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A new episode of the Fall of the House of Murdaugh docuseries titled "The Clerk in Question" was released on 9/25.

After viewing the latest episode of the docuseries, I'm more inclined to believe that RH (Ms. Becky) most likely embellished her experiences described in the book. I can definitely see where it seems easier for her to use or make reference to the jurors-- almost as if interjecting them works as an endorsement of her own thoughts and experience than I see the Clerk taking any overt action that violated AM's civil rights-- warranting AM be granted a do-over!

"The Clerk in Question" episode also reminded me of Russell Lafitte's trial and what happened with his jurors which I don't recall getting much attention. Here, two jurors were dismissed during deliberations, and rather than declare a mistrial, U.S. District Court Judge Gergel replaced them with two alternates.

Less than an hour after replacing the dismissed jurors, they returned with a verdict. (Yes, Gergel is the same Federal Judge that presided over Fleming and most recently AM's guilty plea).


November 2022

Attorneys for Russell Laffitte, the former CEO of Palmetto State Bank, filed a motion in federal court Tuesday asking for a hearing on “jury issues” in the November trial at the federal courthouse in Charleston.

After a three-week trial, a jury deliberated for 11 hours before finding Laffitte guilty on six counts of bank and wire fraud. But that guilty verdict only came after two of the original jurors were dismissed by Judge Richard Gergel and replaced with alternates who had sat through the trial but had not taken part in the jury’s previous deliberation.

Laffitte’s attorney Bart Daniel is asking that the court accept affidavits from the two dismissed jurors, but keep them under seal to protect the jurors’ identities.

In Tuesday’s court filing, the jurors are identified only as “Juror No. 88” and “Juror No. 93.” The affidavits from the two will describe “improper influences on jury deliberations, her experience as a juror, and the circumstances surrounding her removal,” according to the filing.

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Late on the day jurors started their deliberations after Laffitte’s trial, Gergel reconvened both sides to read several notes the judge received from the jury.

One juror indicated that she needed to leave the courthouse to take scheduled medication, but also indicated she was feeling pressured to change her vote. Other jurors wrote to the judge claiming a “hostile” juror was refusing to engage in deliberations or to follow some of the judge’s instructions. Another juror reported feeling anxious and asked to be removed.

After meeting privately with the jurors, Gergel dismissed both the juror needing medication and the anxious juror who reportedly told him she was unable to continue serving her function as a juror.

The dismissals apparently solved the “hostile” juror issue. After being sent back into deliberation with two replacement jurors, the jury returned with a unanimous guilty verdict in less than an hour.

Before the jury returned, Laffitte’s attorneys raised an objection to at least one dismissal, but Gergel said he felt he had no choice as that juror indicated she was unable to continue.

“She was shaking as she talked,” Gergel told the court.

Gergel indicated that the situation was highly unusual, and one he couldn’t recall facing in his 13 years on the bench.

“We’re in virgin territory,” he said.


Laffitte’s attorneys have already asked the court for a new trial, arguing that removing a juror who indicated she was dissenting from the consensus of the rest of the jury was a “miscarriage of justice.” If the original jury had failed to reach a unanimous verdict, the judge would have had to declare a mistrial and federal prosecutors would have had to bring the case against Laffitte all over again.

Daniel and co-counsel Matt Austin say in their request for a new trial that they did not expect Gergel to dismiss the two jurors when he told the court he would be meeting with them about their concerns. They suggest the judge could have instead halted deliberations for the evening and bring the original jury back the next day to continue.
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The Court denied Lafitte's request for a new trial.

The original jury had been deliberating for 10 hours when two jurors were replaced by alternate jurors. Less than an hour after replacing the two dismissed jurors, they returned with a verdict!

I have to question whether or not the jurors were instructed that they needed to begin deliberations anew or with a clean slate-- given the quick return.

Learning that behind closed doors, the government referred to the Juror who allegedly needed to take medication (in 2 hours), and was feeling pressured to change her vote as the "toxic juror," I wonder if she really needed to take medication or just said she did -- the reason cited for excusing the juror.

From the US District Court ORDER AND OPINION dated March 6, 2023:

Defendant submitted his initial post trial motion for a new trial on December 6, 2022, arguing that the Court had improperly replaced two jurors outside the presence of the Defendant, denying him the right to be present at all significant criminal proceedings. (Dkt. No. 224 at 13).

