Some addresses:
Whitney (and her husband Clint)
Heichel's Apartment
733 SE Cochran Dr, Gresham, OR 97080
The distance between Whitney's home and her work is 1.1 mile, or 4 minutes
Whitney's work location @Starbucks
2233 Northeast Burnside Road, Gresham, OR 97030
I have seen some posters here list different Starbucks addresses. There are a few locations close together so it is easy to pick the wrong one. The above is correct.
Shell Station (where the attendant who pumped the gas recalls a male driver/female passenger. The driver was in a hurry and only wanted a little gas).
25737 SE Stark St Troutdale, OR 97060
This station sits at a large wide intersection. It's in one of those awkward kind of spots where you can only enter into it with a right turn. Left turns into the station would be near impossible if any cars are sitting at the light. There is also a metro bus stop in the bushes in front of the Shell gas station. The store is not that big but you certainly can go in for convenience items. Mostly, it would work like this: you sit in the car, you barely roll down the window, you hand your ATM card to a busy attendant and say "4 gallons of unleaded please", you might roll back up your window. The attendant quickly pumps your gas as he scans the other cars to see some are needing their nozzle removed now and some just pulled up for service - the attendant is planning his next moves.
In other words, imagine taking the card, sliding it in the machine, watching the pump quickly get to 4 gallons, all while scanning the other cars you have to tend to next. The passenger to you from that vantage point is on the other side of the car, up in the front while you are at the rear, passenger is smaller than the seat (not visible from your pump perspective) and all of this through dark windows. You don't really see her much at all. And same with the driver - he rolled up his window so you aren't really seeing him much either. You have no reason to pay that much attention when your mind is on the busy work at hand on a work weekday morning.
Full serve in Oregon is mandatory but it is not the kind of full service that you used to find as higher priced amenities back in the day of the ding ding sound as you pull in over the rubber hose. These guys aren't checking your oil or cleaning your windshield. The attendant would have had very little opportunity to see these people, in particular the passenger.
I'm no longer there so there is no full serve where I am but I can tell you what happens when you live there. If you are on your way to work and you know you don't have enough gas to get there, the only way you can get the gas quickly is to order a small amount. If you say 10 gallons or fill it up then the guy starts your gas and disappears. The attendant always gets back to your car long after your gas is done. Only if you ask for a little does it guarantee they will watch the dials for the 2 or 3 or 4 gallons you asked for since it happens so fast. You really can get in and get out of the lot fast only if you do it this way. I did it several times when I was at risk of being late for a meeting but needed a little more gas. Order a small amount and you can zip out exponentially faster.
Things I find interesting:
- Did the driver at the gas station know his next destination? And so knew he needed a few gallons but in order to be fast at the station he only ordered the minimum needed (so the attendant would stay there and be quick)? Possibly deciding to do this again at another location - quick in and out where you are barely noticed?
- Were Dodge Park and Larch Mountain also familiar places to Whitney? The gas station most likely was. Walmart most likely was. And now...
- ...Another familiar place seems to be where her phone was found. Everyone keeps citing the apartment complex it was found in but when you zoom there in a map and pull out a bit, you see there is a field with bushes behind it. That field is in between the phone apartment complex and the McMenamin's Edgefields. McMenamins seem to have a private looking off the path road where you could sit "and talk" if you were so inclined. Some posters said they saw references to Whitney's familiarity with this McMenamins. McMenamin's are pubs and not open in the mornings. That means that private road adjacent to the field adjacent to the phone find location (Troutdale Terrace Apartments) would be familiar to Whitney (and someone she knew) perhaps and possibly quite private.
- In other words, lots of familiar places. And a driver with knowledge of needing a few more gallons (I checked the 1999 Ford SUVs gas mileage and will say 14MPG is most likely). If the driver knew they were headed to Dodge Park or Larch Mountain (perhaps for a brokered discussion) then he would know just how many gallons would be enough for a round trip. There are limited opportunities for gas once you head over to those areas.
- When was the phone tossed? You could be sitting on that private road next to McMenamin's and throw it across the field into the bushes, easily, especially if angered.
- If the phone was off (and at some point tossed), Starbucks couldn't reach her. I want to know the ping information for when they did reach someone. Where was that phone answered from? Pings will also tell us all the places Whitney's phone traveled.
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McMenamin's and where the phone was found seems to be a middle ground between Walmart and her apartment. Not perfectly in the middle but a reasonable in between[/QUOTE].
[*]Is there another vehicle to consider? For example, if she was intercepted by another at her own apartment and was persuaded to meet at McMenamin's or any of the other relevant addresses, then another car could be in play.
There is much to consider - maybe we will learn more at the next press conference.
Other relevant addresses:
McMenamin's Edgefield
2126 Southwest Halsey Street Troutdale, OR
Dodge Park
39393 Southeast Lusted Road Sandy, OR 97055
Larch Mountain Corridor, Corbett, OR
Walmart
23500 Northeast Sandy Boulevard, Wood Village, OR
another vehicle? OR was this perp ON FOOT?
How far could a "jog"have been from WalMart BACK TO THE COMPLEX?
Not by car... on foot (as the eagle flies etc...)
cutting through the trees other yards etc..?? :waitasec:
I'm thinking this may have been a "neighbor" that layed in wait...
and then returned to the complex after ditching the car.:furious:
:twocents:
