The Rumor Mill -- unsubstantiated, yet possible relevant information

[Mountain_Kat]

Welcome aboard, KP!

I was a lurker for 2 years before I decided to step out and start posting. I've never regretted being a part of this community. It's the best of it's kind, imo.

 

[minazoe]

somehow the rumor about linking this whole case to the infant victim..makes me think we may be looking at a mother and a child missing from another state, possibly a far away state.

perhaps our killer invited them to LI, for a life changing experience...maybe provided tickets....

knowing full well that a mother and child combination would be immediatley missed ( and looked for) if they were... in any way , local.

 

[KPCrimeNY]

somehow the rumor about linking this whole case to the infant victim..makes me think we may be looking at a mother and a child missing from another state, possibly a far away state.

perhaps our killer invited them to LI, for a life changing experience...maybe provided tickets....

knowing full well that a mother and child combination would be immediatley missed ( and looked for) if they were... in any way , local.

The toddler was found pretty close to the 2000 unidentified Manorville victim from what I see on Shadowraiths Map. To me if any are linked they would be. That said though there still is no ID that we know of for that victim. Also there was never a time period of when the Toddler was dumped correct?

 

[minazoe]

The toddler was found pretty close to the 2000 unidentified Manorville victim from what I see on Shadowraiths Map. To me if any are linked they would be. That said though there still is no ID that we know of for that victim. Also there was never a time period of when the Toddler was dumped correct?

I think you are correct. No information on how long the victims were deceased, or how long they may have been there...

I hope they can identify them, hope they have DNA...dental id on a toddler would likely be a shot in the dark.

 

[KPCrimeNY]

I think you are correct. No information on how long the victims were deceased, or how long they may have been there...

I hope they can identify them, hope they have DNA...dental id on a toddler would likely be a shot in the dark.

Right...I think ID on either of these is long shot. They've had the DNA of victim since 2000 and never got anywhere. Also toddlers are not required for dental until they go to some type of school. Well here in NY that is. Not saying that some don't go earlier either.

 

[PickleChris]

Ok. I am putting this in the rumor section because don't know how valid this is. But on the "official" LI Serial Killer site, some woman has been claiming she has info regarding the case. She has posted video she found on youtube claiming this might have been made by the killer. The videos are kinda disturbing.

Here is the link to the article. The comments where she posted is right after.
http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/05/two-more-murders-may-be-linked-to-long-island-killings/

The first video is here...at one point he turns the camera and there appears to be someone with a bag over there head, sitting in a chair.
http://youtu.be/cJsVgFPQt8o

The next one where she made the connection, when he turns the camera towards the tv, one of the victims is on it. And it does kinda look like her.
http://youtu.be/SXo0PbzpabA

Her post has time frames to find stuff quicker. I don't know if this has anything to do with the case, that's why I posted it in the rumor section.

The first video is the DVD menu page for the Chris Cuttingham Music Video Collection DVD...I believe that scene is in the Portishead video.

I do agree, the guy is really strange.

 

[Verity]

Hi 'sleuthers! Haven't been here for a while, still have to catch up, so maybe this has already been posted somewhere, but I think not:

Just in, homicide - not much detail yet, but close enough to mention I think: http://www.smithtownradio.com/2011/05/27/1300/shanell-malave-found-dead-at-her-home-in-mastic-beach/ Too early to know if there's a connection.

Re the headless body in Amagansett, the tide goes the other way, so unlikely to be connected. Sorry if other locals have already mentioned this.

I'll try and catch up later, but wanted to post this link while I had it up.

Also, if anyone is interested, a missing 15 yr old was found today during a prostitution sting, they're not identifying her. Thought I'd mention in case there's a thread for one that could be connected. Only mentioning here because yet again, it's prostitution.

The thread about SCPD corruption - I have been following the Guldi case - that's a really interesting case and lots of local rumors abound there, but I don't see any connection TBH with Gilgo. It's about insurance fraud and a mortgage ponzi scheme. I don't want to say too much until I catch up, then see what I can add, if anything.