3 The jury, with the two former alternates, began deliberating at 8:33 p.m. and returned a verdict at 9:22 p.m. (Dkt. No. 223 at 63).

Trial courts have broad discretion regarding the replacement of jurors. Appellate courts have recognized that the trial judge is “in the best position to view a juror’s demeanor and determine whether she is able to shoulder the obligations of jury service.” United States v. De Oleo, 697 F.3d 338, 342 (6th Cir. 2012).

“Courts have not construed Rule 24(c)(1) to create such a high bar to replacing jurors,” and it is rare to find a trial court abused its discretion in replacing a juror with an alternate. United States v. Penn, 870 F.3d 164, 170 (3rd Cir. 2017).

 

U.S. District Court
District of South Carolina (Beaufort)
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 9:23-cr-00396-RMG-1​


Case title: USA v. Murdaugh

Date Filed: 05/23/2023

Assigned to: Honorable Richard M Gergel

Defendant (1)
Richard Alexander Murdaugh
Pending Counts
Disposition
ATTEMPT AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MAIL FRAUD (FORFEITURE)
(1)
BANK FRAUD (FORFEITURE)
(2)
FRAUD BY WIRE, RADIO, OR TELEVISION (FORFEITURE)
(3-7)
ATTEMPT AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MAIL FRAUD (FORFEITURE)
(8)
MONEY LAUNDERING - INTERSTATE COMMERCE (FORFEITURE)
(9-22)
Plaintiff
USA
represented by​
Emily Evans Limehouse
US Attorneys Office (Chas)
151 Meeting Street
Suite 200
Charleston, SC 29401-2238
843-266-1663
Fax: 843-727
Email: Emily.Limehouse@usdoj.gov
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Designation: Assistant US Attorney

