Re: Change of Demeanor of DT, State & ICA before Trial

[ThinkTank]

They may try to change her outer appearance.... but at the end of the day/Hearing ... she is still a PRISONER and guards in bullet proof vests are escorting her to and from JAIL. She can laugh and chat and be touchy feely with her attorneys and babysitters ... but I doubt she has too much to laugh about when they slap the handcuffs and chains back on her, and she goes back to her cell.

 

[LambChop]

I was rewatching Fridays hearing and I can see how ICA has ramped up flirting with CM. She used to sort of ignore him but now she's right up next to him, leaning into him to whisper, and when she left she hit him on the back to say goodbye.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it. I mean if KC claims her father molested her would she be sitting so close to CM and allowing him to touch her arm, pat her on the back, etc. It appears as if she is trying to get close to him because he represents a father figure to her, the way she would like her father to be. He is assertive, for sure, and I'm guessing he is the exact opposite of GA.

CA also was leaning into AF the other day while they sat together. Almost as if KC were comforted by AF being there for her. It's not easy growing up in a household where everyone is expected to be perfect.

When KC writes in her letters to her friend in jail about being relieved because Caylee will never have to be hurt or abused, I believe KC was talking about her mother. And we are not talking about anything physical but mental abuse. We can see with our own eyes how controlling CA is and we do not live with her. She demands perfection and if CA saw herself in KC it must have been very difficult for KC so she rebelled the only way she knew how. Stealing, lying, not working and using Caylee as a lever. Still no reason here to kill your child but if KC thought TL was the answer to get her away from CA then KC did what she had to do to solve her problem. jmo

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

It doesn't matter how they dress her up, once the SA starts the slide show of Fusion pics, text messages and instant messenger convos, the jury will paint their own picture of Casey Anthony.

I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I don't think it's the weight gain.. but her appearance did a complete 180. She just always has this really snarly look about her

 

[ThinkTank]

I was rewatching Fridays hearing and I can see how ICA has ramped up flirting with CM. She used to sort of ignore him but now she's right up next to him, leaning into him to whisper, and when she left she hit him on the back to say goodbye.

yup disgusting!!! much more touchy with Mason now
She even reached around the guard as she was leaving to be sure to pat Mason on the back before she left.

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[Cross Creek]

It doesn't matter how they dress her up, once the SA starts the slide show of Fusion pics, text messages and instant messenger convos, the jury will paint their own picture of Casey Anthony.

I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I don't think it's the weight gain.. but her appearance did a complete 180. She just always has this really snarly look about her

Kind of like a pinched possum look!

 

[gamom]

Bill Shaeffer made a comment about there being a new cast of characters on the defence team (as in manner not persons) when it comes time for trial. He said ICA and the defence team will change their demeanour and change into something we haven't seen before and that the state would likely be as they have been but more personable for the jury. It starts at 15:13 on the following video.

http://www.wftv.com/video/27470955/index.html

I can see the state becoming more personable, I just can't figure out how Baez is going to become more confident and believable and MC be more likeable. As far as Casey, she's a chameleon so they should just sit her beside someone who's normal and decent. Any ideas?

When watching some of the past clips of hearings, I have seen a change in the DT and ICA. I think part of JB's game is to keep the SA guessing so they are not prepared at trial. I already see it working a little with JA since he was a little more heated this past hearing, however I don't see it working at all with LBD. She is so mathmatical. I love her and am glad she is on Caylee's team. I love JA too, but wish he was a little more composed like he was the day when he described the kind of death Caylee may have endured. He was awesome that day. I hope I see more of him in that form.

 

[joypath]

They may try to change her outer appearance.... but at the end of the day/Hearing ... she is still a PRISONER and guards in bullet proof vests are escorting her to and from JAIL. She can laugh and chat and be touchy feely with her attorneys and babysitters ... but I doubt she has too much to laugh about when they slap the handcuffs and chains back on her, and she goes back to her cell.

THANK YOU :rocker: was not enough! You've placed this whole scenario into perspective and the inmate will/does typify the statement "looks are deceiving", IMHO.

She shares NOTHING in common with the guards: heck, she could cost them their jobs! (and HAS already!). :banghead: She shares NOTHING in common with MM since MM IS a young, professional female, a lawyer no less! :woohoo: She has been "out of the loop" much longer than the time of her plaintive whine during her parents' video visit, so she shares NOTHING in common with her family (well, :floorlaugh: other than genetic material and the appearance of the lack of a moral compass!). And she darn well better have NOTHING in :sick: or on :waitasec: her to share with the COs when she's body searched after each "outing" (her time appearing with/for her "audience/public/patrons/fans"). :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[gamom]

yup disgusting!!! much more touchy with Mason now
She even reached around the guard as she was leaving to be sure to pat Mason on the back before she left.

