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  1. December

    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    [​IMG]

    Finally, a good photo of Kathy. And part of an article.

    It's sick they called it a "sex attack".. what the heck is up with that reporters from back in the day?
     
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    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    Daily Temperatures 11/27/1969 to 12/3/1969
    11/27 was Thanksgiving
    11/29 Kathy went missing
    12/1 Kathy died
    12/2 Kathy was found
    12/3 Kathy is at Ellis Funeral Home

    http://weathersource.com/account/of...-id=19899&latitude=36.0752&longitude=-86.7207

    ETA

    So, checking the highs.. it was warmer than I thought it was...

    ETA2
    temps (duh)
    11/27/69..high temp 50 degrees, low temp 29 degrees, mean temp 39.5 degrees
    11/28/69.. high temp 41 degrees, low temp 30 degrees, mean temp 35.5 degrees
    11/29/69... high temp 47 degrees, low temp 19 degrees, mean temp 33 degrees
    11/30/69... high temp 51 degrees, low temp 22 degrees, mean temp 36.5 degrees
    12/1/69... high temp 53 degrees, low temp 34 degrees, mean temp 43.5 degrees
    12/2/69... high temp 53 degrees, low temp 23 degrees, mean temp 38 degrees

    12/3/69... high temp 54 degrees, low temp 32 degrees, mean temp 43 degrees
     
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    At this Facebook page, The Nashville I Wish I Knew, people discussed their memories of the Hippodrome roller skating rink.

    https://www.facebook.com/thenashvilleiwishiknew/posts/542221469175466

    One of the folks posting at that link recalled that the refreshment stand at the Hippodrome sold Krispy Kreme donuts.

    Could the Rollerdrome also have sold Krispy Kreme donuts at their refreshment stand?

    Another thought occurred to me. Were the Hippodrome and the Rollerdrome skating rinks in Nashville owned by the same owners?

    Did these roller skating rinks have their own bus or did they share the same bus?
     
  9. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    These match the conditions I've been looking at on Weather Underground. I started with November 30, but you can click backward or forward. Scroll to the bottom to see weather conditions at three hour intervals.

    http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBNA/1969/11/30/DailyHistory.html
     
  10. nola

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    The Hippodrome closed in 1968, so the bus they would have used would have be defunct in 1969. There is always the possibility that Rollerdrome bus driver had worked for Hippodrome when they were open.
    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20061108/COLUMNIST0102/611080404/

    The 1964 Tennessean headline "Hippodrome Triangle Sold" announced the beginning of the end for that use on its part of the 4.5 acres between West End Avenue, Natchez Trace and 28th Avenue South.

    The plan was for a 13-story hotel, built as the largest Holiday Inn of its time in the South. The Holiday Inn Select is in business there today at 2613 West End Ave.

    Old-timers staged a "last lap" skating party March 26, 1968, before demolition began. A June 13 fire sparked by workers cutting its steel beams hastened the Hippodrome's demise.
     
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    Thanks for the greetings Bessie.

    After reading all the references to the Grandview Ave alley, I checked Google Maps and realized that it's currently still there! In fact, I believe all the alleys in that area are still being used. So....being the curious person I am, I drove down it. It discovered that it still runs the length from Thompson Lane to Newsome St (which is a block past Lutie). Depending on the time of day Kathy was walking, I wonder if she would have taken the alley to avoid the Nolensville Rd traffic? I doubt there was much happening through there on a Saturday. It would have taken her directly to KK.

    While looking at the lot where we believe Kathy was found, I wonder if KK has more land in the back (for parking) than it did in ’69. Was the current parking area actually part of the lot? I doubt they had a drive-thru back then. Also doubt the original building was as large. Just something else to ask LE.

    http://goo.gl/maps/oTZ2F [I haven't figured out how to post photos of the maps]

    I wonder which side of the lot Kathy’s body was found: street side or alley side?

    One last thing….Arnie, thank you for the map locations. I just wanted to mention for folks who haven’t been with us since the beginning: The RD was located at 523 Thompson Lane across the street and down a few buildings from KK. I know, December, that you posted a photo of the building that is currently in that location.

    OK...one more last thing. December, you were asking the size of Coleman Park. Even thought some of the photos make it look like a couple of football fields, you can stand at the intersection and see the complete layout. So it really isn't that large.
     
  12. bessie

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    I *think* nola's photo is the one at this link, a Gulf station where White Castle is presently located. I saw it awhile back while searching the site. It's on the opposite side of Thompson from the KK. The picture shows how the buildings were clustered close to each other, and close to the street. Typical for the era.

    http://www.southnashvillelife.com/2011/08/vintage-south-nashville-just-right-in.html
     
  13. bessie

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    I have a copy of the November 2009 Nashville Retrospect with the reprint of the Nashville Banner article by Larry Brinton dated December 2, 1969.

    Here are the facts from the portion not visible in the ad posted here Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TN TN - Kathy Jones, 12, murdered while walking to Nashville skating rink, November 1969.

    Some facts are new, some we already know, and some vary from other reports. I'm including all of them, paragraph by paragraph.