Date Filed#Docket Text
05/23/2023
2
Order to Seal Indictment as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Signed by Magistrate Judge Kaymani D West on 5/23/2023.(cwhi, ) (Entered: 05/23/2023)
05/23/2023
3
SEALED INDICTMENT (Sealed Grand Jury Ballot attached) as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1) count(s) 1, 2, 3-7, 8, 9-22. (Attachments: # 1 GJ Ballot) (cwhi, ) (Entered: 05/23/2023)
05/23/2023
6
ORDER FOR ISSUANCE OF Arrest WARRANT as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Signed by Magistrate Judge Kaymani D West on 5/23/2023.(cwhi, ) (Entered: 05/23/2023)
05/23/2023
8
Writ of Habeas Corpus ad Prosequendum Issued as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh for from time to time until this matter is concluded. Signed by Magistrate Judge Kaymani D West on 5/23/2023.(cwhi, ) (Entered: 05/23/2023)
05/24/2023
10
MOTION to Unseal Case by USA as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. (cper, ) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/24/2023
11
ORDER granting 10 Motion to Unseal Case as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1). Signed by Honorable Richard M Gergel on 5/24/23.(cper, ) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/24/2023
12
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE Kathleen Michelle Stoughton appearing for USA. (Stoughton, Kathleen) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/24/2023
13
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE Winston D Holliday appearing for USA. (Holliday, Winston) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/24/2023
14​
Case Reassigned as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh to Honorable Richard M Gergel. (bshr, ) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/24/2023
15​
NOTICE OF HEARING as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh Initial Appearance and Arraignment set for 5/31/2023 01:30 PM in Charleston Courtroom #5, U. S. Court House, 85 Broad St, Charleston before Magistrate Judge Molly H Cherry. (cwhi, ) (Entered: 05/24/2023)
05/31/2023
17​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge Molly H Cherry: Initial Appearance as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh held on 5/31/2023, Arraignment as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1) Count 1,2,3-7,8,9-22 held on 5/31/2023. AUSAs Emily Limehouse, Kathleen Stoughton, and Winston Holliday present for the government. Attorneys Jim Griffin, Dick Harpootlian, and Phillip Barber make a general appearance and are present with the defendant. Defendant enters not guilty plea. Court reviews FRCrP Rule 5 Disclosure and directs that a written copy be filed. Government moves for detention. Defendant waives detention hearing and remains detained. Court Reporter April Snipes, CS. (egra, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
18
Not Guilty PLEA ENTERED as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (egra, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
19
ORDER OF DETENTION as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Signed by Magistrate Judge Molly H Cherry on 05/31/2023. (egra, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
20
FRCrP 5(f) DISCLOSURE ORDER as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Signed by Magistrate Judge Molly H Cherry on 05/31/2023. (egra, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
21
ORDER GOVERNING DISCOVERY as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Signed by Magistrate Judge Molly H Cherry on 05/31/2023. (egra, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
23
WAIVER of Rights Under Interstate Agreement on Detainers by Richard Alexander Murdaugh- (Limehouse, Emily) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
24
Warrant Returned Executed on 05/31/2023 in case as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. (cwolf-USMS, ) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
05/31/2023
25
NOTICE OF FILING OF OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh Arraignment held on May 31, 2023, before Judge Molly H. Cherry. Court Reporter/Transcriber D Bull, Telephone number/E-mail debra_bull@scd.uscourts.gov. Tape Number: 92. Transcript may be viewed at the court public terminal or purchased through the Court Reporter/Transcriber before the deadline for Release of Transcript Restriction. After that date it may be obtained through PACER. Parties have 7 calendar days from the filing of the transcript to file with the court a Notice of Intent to Request Redaction. Redaction Request due 6/21/2023. Redacted Transcript Deadline set for 7/3/2023. Release of Transcript Restriction set for 8/29/2023. (Bull, Debra) (Entered: 05/31/2023)
06/01/2023
27
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE: Richard A Harpootlian appearing for Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Harpootlian, Richard) (Entered: 06/01/2023)
06/01/2023
28
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE: Phillip Donald Barber appearing for Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Barber, Phillip) (Entered: 06/01/2023)
06/05/2023
29
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE: James Mixon Griffin appearing for Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Griffin, James) (Entered: 06/05/2023)
06/05/2023
30
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE: Margaret Nicole Fox appearing for Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Fox, Margaret) (Entered: 06/05/2023)
06/06/2023
31​
NOTICE OF HEARING as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh: Telephone Conference set for 6/23/2023 10:30 AM before Honorable Richard M Gergel. Court to send out dialing instructions.(cper, ) (Entered: 06/06/2023)
06/23/2023
32​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Honorable Richard M Gergel: Telephone Conference as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh held on 6/23/2023. All parties are represented on the call. (cper, ) (Entered: 06/23/2023)
06/23/2023
33​
TEXT ORDER TO CONTINUE - Ends of Justice as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh: The Court conducted a status conference with counsel on 6/23/23. The Court was informed that no discovery has yet been produced and that additional time is needed for defense counsel to address outstanding matters. Defendant moved for a continuance and the Government consented. The Court finds the ends of justice are served by a continuance and outweigh the interests of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial. The motion for a continuance is granted. Counsel are directed to file a joint status report in this matter on or before 7/31/23. AND IT IS SO ORDERED. Entered at the direction of the Honorable Richard M. Gergel on 6/23/23.(cper, ) (Entered: 06/23/2023)
07/18/2023
34
MOTION for Discovery by Richard Alexander Murdaugh. No proposed order(Harpootlian, Richard) (Entered: 07/18/2023)
08/03/2023
35​
TEXT ORDER TO CONTINUE - Ends of Justice as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh: The Court conducted a status conference in this matter on 8/3/23. Defendant requested a continuance of 45 days to allow time for defense counsel to receive and review outstanding discovery in this matter. The Government consents to the continuance. The Court finds that the ends of justice are served by a continuance and outweigh the interests of the public and the Defendant in a speedy trial. The defense motion for a continuance of 45 days is granted to provide defense counsel adequate time to obtain and review discovery and to prepare for the ultimate disposition of this matter. AND IT IS SO ORDERED. Entered at the direction of the Honorable Richard M. Gergel on 8/3/23.(cper, ) (Entered: 08/03/2023)
08/24/2023
36​
NOTICE OF HEARING as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh: Change of Plea Hearing set for 9/21/2023 10:00 AM in Hon. Sol Blatt, Jr., Courtroom, J. Waties Waring Judicial Cntr, 83 Meeting St, Charleston before Honorable Richard M Gergel. Courtroom 1 is reserved for overflow.(cper, ) (Entered: 08/24/2023)
09/18/2023
37
PLEA AGREEMENT as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Limehouse, Emily) Modified on 9/21/2023 to replace with dated signature page.(cper, ). (Entered: 09/18/2023)
09/21/2023
38​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Honorable Richard M Gergel: Change of Plea Hearing as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh held on 9/21/2023 Plea Agreement Accepted, Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1) Guilty Counts 1, 2, 3-7, 8 and 9-22. Court Reporter Lisa Smith. (cper, ) (Entered: 09/21/2023)
09/21/2023
40
GUILTY PLEA ENTERED as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (cper, ) (Entered: 09/21/2023)
09/21/2023
41
MOTION for Forfeiture of Property by USA as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh. Proposed order is being emailed to chambers with copy to opposing counsel(Sherard, Carrie) (Entered: 09/21/2023)
09/22/2023
42
PRELIMINARY ORDER OF FORFEITURE granting 41 Motion for Forfeiture of Property as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1). Signed by Honorable Richard M Gergel on 9/22/23.(cper, ) (Entered: 09/22/2023)
09/25/2023
43
MOTION for Immediate Seizure of Defendant's Assets by Richard Alexander Murdaugh. No proposed order (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A - Transcript Excerpt from May 3, 2023 hearing, Beach v. Parker)(Barber, Phillip) (Entered: 09/25/2023)
09/26/2023
44
Letter as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh in re: Defendant's Motion for Immediate Seizure of Defendant's Assets (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A - P. Barber Email to the Court, # 2 Exhibit B - E. Limehouse Email to the Court, # 3 Exhibit C - Beach v. Murdaugh Order, dated Sep 19, 2023)(Barber, Phillip) (Entered: 09/26/2023)
 