YouTube - S0meRand0mName's Channel
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It looks like LBD is playing solitare on the computer. LOL

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

I think JB gave Cindy the instructions yesterday about a more professional look for ICA. ICA was having an animated talk to JB and then he went back to CA. He tapped the nicely dressed lady from CM's office on the shoulder with that dam* clicking pen and she turned fully around towards CA.

CA pointed towards her own arm from wrist to just above the elbow and I think I saw her say 'white stripes' and 'two pants'. That's just my quess at what was going on and JB didn't look to thrilled about doing it. CA looked a bit embarrassed when he left and craned her head to see ICA.

The whole thing happened before HHJP started the afternoon session on April 6. YouTube - S0meRand0mName's Channel

I love how she thinks her parents still "owe" her. How they are supposed to take care of her for the rest of their lives. IF she would have made the decision to get a job and not kill her child she could be wearing whatever she likes. She acts like a spoiled brat and it sickens me.

 

[sleutherontheside]

While I have many thoughts on KC's court "image"....I will have to share my thoughts in another post.

For brevity... the image KC needs to project is one that is not only the "opposite" of her image at the time of the crime, but the image of someone innocent, pure, scared, and out of her element.

While it is important that she show respect for the court via court attire.....it is also important that she not appear too professional, mature, experienced, or sophisticated.

A suit is NOT a good choice for her because it presents too much confidence that can be mistaken for arrogance. Additionally, she must be relatable to the jury and I doubt that all jurors wear a suit on a daily basis.

I actually did some photo snips from a Sears website earlier today. I will post them later as part of a "wardrobe" discussion.

I am far from an expert this is JMO.

 

[strawberry]

I wonder if JB caught wind of the offense some of us took as to the disparaging of Bones and Gerus. When I finally got to watch the hearing, I noticed he said "we all love dogs...we love to see them do tricks (but...). Too little too late Baez.

PS I think my dog as sleep apnea. I'm listening to her snore two rooms away. Sounds like the train I heard in the hearing video.

 

[Leila]

It doesnt matter what she wears, what colours or how she does her hair.

Lack of emotion will way heavy with the jury.

She appears bored, uninterested and it appears to me like she is watching this happen to someone else. It appears it is one big game to her. She is so detached. These are not the actions of a grieving mother, whos only child has been taken and murdered by someone and she has been wrongly accused accused of the murder.

Regardless of how she tries to act, she is who she is and I think comes across crystal clear. She acts like she doesnt have a care in the world, is bored out of her mind and will walk out of there soon enough without having to face the consequenses of her actions, because that doesnt just happen to her. That is what she probably exactly what she is thinking too.

I'm sure if all of us can see this, the jury will be able to also. Lets all hope.

You've expressed what I've been trying to put my finger on - it's as she's watching this happening to someone else!

 

[gamom]

While I have many thoughts on KC's court "image"....I will have to share my thoughts in another post.

For brevity... the image KC needs to project is one that is not only the "opposite" of her image at the time of the crime, but the image of someone innocent, pure, scared, and out of her element.

While it is important that she show respect for the court via court attire.....it is also important that she not appear too professional, mature, experienced, or sophisticated.

A suit is NOT a good choice for her because it presents too much confidence that can be mistaken for arrogance. Additionally, she must be relatable to the jury and I doubt that all jurors wear a suit on a daily basis.

I actually did some photo snips from a Sears website earlier today. I will post them later as part of a "wardrobe" discussion.

I am far from an expert this is JMO.

ITA. She needs to go completely opposite from the arrest period and she needs to get rid of the low cut, tight fitting shirts. Especially if she is going to claim PTSD for molestation. MOO. I know a molestation victim can wear whatever the want and should not be judged, just if I were a juror the sex appeal she gives off would be a distraction for me and make it hard for me to see her as a victim. On that line, I would have all of the body contact at the DT table stop as well.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Given that the DT is aware of every comment made about KC.....I have to assume that some of the behavior / shennanigans are displayed for the sole purpose of getting another web hit / news article / comment / or mention.

Come trial time.....they'll have more things to worry about. Right now? They are playing to an audience that they created.

 

[azwriter]

While I have many thoughts on KC's court "image"....I will have to share my thoughts in another post.

For brevity... the image KC needs to project is one that is not only the "opposite" of her image at the time of the crime, but the image of someone innocent, pure, scared, and out of her element.

