Found Deceased OK - Caitlyn Rose Case, 33, Traveling from Louisiana to Colorado, vehicle abandoned in Fort Towson, 5 Aug 2022

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SimplyCass said:
when CRC stopped at Gainesville (and the gas station on the CCTV, which I'm 95% pretty sure is at the Red River Exxon in Gainesville) isn't confirmed and is part of what makes this so confusing, especially as OSBI specifically says it is from 8/5. Was she driving and stopped just after midnight on 8/5? It's a couple of hours away from her last known area of Pattonville at 7 pm on 8/5.
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BBM: If your suggestion of her having stopped after midnight is correct I would like to further add that she looks relaxed and focused (as I mentioned in an earlier post) on getting back to her vehicle. If your suggestion is correct then I wonder if along her route before her last verified whereabouts she tended to stop for breaks to stretch and maybe close her eyes for a few moments when she felt tired. And during one of these breaks something happened, side of a highway, secluded reststop?
 
So... if she is at the gas station in Gainesville sometime after midnight (early AM Aug 5)... and police don't think she made it into Oklahoma - Then the most logical place IMO for something to have happened to her is at the Gainesville Travel Center (basically a gigantic rest area). If she left that Exxon and traveled North on the I35 (or just stayed on the Frontage Road) - She would be there in <10min. It's the kind of place that I, up until a few years back, probably would've felt safe taking a nap for a couple 3 hours while distance driving. Who knows these days. I could see somebody impersonating an officer tapping on a window and waking her up with a flashlight in her face.

Only reason this location doesn't jive with what I think I understand the timeline to be - The fact that she had contact with a family member around 5pm later that day (??) and things seemed normal (??). IMO - She must've been under duress at that point and acting normal on that call like her life depended on it.

Google Map location here: Gainesville Travel Information Center · 4901, I-35, Gainesville, TX 76240
For reference - The Exxon "from the CCTV image" is part of the Grandway Travel Center on the map just South of the Gainesville Travel Information Center.
 
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So... if she is at the gas station in Gainesville sometime after midnight (early AM Aug 5)... and police don't think she made it into Oklahoma - Then the most logical place IMO for something to have happened to her is at the Gainesville Travel Center (basically a gigantic rest area). If she left that Exxon and traveled North on the I35 (or just stayed on the Frontage Road) - She would be there in <10min. It's the kind of place that I, up until a few years back, probably would've felt safe taking a nap for a couple 3 hours while distance driving. Who knows these days. I could see somebody impersonating an officer tapping on a window and waking her up with a flashlight in her face.

Only reason this location doesn't jive with what I think I understand the timeline to be - The fact that she had contact with a family member around 5pm later that day (??) and things seemed normal (??). IMO - She must've been under duress at that point and acting normal on that call like her life depended on it.

Google Map location here: Gainesville Travel Information Center · 4901, I-35, Gainesville, TX 76240
For reference - The Exxon "from the CCTV image" is part of the Grandway Travel Center on the map just South of the Gainesville Travel Information Center.
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If perhaps as you suggest at the Gainesville Travel Information Center then away from the main building where I'm sure they would have CCTV footage. An unsavoury individual/s (?) may have taken advantage of that fact. And then possibly under duress she spoke to her family making it appear as if all was fine and she was alright, sadly. Or on the road you mentioned.
 
yurintroubl said:
So... if she is at the gas station in Gainesville sometime after midnight (early AM Aug 5)... and police don't think she made it into Oklahoma - Then the most logical place IMO for something to have happened to her is at the Gainesville Travel Center (basically a gigantic rest area). If she left that Exxon and traveled North on the I35 (or just stayed on the Frontage Road) - She would be there in <10min. It's the kind of place that I, up until a few years back, probably would've felt safe taking a nap for a couple 3 hours while distance driving. Who knows these days. I could see somebody impersonating an officer tapping on a window and waking her up with a flashlight in her face.

Only reason this location doesn't jive with what I think I understand the timeline to be - The fact that she had contact with a family member around 5pm later that day (??) and things seemed normal (??). IMO - She must've been under duress at that point and acting normal on that call like her life depended on it.