Absolutely unbelievable how fast a snake slitters in tall grass!

AM's defense had the first draft of his Federal Plea Agreement filed by 9/18/23 and modified 9/21, no doubt to circumvent the Beach Civil Suit Court Order dated 9/19/23, entering the Scheduling Order and Appointing Special Referee To Administer the Claim Process where the date set by the Court for all potential claimants and creditors to file their respective proofs of claim including valid judgment for damages by October 29, 2023, in order to be eligible for any allocation (if any) of the Receivership Funds.

Next followed the very irregular email to the Court (Judge Gergel) by DH et., al. highlighting the defense Motion requesting the Government Immediately Seize the defendant's Assets!

As always, it comes down to following the money... MOO



09/18/2023
37
PLEA AGREEMENT as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh (Limehouse, Emily) Modified on 9/21/2023 to replace with dated signature page.(cper, ). (Entered: 09/18/2023)
09/21/2023
38​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Honorable Richard M Gergel: Change of Plea Hearing as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh held on 9/21/2023 Plea Agreement Accepted, Richard Alexander Murdaugh (1) Guilty Counts 1, 2, 3-7, 8 and 9-22. Court Reporter Lisa Smith. (cper, ) (Entered: 09/21/2023)

09/26/2023
44
Letter as to Richard Alexander Murdaugh in re: Defendant's Motion for Immediate Seizure of Defendant's Assets (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A - P. Barber Email to the Court, # 2 Exhibit B - E. Limehouse Email to the Court, # 3 Exhibit C - Beach v. Murdaugh Order, dated Sep 19, 2023)(Barber, Phillip) (Entered: 09/26/2023)

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Just curious…does anyone know an age range of the jury foreperson? Just looking for a ballpark idea…cannot recall if any one reporting on the trial ever said anything about it. Sometimes reporters who attend a trial will say something like the foreperson was a man who appears to be in his 30s or 40s - just looking for that kind of thing - with so many people who attended the trial doing podcasts and posting and such perhaps someone said something along those lines. Has anyone seen anything about that?
 
From the quoted link:

"At the state sentencing hearing, (Judge Newman) stated ... he had not reviewed the federal court’s sentencing hearing because he did not 'defer to the federal court system in making his decisions,'" Barbier and Franklin-Best noted.

Fleming's lawyers feel Judge Newman's open refusal to consider Fleming's federal 46-month sentence before giving his own sentence represented the judge erroneously reaching a conclusion without considering all evidence.