While it is important that she show respect for the court via court attire.....it is also important that she not appear too professional, mature, experienced, or sophisticated.

A suit is NOT a good choice for her because it presents too much confidence that can be mistaken for arrogance. Additionally, she must be relatable to the jury and I doubt that all jurors wear a suit on a daily basis.

I actually did some photo snips from a Sears website earlier today. I will post them later as part of a "wardrobe" discussion.

I am far from an expert this is JMO.

You think we'll see THE blue dress?

 

[gitana1]

Helllllllo defense attorney team, here to get tips and ideas!

Listen, Dr. Glass has it wrong (she opines that everyone involved KC, Geo, CA, Lee etc) should wear pure black suits. I understand her thinking, because she, like we, think this is a family who SHOULD feel the weight of the world on their shoulders..but this all black notion is not quite right.

The best look for KC (and others for that matter) is what could be described as the Olive Garden waitstaff look. Crisp white (or subtle pinstripes) with black pants. KC wears that well and looked best during the check fraud plea. Long sleeves. Very light jacket or tailored vest in super dark color would also work. All of it needs to be crisp and pressed. Find all these things at Nordstroms business dept. The iron free blouses are called Foxcroft. Get a personal shopper to help you, CA. Don't rely on your taste (which is not good!) Tell the shopper you need plain tailored clothing. Think Amish lawyer!

Seriously, why are so many of us giving the defense direct, specific advice
as to how to make their client presentable? I mean, I agree with the advice. She looks sloppy. In fact, I think her mother sabotages her subconsciously vie her clothing choices for casey. But, I don't want to give the defense anything they can use to help win their case. My goal is for casey to be found guilty, not to give the defense advice that could possibly (though not probably, IMO), spark something in a juror that causes them to think this nicely dressed young lady couldn't have possibly killed her baby.

It doesn't matter how they dress her up, once the SA starts the slide show of Fusion pics, text messages and instant messenger convos, the jury will paint their own picture of Casey Anthony.

I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I don't think it's the weight gain.. but her appearance did a complete 180. She just always has this really snarly look about her

She's been incarcerated for two years. Sitting, with no sunshine or fresh air, no phone calls, limited books or t.v., just wallowing in feelings of anger, resentment, self pity, rage, plotting revenge, etc. That's why she has the look that she does.

 

[Atlanta PI]

Remember the woman sitting in front of Cindy the other day? The one that JB had turn around for CA to look at? I think she will be the "model" for the ICA persona we see in court...hairstyle and all.

That being said, my Ga'ma always told me: "Pretty is as pretty does." So it's not going to matter much what she's dressed in, what her hair looks like, etc. You can't whitewash an ugly heart.

Your Ga'ma was a wise wise woman. You definitely can't whitewash an ugly heart. I am not sure what CA is going to do about the clothes. She has to defend her daughter and make sure she brings clothes for her to wear, because doggone it, she is her daughter and she loves her and no child of hers is going to be convicted of murder. Yet, since she knows that she she did in fact kill her granddaughter, I imagine that she really can't pick those clothes with a happy heart or a very good attitude. CA needs to choose - Caylee. She also desparately needs help - but we all know this already. I think she will actually be relieved when ICA is found guilty. She will continue outwardly to defend her, but will in her heart it will be a different story. JMHO

 

[ynotdivein]

Getting back to the topic of the thread... we are talking demeanor here.

Demeanor has more to do with mien and physical bearing than with apparel.

The original poster on this thread linked Bill Sheaffer, who was discussing courtroom manner for both DT and SA.

Shake it off and get back on track peeps. :tyou:

 

[gamom]

There was a trial on TruTV not all that long ago - within perhaps the last year - where the female defendant asked for and received makeup for her to apply prior to coming into the courtroom each morning. I remember it distinctly because they told her there would not be a mirror in the room and I wanted to see what the makeup looked like when applied with no mirror!

This was a young woman who had stabbed another young woman to death during a fight. She was convicted.

So I think if they want makeup they get makeup.

I watched this trial from start to finish. I think it was her voice on the tapes that convicted her. Hopefully the same will be true for this case. I remember that case well though because I felt like it was a tragety for both sides. I actually cried when she was convicted. It was very emotional for me. I don't think I will shed one tear for KC. Actually, I take that back. I will shed just as many tears for KC that she has shed for Caylee....

 

[Noddy]

I had asked AZ a question about this a while ago and here is how she responded:

(see third answer down)

Thanks again AZ!

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I'm glad AZLaywer doesn't think there'll be any change. Sounds as it it's only going to get more dramatic.