Wagner Family under laser focus, close observation upon a return to the area. I also can’t believe GE4 would be able to resist the urge to check the location of the most valuable piece of evidence to ease his guilty mind.
Yes I have something to add to this list.
Junk had said that in murder Cases he likes to see 1.) Forensic evidence at the scene linking to a killer. 2.) A witness 3.) A confession.
He said there was none of this in this case. (Rhoden/Gilley Case)
In the fall of 2016, investigators stopped looking at the Manleys and started talking about it being locals.
At this point I'm theorizing that the Wagners were on their radar. And for LE to search their properties like they did do, LE would need Probable Cause to get a Search Warrent.
When LE has suspects but there is no evidence tying them to the crime scenes, and no witnesses and no confessions, what LE likes to do is find an informant who will wear a wire and get the suspects to incriminate themselves.
Without an informant, or working along WITH an informant,
LE can and will GET A PROBABLE CAUSE WARRANT and wiretap a suspect's home and work place, but they also wiretap suspect's cars.
....LE had enough Probable Cause to get Search Warrents and so I think it's likely there was enough Probable Cause for them to get WIRETAPS....
I think it is likely that LE had the Wagners wired up...ie...their cars, their house in Alaska, their house in Scioto County, and their work place which was at Fred's farm, which is a place they gathered and talked (according to a confidential source which could be from a person or could be from a wiretap.)
This Case was hard to solve and I think wiretaps were one of the pieces used to help solve it.......My 2 Cents......
Probable cause warrant
The term “probable cause” refers to the right that a police officer has to make an arrest, search a person or his property, or obtain a warrant. Probable cause requires that facts and evidence presented in a case are of the type that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the suspect had committed a crime.