Fleming's lawyers further assail both Judge Newman and South Carolina's criminal sentencing procedures, claiming a lack of uniform sentencing guidelines "resulted in a gross sentencing disparity" that violates Fleming's 14th Amendment due process rights.

"(Judge Newman) repeatedly stated that this case was 'unprecedented' and that 'there’s no way there is a case in this state where the amount of thievery exceeded what’s occurred in this case,'" Fleming's attorneys pointed out.

Fleming's lawyers end by noting their belief that any objections during the sentencing would have been "futile," which they feel under court precedent in other cases clears them of not having raised any of these objections during the sentencing hearing.




Fleming faced as many as 195 years in prison for 23 state charges, and was sentenced by Judge Newman to 13 yrs, 10 mos.

IMO, for Fleming's defense to say Judge Newman did not consider all the evidence by not agreeing to accept the federal Court's suggestion to adopt their sentence as a two for one, I think the opposite is true -- it was the federal prosecutor and government that did not consider all of the evidence when imposing a 46 months sentence (about 39 months at 85%) per federal regulations.

I also can't think of another Judge who would be more merciful to listen to any objections which were not raised at the sentencing on 9/14, or at the plea hearing on 8/23 than Judge Newman.

You bad, CF....


Justin Bamberg, an attorney for other victims of Fleming and Murdaugh's alleged scheme, had harsher words for Fleming, who looked down and did not look back at the Satterfield family during the proceeding.

“This is a dagger in the heart of the clients who trusted their lawyers,” Bamberg said.

Bamberg asked the judge to sentence Fleming, who faced up to 195 years in prison, "firmly."

Agree. If I were CF, I'd look at that 13 years, and start my car.

At least this way he's likely out soon enough to actually engage in good faith in all those good works his supporters claim for him.

I'm also a bit tired of the histrionics and flat-out schadenfreude of so many of the cast of characters in this case -- lawyers, certainly, but also some of the journos and podcasters who've built their audience on the backs of the many victims of Murdaugh & Co.
 
Just curious…does anyone know an age range of the jury foreperson? Just looking for a ballpark idea…cannot recall if any one reporting on the trial ever said anything about it. Sometimes reporters who attend a trial will say something like the foreperson was a man who appears to be in his 30s or 40s - just looking for that kind of thing - with so many people who attended the trial doing podcasts and posting and such perhaps someone said something along those lines. Has anyone seen anything about that?
I believe the jury foreperson #826 is Amie Williams. She was one of the 3 jurors who traveled to NY for the Today Show interview and is seated on the far right. IMO, she appears to be late 40's - early 50's. Not confirmed -- just my opinion.

 
Murdaugh’s lawyers now say they’ve been in contact with four jurors who claimed they felt pressured to find Murdaugh guilty quickly.

One of the jurors, #785, was dismissed during closing arguments. The media dubbed her “egg lady” after she asked to retrieve a dozen eggs from the jury room when Judge Newman excused her.

Juror #785 signed an affidavit in which she said Hill questioned her about a Facebook post purportedly written by her ex-husband in which he claimed she got drunk and talked about her feelings about the case.

However, juror #785 said she hadn’t spoken with her ex-husband in 10 years. The ex-husband also signed an affidavit claiming he never made the post.


Sep 26th, 2023, 4:57 pm
 
I believe the jury foreperson #826 is Amie Williams. She was one of the 3 jurors who traveled to NY for the Today Show interview and is seated on the far right. IMO, she appears to be late 40's - early 50's. Not confirmed -- just my opinion.

I could be wrong but I don’t think she was the foreperson - seems I recall a reporter saying the foreperson appointed by Judge Newman was a white female. I think Amie was #864 but not positive on that. I also think she is the A in the A&D time mentioned in one of the affidavits - which would make the foreperson D. But I’m not really trying to identify the foreperson just get an age range. I just don’t think it was Aime. Thanks though.
 
Boy DH looks like he's aged 10 years since the trial. :eek:

Not surprising, AM sucks the life out of everyone around him.
 

Boy I hope DH doesn't find about these people giving the case more pre-trial publicity grabbing their 15 minutes. He hates that.
 
Murdaugh’s lawyers now say they’ve been in contact with four jurors who claimed they felt pressured to find Murdaugh guilty quickly.