Have a great Memorial day weekend, stay safe and remember our troops!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

This doesn't really fit here, but then, it doesn't really fit anywhere, so..meh. The reason I wanted to post it is because it's an true case example of many of the things we've touched on since we began sleuthing this case. Sex parties at strip clubs and private residences, dirty cops, human trafficking, even tattoos used to brand girls. It's an interesting (and nauseating!) read.

http://movingoutmovingon.bloghi.com...e-wayne-taylor-charged-pimping-teenagers.html

 

[PAXIMUS]

The most important question in this case is why did she seemingly run from PAK her driver, she came out of the johns house hysterical, he was allegedly waiting for her just outside, so why wouldnt she run to soeone she is FAMILIAR WITH and who, for all intents and purposes is there to help her and save her should bad situations present themselves, but she didnt only run from him at the John's house she further ran from him AGAIN when he came to Colett's house to inquire if she was there, she hid under his boat and when she say Pak drive uyp to that house she ran again, YET the police dont seem to even have PAK as a POI or suspect, which is very strange being that she didnt go to him for help and protection but ran from him for some strange reason.

Also worth noting that it was PAK who contacted HER and told her HE found her a client in LI oak beach area so HE set that meeting up she didnt.



I dont know why I cant shake this feeling but somethng tells me there are snuff films involved here but that is just a shot in the dark I have no evidence to support that. I do know thats a big business in some circles and certain enclaves in Long Island love by their own rules and laws, even the police in my opinion are part of it, at least on some level (turning their heads to some things) in some cases.


I am fairly certain this isnt organized crime involved though, they clean things up pretty nicely and wouldnt leave bodies or belongings on the side of the road no matter how remote the area may seem. This is the work of someone who isnt very professional when it comes to disposal, or at least someone who wants others to see his "work".

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I don't know about "snuff films", but I am absolutely convinced some kind of filming is occurring. There's not a doubt in my mind that the "errand" SG and JB ran was a drug run. But I don't think SG knew exactly what drug she was actually getting. She might have THOUGHT she knew, but...

 

[waltzingmatilda]

OT....sort of

I wasn't sure where to put this as it is unrelated to this case however there are similarities to the GB4 and the AC victims. The police are stopping short of saying this is a SK so I felt it a bit premature to begin a separate thread of it's own in this forum without further details. There is also info on backpage.com that I found interesting.

http://www.freep.com/article/201112...in-Detroit?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Good advice for escorts everywhere from above link.

On Monday, Godbee advised that if you are thinking about meeting someone from the Internet, tell someone you know exactly when and where you plan to meet the person -- and then do so in a public place.

"Deciding to meet unknown persons via the Internet can be extremely dangerous," he said. "Our sole purpose is for the public to be cognizant of this website when engaged in adult activities."

At 7:57 p.m. Monday, someone posted a warning on Backpage.com. In part: "Never go any where with just anybody ... If U no some crazy person that U have seen recently & he tried to really harm U, I would contact the Detroit Police Department."


wm

 

[Mountain_Kat]

You beat me to it, WM. I just saw that article on CNN and thought, "WHOA! Does our guy travel?!"

4 girls in AC, 4 girls in GB, 4 girls in Detroit. Interesting coincidence.

 

[smart blonde]

Ok. I am putting this in the rumor section because don't know how valid this is. But on the "official" LI Serial Killer site, some woman has been claiming she has info regarding the case. She has posted video she found on youtube claiming this might have been made by the killer. The videos are kinda disturbing.

Here is the link to the article. The comments where she posted is right after.
http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/05/two-more-murders-may-be-linked-to-long-island-killings/

The first video is here...at one point he turns the camera and there appears to be someone with a bag over there head, sitting in a chair.
http://youtu.be/cJsVgFPQt8o

The next one where she made the connection, when he turns the camera towards the tv, one of the victims is on it. And it does kinda look like her.
http://youtu.be/SXo0PbzpabA

Her post has time frames to find stuff quicker. I don't know if this has anything to do with the case, that's why I posted it in the rumor section.

Watching this man's Youtube videos, I couldn't at first decide if he might really be a 'SERIAL' like some people have suspected, and was quietly 'taunting' the viewer by showing 'clues', or.....

if he was simply a man with time on his hands, documenting his possessions, such as his books of art (he admires Man Ray's photography- so do I!), the artwork on his walls, his music collection, his treasures.

I spent too many hours with this guy this morning, watching the videos he put out there on the world-wide-web for public consumption. On one video, he even asked the viewer to, 'Please subscribe!!!' . So I did. I was strangely fascinated.

And then, I saw this next video, and it all made perfect sense. It explained why he only seemed to be fake-smoking his cigarette, (he could make a single cigarette last 15 minutes, re-lighting it endlessly in the course of one video) it explained his weight loss I'd been witnessing, the deep contemplation he seemed to be experiencing, all of it.