Google Map location here: Gainesville Travel Information Center · 4901, I-35, Gainesville, TX 76240
For reference - The Exxon "from the CCTV image" is part of the Grandway Travel Center on the map just South of the Gainesville Travel Information Center.
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Actually the Red River Mobile ExxonMobil is a few miles south of the Gainesville Travel Center . It is located on the east side of interstate 35 N. On the frontage road right before US hwy 82. I'm very familiar with Gainesville. The travel rest area is up by the Red River a few miles.
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Actually the Red River Mobile ExxonMobil is a few miles south of the Gainesville Travel Center . It is located on the east side of interstate 35 N. On the frontage road right before US hwy 82. I'm very familiar with Gainesville. The travel rest area is up by the Red River a few miles.
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That's exactly what I said here:

Google Map location here: Gainesville Travel Information Center · 4901, I-35, Gainesville, TX 76240
For reference - The Exxon "from the CCTV image" is part of the Grandway Travel Center on the map just South of the Gainesville Travel Information Center.
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Oops! So sorry! I was thinking it said a part of the travel center..not sure what my eyes were doing lol.I totally missed the south part. Yeah its actually several miles south on the other side of hwy 82. My old stomping grounds from Sherman, east and west. Again sorry!
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No..actually I AM correct. The ExxonMobil is at the Red River ExxonMobil further south and has the same columns at the pumps and blue trash receptacles. I'll add a link and screenshot . Station detail
The ExxonMobil further up near and still to the south of the travel center doesn't have the same pumps and would be too far past hwy 82 up closer to the State line, the Red River. If the car turned east the most probable way then to Paris is hwy82 east traveling from Cooke county through Grayson and Fannin Counties as well. I know they enlisted services of Grayson County per OSBI too.
 

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No..actually I AM correct. The ExxonMobil is at the Red River ExxonMobil further south and has the same columns at the pumps and blue trash receptacles. I'll add a link and screenshot . Station detail
The ExxonMobil further up near and still to the south of the travel center doesn't have the same pumps and would be too far past hwy 82 up closer to the State line, the Red River. If the car turned east the most probable way then to Paris is hwy82 east traveling from Cooke county through Grayson and Fannin Counties as well. I know they enlisted services of Grayson County per OSBI too.
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Grand way and Red River Stop are 2 different locations. That's why I replied originally to the post. Sorry for the lengthy explanation.
 

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Has it ever been considered that she ended up in Bogata from Mount Pleasant? Highway 271 going north runs from Mount Pleasant, Talco, Bogata, Pattonville, Paris, etc. I’ve seen no mention of her on I-30 or being in Sulpher Springs or Commerce but I’m guessing the cities mentioned were where her vehicle was, or maybe debit card purchases without her present like some have mentioned. Bogata is only 30 minutes from Mount Pleasant, another 30 minutes and you’re in Paris.

It seems the general consensus is that she traveled east down Highway 82 from Gainesville TX through south Paris, but did she continue further down 82 past Reno, Blossom, Detroit, possibly on to Clarksville, to turn south down Hwy 37 to end up in Bogata? Or would she have gone south down 271 from Paris, meaning she would have driven through Pattonville and Bogata, only to have back traveled at the times when the reports mentioned cell phone pings?
 
I am confused why nobody seems to be considering that she could have met someone, planned to meet someone, or even stayed with someone during this time. There is no reason for her travel time to have been this long between all these places. She easily could have met someone at a casino and things eventually went south. I think the stranger abduction or tap tap on the windshield or pulled over by a cop impersonator is less likely. But, as soon as I say that I am reminded of Aniah Blanchard.

Below I will show some stats but apologies in advance as I am quoting an article about murdered women and we have no evidence of that yet, but things obviously do not look good.

Statistics show this:

According to analysis of FBI data, of all female homicides accounted for in 2018 where the relationship between perpetrator and victim could be identified, 92% of cases involved women or girls killed by a man they knew, 63% of whom were killed by current husbands, ex-husbands or current boyfriends.
(quoted from this article Femicides in the US: the silent epidemic few dare to name )
 
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I am confused why nobody seems to be considering that she could have met someone, planned to meet someone, or even stayed with someone during this time. There is no reason for her travel time to have been this long between all these places. She easily could have met someone at a casino and things eventually went south. I think the stranger abduction or tap tap on the windshield or pulled over by a cop impersonator is less likely. But, as soon as I say that I am reminded of Aniah Blanchard.

Below I will show some stats but apologies in advance as I am quoting an article about murdered women and we have no evidence of that yet, but things obviously do not look good.