One of the jurors, #785, was dismissed during closing arguments. The media dubbed her “egg lady” after she asked to retrieve a dozen eggs from the jury room when Judge Newman excused her.

Juror #785 signed an affidavit in which she said Hill questioned her about a Facebook post purportedly written by her ex-husband in which he claimed she got drunk and talked about her feelings about the case.

However, juror #785 said she hadn’t spoken with her ex-husband in 10 years. The ex-husband also signed an affidavit claiming he never made the post.


Sep 26th, 2023, 4:57 pm
This is reported by L&C as if they have learned something new and an additional juror had made similar accusations about being pushed into a guilty verdict - but I don’t think that’s the case. When I first saw it I thought it was something new but I watched the Law & Crimes video interview at Crimecon and it seems to me it was a comment from the reporter saying “now” as if it was an additional one. DH & JG were just repeating things they’ve already said. The motion for new trial already had 4 jurors included - 2 who signed affidavits and 2 that didn’t sign them so that Holli Miller gave statements about what they said and signed affidavits for that.
 
This is reported by L&C as if they have learned something new and an additional juror had made similar accusations about being pushed into a guilty verdict - but I don’t think that’s the case. When I first saw it I thought it was something new but I watched the Law & Crimes video interview at Crimecon and it seems to me it was a comment from the reporter saying “now” as if it was an additional one. DH & JG were just repeating things they’ve already said. The motion for new trial already had 4 jurors included - 2 who signed affidavits and 2 that didn’t sign them so that Holli Miller gave statements about what they said and signed affidavits for that.
Do you mean reporter as in Angenette Levy? TIA :)
 
Do you mean reporter as in Angenette Levy? TIA :)
Yes I think it’s the video you linked above and it’s the reporter’s narration that makes it sound like this is a recent discovery since she is interviewing them at crimecon. In the first few minutes she says 2 jurors - referring I’m sure to the 2 who signed the affidavits. Then about 5 minutes in she says something along the lines of the attorneys now say that 4 jurors have come forward saying they were pushed into a guilty verdict. I don’t think she necessarily meant for it to come across as new information but the way she worded it and had it in the middle of the recent interview made it sound that way until I watched the whole video and saw that they weren’t talking about anything that wasn’t already brought out in their request for new trial. Please watch it again and let me know what you think. Perhaps it’s just me that thought it sounded like there were additional jurors coming forward - after the motion was filed - new info since then. But I just wanted to point it out in case anyone else saw that video and thought the same thing.
 
Yes I think it’s the video you linked above and it’s the reporter’s narration that makes it sound like this is a recent discovery since she is interviewing them at crimecon. In the first few minutes she says 2 jurors - referring I’m sure to the 2 who signed the affidavits. Then about 5 minutes in she says something along the lines of the attorneys now say that 4 jurors have come forward saying they were pushed into a guilty verdict. I don’t think she necessarily meant for it to come across as new information but the way she worded it and had it in the middle of the recent interview made it sound that way until I watched the whole video and saw that they weren’t talking about anything that wasn’t already brought out in their request for new trial. Please watch it again and let me know what you think. Perhaps it’s just me that thought it sounded like there were additional jurors coming forward - after the motion was filed - new info since then. But I just wanted to point it out in case anyone else saw that video and thought the same thing.
AL stated early part of the video:

2:11 BH is center of Murdaugh's motion for a new trial. AL reports that DH and JG say that two jurors have told them that Hill had private conversations with the jury foreperson and that she tried to sway jurors to find Murdaugh guilty.


4:57 Around the 5 min timestamp:

The other jurors DH now says his team has four jurors who have raised concerns about feeling pressured to reach a guilty verdict.


 
AL stated early part of the video:

2:11 BH is center of Murdaugh's motion for a new trial. AL reports that DH and JG say that two jurors have told them that Hill had private conversations with the jury foreperson and that she tried to sway jurors to find Murdaugh guilty.


4:57 Around the 5 min timestamp:

The other jurors DH now says his team has four jurors who have raised concerns about feeling pressured to reach a guilty verdict.


Yes. Do you agree that this is not a reference to any additional jurors we did not know about from the affidavits submitted with the motion for new trial?
 
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