Things I am not pulling out of thin air:
1).
Someone called Mari Gilbert claiming to be CPH, saying that he was treating Shannan in his halfway house.
2). CPH DID lie about this phone call.
3). Witnesses tell us that Shannan ran down Anchor Way that evening, the very street CPH lives on.
4). Shannan's body WAS found in a thicket behind the good doctor's house.
I don't see those things as "smoke and mirrors"...I see them as facts I can't simply ignore.
I'm not focusing on CPH to the exclusion of anyone else, but I'm damned sure not going to bump him from the top of my list simply because someone here thinks I'm picking on him either. I've
been sleuthing the guy, I will
continue to sleuth the guy, and I
will continue to post anything of interest I find.
If others think I'm off base, they can skip my posts...if they think I've crossed a line wrt forum rules, they can report any post they find objectionable. Otherwise...this train rolls on.
I'm not going to skip your posts, MK, I like them. But I think these "facts" are an oversimplification of the collection of facts and known sequences of events. They require more analysis for a proper interpretation.
Let's talk about #1 for a second. There are other perfectly reasonable explanations for the mystery call. Let me start with what is
NOT reasonable:
- May 1st - CPH murders Shannan (or he was part of some group that did)
- Sometime between May 1-6 - He coincidentally meets Diaz and Pak while they were walking through the neighborhood. Hackett gives them his biz card, says to call if he can be of assistance.
- May 4th - Shannan is reported missing in NJ (the date of the missing persons flyer).
- May 6th - CPH calls Mari and says that Shannan was "with him that night at his rehab clinic, she left with her driver in the morning".
OK, if I'm Mari, I go absolutely crazy if I get a call on the 6th from CPH after I've already reported her missing. I say "Hey, you need to talk to Detective so and so from the NJ PD, etc., etc. I don't let this person off the phone in 4 minutes without SERIOUS follow-up action items.
What if CPH called Mari
before he met Diaz/Pak? This is even more unreasonable because:
- According to Sherre, the mystery of Shannans disappearance began on May 3, 2010. Sherre Gilbert got a phone call from her sisters boyfriend reporting that Shannan hadnt come home in two days. So if the "rehab call" comes in let's say May 1st or 2nd, why is this not the beginning of the mystery of Shannan's disappearance? Why doesn't Sherre tell Diaz about that call?
- Why didn't Diaz/Pak confront him when they met him about the call?
- Why didn't Mari report this mystery call to NJ/Suffolk County police?
I think there are some reasonable explanations for all this confusion. Here's some very likely possibilities:
1) Mari entirely made up the contents of the call (false allegation/accusation). She did in fact receive a phone call from CPH, who later became her "prime suspect", and in order to direct media and police attention towards him, she concocted the story of the "rehab" call. I hope you don't think my suggestion here is crass - on the contrary, I think its completely understandable for someone under such enormous stress to do such a thing. I'll also point out that this was first suggested by Peter_Brendt here on this board, so I'm not even taking credit for the suggestion. This theory just makes the most sense to me.
2) Mari misremembered the contents of the call. She did in fact speak with CPH, and did meet him at his house on the 9th. She never really confronted him on May 9th about the call (she said Sherre was the one who "confronted" him about the call on the 9th, whereas she stayed back in the crowd - this "confrontation" about the rehab call was never corroborated by anyone else in attendance that day). This sounds squirlley to me because Mari received the call from CPH, so why didn't SHE directly confront him about the contents of the call? Months later (the Suffolk County missing persons flyer is dated June 18, 2010 and police deny she reported any such call from CPH, which I happen to believe), when the media firestorm had started because of the discoveries along Ocean Parkway, she somehow mis-remembers the contents of CPH's calls from May. Its very possible that CPH said something that stuck in her head, like "Maybe she went to a rehab clinic" or something along those lines. Somehow, the stress combined with the time lapse caused Mari to completely mis-recall the contents of the calls from CPH.
3) Much less likely of a possibility (but one worth mentioning) is that Pak/Diaz somehow arranged for a friend to make that call in order to divert any police investigation away from themselves (motive) because of any illicit activities that they may be involved in on a day to day basis. I doubt this, since that would be a fairly elaborate scheme and not well played (i.e., she "left with her driver"). They had Hackett's name from his biz card, so they had "opportunity", but why would they then ask him to call Mari if they already set him up as a patsy (again, not well played)? This theory is nonsense and just creates more confusion.
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Mountain_Kat, as far as your #2, "CPH DID lie about the phone call"...
- News reports clearly indicate that that CPH denied making that call. I believe they ALL trace back to the interview he gave on his porch where he was asked if he ever called Mari and told her that she was at his halfway house, to which he responded "No, I never said that, I never met Shannan, I never saw her that night, etc." I am not aware of any other quote, interview or other direct (non-hearsay) source attributable to a specific denial by CPH that he "never called". So, is he a "liar" because he didn't say in that porch interview "Hey, I did call her family the week after her disappearance, but I never said THAT!". I don't think so. Later in his letters to 48 Hours, he doesn't deny calling Mari in either letter. He is completely forthcoming, and in the second letter he provides details of his call logs. I don't call this being a liar. He was also "Very cooperative" with police, so if he lied to them about anything I doubt they would say that he was "very cooperative" or publiclly rule him out as a suspect. I think that the multiple news reports that he "lied" or otherwise "denied" are basically just crappy reporting. I mean, which one cites him verbatim? None.
As far as your #3, "Witnesses tell us that Shannan ran down Anchor Way that evening, the very street CPH lives on."
- Yeah, but so what? There's like 500 people that live in that area of Oak Beach. We can't just say "He lives close to where she was last seen, and this is therefore evidence of guilt."
As far as your #4, "Shannan's body WAS found in a thicket behind the good doctor's house."
- This is the most exonerating evidence yet. Police believe she died of accidental causes after she went into the woods and got lost. By all accounts, she was having some type of episode. Getting lost in the woods in a matter of seconds in the dark IS EASY. Getting hypothermia from being cold and wet IS EASY, and QUICK. Taking your clothes off when you get hypothermia IS COMMON. And how stupid would CPH be if he dragged her back there? He would leave all kinds of physical evidence. I think its clear that SG died of natural causes while thousands of man-hours have been spent narrowly focused on identifying her "killer" where none existed. While we need to be respectful to Shannan and her family, I think we owe it to ourselves and to the Melissal, Amber, Maureen, Megan, Jessica, Jane Doe#6 and any other victim of this serial killer to see the facts clearly and interpret them correctly. For me, CPH is not the killer we're looking for. I'll continue to discuss him, but I'll maintain my position unless any "actual evidence" or "relevant fact" is brought forward.
One quick thing unrelated to my response to MK...
TruthSpider mentions the statement: "I saw her running looking distressed so I gave her a sedative"
- This is hearsay, not fact.
Flukeyou is claiming this over at LISK. You judge the veracity for yourself.