Statistics show this:

According to analysis of FBI data, of all female homicides accounted for in 2018 where the relationship between perpetrator and victim could be identified, 92% of cases involved women or girls killed by a man they knew, 63% of whom were killed by current husbands, ex-husbands or current boyfriends.
(quoted from this article Femicides in the US: the silent epidemic few dare to name )
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I think you have a plausible theory in the making. The statistics you quote could very well have implications for this case.

We have so little detail released by LE that helps draw logical conclusions. OSBI has given us a list of cities but no cogent timeline. They have said she didn't enter OK but not why or what happened in or near Bogata.

Was she abducted, carjacked, killed & her body dumped or what?

Was a stranger involved or did she know the person who commandeered her vehicle on its last path through Paris to the Kiamachi River?

What was the content & tone of her last phone conversation - was she under duress or have an explanation for why she was so far off a path north to her destination, which was CO?

The silence since the last OSBI release/update on August 19 is deafening. We have nothing more to sleuth than we did a month ago.

I'd like to see a cogent timeline released by LE. Knowing her point-to-point path on Aug. 4 & 5 would make beginning to understand the potential why's more plausible.

I want to hear from her father about their last conversation & what he thinks happened.

Could CRC have met up with an ex or someone else? Is this a stranger danger crime of opportunity?

Again, the silence is deafening.
 
diggndeeperstill said:
I am confused why nobody seems to be considering that she could have met someone, planned to meet someone, or even stayed with someone during this time. There is no reason for her travel time to have been this long between all these places. She easily could have met someone at a casino and things eventually went south. I think the stranger abduction or tap tap on the windshield or pulled over by a cop impersonator is less likely. But, as soon as I say that I am reminded of Aniah Blanchard.

Below I will show some stats but apologies in advance as I am quoting an article about murdered women and we have no evidence of that yet, but things obviously do not look good.

Statistics show this:

According to analysis of FBI data, of all female homicides accounted for in 2018 where the relationship between perpetrator and victim could be identified, 92% of cases involved women or girls killed by a man they knew, 63% of whom were killed by current husbands, ex-husbands or current boyfriends.
(quoted from this article Femicides in the US: the silent epidemic few dare to name )
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Her family, loved ones or others who know her haven't said that she knew people in these areas not that I've heard anyways. Its possible of course she met someone and then it went south when in their company. Perhaps it was someone unknown to her loved ones from one of these areas. IDK, just speculating. It is a long trip she was/is undertaking, if she does this every once in a while or say often then she may know people along her route unknown to her family or loved ones.
 
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Her family, loved ones or others who know her haven't said that she knew people in these areas not that I've heard anyways. Its possible of course she met someone and then it went south when in their company. Perhaps it was someone unknown to her loved ones from one of these areas. IDK, just speculating. It is a long trip she was/is undertaking, if she does this every once in a while or say often then she may know people along her route unknown to her family or loved ones.
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We must keep in mind the statistics and what “known” actually means. “Known” could be someone met at a bar, a casino, a dating app, long time friend, former boss, and more. It just doesn’t mean a random person. My loved ones would hardly know who I know. BUT my digital footprint will tell most of who I know.

I’m willing to bet the OSBI is waiting on phone data. Possibly that will tell more. OR they know more. I don‘t hear family on news stories complaining about lack of progress either. If indeed that is the case, I’d encourage them to get vocal.

Personally, if progress is happening behind the scene the silence is fine with me. I don’t have to be in the know. I just hope progress is happening.
 
diggndeeperstill said:
We must keep in mind the statistics and what “known” actually means. “Known” could be someone met at a bar, a casino, a dating app, long time friend, former boss, and more. It just doesn’t mean a random person. My loved ones would hardly know who I know. BUT my digital footprint will tell most of who I know.

I’m willing to bet the OSBI is waiting on phone data. Possibly that will tell more. OR they know more. I don‘t hear family on news stories complaining about lack of progress either. If indeed that is the case, I’d encourage them to get vocal.

Personally, if progress is happening behind the scene the silence is fine with me. I don’t have to be in the know. I just hope progress is happening.
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I'm sure LE will look at everyone, especially through the digital footprint. At the same time I would also be concerned about acquaintances of those people. So those people may not show up it (acquaintances) and perhaps those acquaintances she may trust as they are known to those she communicates with. IDK, I realize it takes a while for phones to be cracked/investigated but its a long time as you said. Maybe we just don't know and everything is happening behind the scenes, I as you hope so as well. As I said its a long route perhaps she was a social butterfly. I wonder if she knew a lot of people along her route?
 
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