He wasn't trying to tease with sinister clues, he wasn't even just documenting his belongings. I think he was documenting his very existence, because he was uncertain of how much existence he even had left.

This video should explain, watch until the end, to see his facial expressions and obvious relief. Made me feel like giving him a hug:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuHAXW1jyDc&feature=related"]TheSurreal11's webcam video May 23, 2011 11:26 AM RADIATION TREATMENT ENDS ...THANKS 4 UR SUPPORT - YouTube[/ame]

For anyone who isn't familiar with it, that's not an S&M/ torture hood, or anything. It's a must-wear during radiation treatment.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Early on in this case, after CPH inserted himself in msm, some of us began snooping around and learned that the mrs. was a nurse who worked 3rd shift, 11pm-7am. I can't recall the name of the hospital where she allegedly worked. Mrs. stated on a news video that the only thing her husband was guilty of was being late for dinner. (paraphrased) Wouldn't it make sense that the 2 of them ate dinner before she left for her shift which began at 11pm. How would she know what the Mr is up to while she is working overnight? Wouldn't she most likely sleep during the day after her shift is over at 7am? What was Mr up to while she slept all day? Did he day sleep with her because he was up all night doing whatever?
My apologies for the rambling questions but this has been bothering me. I guess I am just trying to establish 'opportunity' for CPH to have commited these murders.

Does anyone else remember this info being discussed? TIA

I'm posting this as RUMOR since I don't have a link.

ETA If this is true, then CPH's free time would coincide with the times the GB 4 were last seen, IIRC.

wm

 

[Sillybilly]

This isn't current info WM and probably not much help, but here's a 2010 reunion newsletter of Columbia University, Presbyterian Hospital School of Nursing. It has an old pic where BLH's maiden name is used in conjunction with her married name:

Pgs 5 and 10

http://www.cuphsonaa.org/pubs/ColMag13NCN6_10.pdf

If BLH was working the night of May 1 when SG disappeared, sure wouldn't jive with the alibi of sleeping with the wife.

 

[KateNY]

wonder if LE checked BLH's schedule to see if she was off on May 1, or had worked that night

Interesting ( gotta lurk more) didn't realize she was an RN. Wonder if wifey helped the doc with...kitchen surgeries..


hwow:

 

[Dwntwnslim]

Do the perp's crimes require privacy? If so, would a kitchen provide enough privacy to carry out the murders?

 

[KateNY]

Might not be murders there

Some have mentioned snuff films, stuff of that nature

There could be other uses made of those bodies, or parts.....

Many have wondered just what SG may have seen...that put such a fear in her


Nah...

 

[kevmoley]

Watching this man's Youtube videos, I couldn't at first decide if he might really be a 'SERIAL' like some people have suspected, and was quietly 'taunting' the viewer by showing 'clues', or.....

if he was simply a man with time on his hands, documenting his possessions, such as his books of art (he admires Man Ray's photography- so do I!), the artwork on his walls, his music collection, his treasures.

I spent too many hours with this guy this morning, watching the videos he put out there on the world-wide-web for public consumption. On one video, he even asked the viewer to, 'Please subscribe!!!' . So I did. I was strangely fascinated.

And then, I saw this next video, and it all made perfect sense. It explained why he only seemed to be fake-smoking his cigarette, (he could make a single cigarette last 15 minutes, re-lighting it endlessly in the course of one video) it explained his weight loss I'd been witnessing, the deep contemplation he seemed to be experiencing, all of it.

He wasn't trying to tease with sinister clues, he wasn't even just documenting his belongings. I think he was documenting his very existence, because he was uncertain of how much existence he even had left.

This video should explain, watch until the end, to see his facial expressions and obvious relief. Made me feel like giving him a hug:
TheSurreal11's webcam video May 23, 2011 11:26 AM RADIATION TREATMENT ENDS ...THANKS 4 UR SUPPORT - YouTube

For anyone who isn't familiar with it, that's not an S&M/ torture hood, or anything. It's a must-wear during radiation treatment.

I think you are right about the cancer.. Here is a link that I think explains that he may have prostate cancer:

http://treatmentforprostatecancer.i...deo-april-8-2011-0543-pm-day-12-of-radiation/

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Throwing this out here because I find it interesting.

http://www.07020.com/forums/showthre...20priority=1.0

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-07/...ven-rogers-mark-walsh-russian-mob?_s=PM:CRIME