Hello WS
"The Ramseys were guilty of something", is an excellent way to describe where I am coming from in my amateur sleuthing of this case. The more I read about this case online, the more I see that some people have strong emotions attached to this case(other than feeling badly for JonBenet, of course). I did not expect that. I look at this case like one would look at the case of Cleopatra, or Jack the Ripper. I mean no offense to those who feel differently nor offense to JonBenet or the fact that she has loved ones who are very much alive.
I also do not feel I have read enough or have enough information to be coming on strong about anything I am posting. I am a certain amount sleuther by nature, and so I am here sleuthing answers to questions I have had regarding some cases that have interested me. This is one of them, Caylee Anthony is another. In the Anthony case, that is very different for me, because it is certainly not history!
I followed a link given on the TruTV message board(I only gave the link to the material, not the link to the message/message board) and found this interview John and Patsy did for "The 700 Club."
http://www.cbn.com/700club/scottross/interviews/jonbenet2.aspx
SCOTT: Are you bitter, angry, cynical?
PATSY: On days it's yes, yes, yes. Just like normal, you have a good day or a bad, you have a good hour, a bad hour.
We were at the beach on vacation and I see all these little families running around playing, little blondes, cute little beach clothes and having fun and frolicking, you know, and I'm bitter because that was taken away from us. I should be enjoying my children -- both of them. You know, that is hard.
(I think it's telling that Patsy does not mention JonBenet by name here, or something
personal about her daughter. Patsy says she is bitter because "running around playing, little blondes,
cute little beach clothes and having fun and frolicking" have been taken from them. Not JonBenet? I am sure that is who/what she meant, it's just not what she said. Patsy's obsession with pageants and clothing and all that, does not mean she killed her daughter. But, one thing I think the Ramseys were guilty of was treating a baby/little girl like a woman. MOO, truly. )
They had a little corner of the room where they learned about baptism and christening, and JonBenet's christening gown was a part of that display.
(Here again is the obsession with clothing. With things "being on display." I wonder if every child had their own corner with their gown on display? No, really I'm asking. If this is something everyone does, or gets to do then I am being nit picky here.)
SCOTT:
The bottom line, below the bottom line, people will ask me, "O.K., you've come out of this, confidentially, what do you think? There is also a side not only as a journalist, but being an ordained minister in the church, to say to other pastors, if they ask me, "Would you recommend to let these people come to my church?"
JOHN: Let me ask you this? What if we were murderers? Would we be denied access to a church? I hope not.
(I find this part funny in that sad kind of way. I wonder why John didn't just answer the question? He answered the question with a question. He wants to be sure that if he and Patsy were murderers, they would still have access to the church! John seems offended/upset at the idea of murderers being denied access to a church. Patsy joins in: )
PATSY: That's the people who need to be there. Aren't we "preaching to the choir" as they say.
(I mean, if you don't have murderers at church, why even bother?! You're just preaching to the choir, everybody else has "got it" and is in agreement except for those darn murderers. They, they are the one's that need to be there...)
SCOTT: Well, they still say that.
(Really? Huh. )
JOHN: That is a problem we Christians have in our churches.
(John agrees this is a problem we have in their churches, the denying of murderers access to church. Is this a policy I don't know about? Are they just speaking of their church in particular? Because, from my understanding inmates, (I am supposing we are talking about convicted murderers here) have access to and are encouraged to speak with clergy during an incarceration process.)
PATSY: We need to welcome everyone.
(Okay. Same thing here, just pressing the point that murderers should be welcome in the church. All answers to a man being asked if having the Ramseys at their church would be safe. Neither John or Patsy have answered that question yet. )
JOHN: We think it's a club we belong to because we are all good and we are better than most. Jesus addressed the worst of the worst in his society.
(John is on a soapbox at this point, a call back to reason found with humility! Yes! Yes! Murderers should not be denied access to a church. We (like he who are all good and better than most) think we belong to some (exclusive is inferred because we have been keeping "murderers" out) club because we are all good and better than most but Jesus addressed the worst of the worst and I guess John is saying so should they.)
"Let me ask you this...what if we were murderers?" :waitasec:
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P.S. I would like to know how "Scott" would have answered his own question. What would he say to other Pastors?
Would he "recommend to let these people come to my church?"
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