    • The Civil Defense team started searching Sunday night
    • Kathy left home headed to the skating rink at 7:45 P.M. on Saturday evening
    • "...an investigation disclosed" that she didn't make it to the rink.
    • A Metro policeman at the scene declared, "There had to be at least three persons involved in this." (Keep in mind, this is not an official statement. The officer didn't want to be identified, and it reads like an initial gut reaction. He goes on to say he would "probably want to kill" the persons responsible if he could catch them.)
    • K's nude body was lying 20' from the alley.
    • It couldn't be seen by searchers walking down the alley or the street.
    • Her skates and clothing were lying at her feet. (This description differs somewhat from the one reported by the Scene.)
    • K's blouse was used as a gag.
    • Two strips of cloth torn from the lining of her jacket were used to tie her wrists. (Answers the question about the plaid cloth some speculated might belong to the killer.)
    • Spectators were kept away from the scene while LE searched for clues.
    • According to an investigator, it "appeared" the sexual attack had taken place at the scene where K's body was found
    • Kathy left home by herself intending to walk to the skating rink.
    • She had not been there for "some time" because "she didn't want her two little brothers following her."
    • K's mom told the Banner that K earned $1.00 by helping her with housework on Saturday.
    • LE didn't say if the money was found at the scene.
    • After being taken to the funeral home, Metro M.E., Dr. T. E. Simpkins, was expected to perform "a detailed examination and possible autopsy". (This is not the same doctor we talked about earlier who was named in this article, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yHkcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fFEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6723,2584619)
    • LE at the scene said it was obvious K had been "criminally assaulted, probably before she was slain".
    • Parents were separated; father lived in Clarksville.
    • The plan was for K to call her mom when she finished skating, and her mom would pick her up.
    • When K didn't call, her mom went to the rink, but it was closed.
    • After hearing from Mrs. Jones that K had never run away, had no problems at home, and had told her mom she'd call when she was finished skating, the CD director ordered the unit to search.
     
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    Sorry, if my link is on the blink -- I can still see the photo, but here the shot is again (XX fingers crossed that it will work). This is identified as Nolensville at Thompson Lane.
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    And the link is the same blog that Bessie shared, just a different entry and photo. <Incidentally, I really like this blog> http://www.southnashvillelife.com/2010/03/nashvilles-history-in-pictures.html
     
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    To complete this list I'm adding what we already knew from the article.

    • Kathy Jones was a blonde, blue-eyed sixth grader
    • Her body was found 300 yards from the Roller Drome Skating Rink on Thompson Lane.
    • Kathy "apparently" was dead since Saturday night
    • She "probably" was attacked while walking to the skating rink.
    • She "apparently" suffocated
    • A sock was stuffed down her throat
    • Her blouse was "shoved into her mouth"
    • Lying face down in the tall weeds behind Krispy Kreme
    • A "faint trace of blood" on her stomach
    • She was wearing only one sock
    • A Civil Defense sergeant made the discovery
    • The Civil Defense team started searching Sunday night
    • A resident who lived next to the lot didn't hear unusual noises on Saturday night. She was away visiting relatives all day on Sunday.
    • Kathy left home headed to the skating rink at 7:45 P.M. on Saturday evening
    • "...an investigation disclosed" that she didn't make it to the rink.
    • A Metro policeman at the scene declared, "There had to be at least three persons involved in this." (Keep in mind, this is not an official statement. The officer didn't want to be identified, and it reads like an initial gut reaction. He goes on to say he would "probably want to kill" the persons responsible if he could catch them.)
    • K's nude body was lying 20' from the alley.
    • It couldn't be seen by searchers walking down the alley or the street.
    • Her skates and clothing were lying at her feet. (This description differs somewhat from the one reported by the Scene.)
    • K's blouse was used as a gag.
    • Two strips of cloth torn from the lining of her jacket were used to tie her wrists. (Answers the question about the plaid cloth some speculated might belong to the killer.)
    • Spectators were kept away from the scene while LE searched for clues.
    • According to an investigator, it "appeared" the sexual attack had taken place at the scene where K's body was found
    • The body was taken to a funeral home after an investigator from the DA's office arrived on the scene.
    • Kathy left home by herself intending to walk to the skating rink.
    • She had not been there for "some time" because "she didn't want her two little brothers following her."
    • K's mom told the Banner that K earned $1.00 by helping her with housework on Saturday.
    • LE didn't say if the money was found at the scene.
    • K was not "to the nylon-lipstick stage", according to her mother.
    • After being taken to the funeral home, Metro M.E., Dr. T. E. Simpkins, was expected to perform "a detailed examination and possible autopsy". (This is not the same doctor we talked about earlier who was named in this article, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yHkcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fFEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6723,2584619)
    • LE at the scene said it was obvious K had been "criminally assaulted, probably before she was slain".
    • Parents were separated; father lived in Clarksville.
    • The plan was for K to call her mom when she finished skating, and her mom would pick her up.
    • When K didn't call, her mom went to the rink, but it was closed.
    • After hearing from Mrs. Jones that K had never run away, had no problems at home, and had told her mom she'd call when she was finished skating, the CD director ordered the unit to search.
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9dpNu3jLO3tel9ab3o4WHlBYzQ&usp=sharing
     
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    Articles from December 3, 1969

    • Kathy died from suffocation around noon on Monday, December 1, 1969.
    • She "apparently" was held captive for 36 hours
    • Sixteen LEO's assigned to the case
    • Three persons were questioned. All were released.
    • One man was questioned and subsequently arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
    • K was a shy girl who wouldn't talk to strange men.
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yHkcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fFEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6723%2C2584619


    • Two men sought for questioning
    • One man in custody
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...rder kathy jones nashville tn&pg=4718,4334632
     
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    The first suspect was Adcox, the bus driver who's now deceased. He was actually arrested, but there wasn't enough evidence to build a case, so he was released. He remained a suspect at least as late as 2009.

    In 1998, Det. Miller stated he didn't think the bus driver was responsible. He was certain another man was the killer. I've always wondered how that panned out, and whether the unnamed person is a suspect today.

    http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/a-killing-a-search-a-suspect/Content?oid=1182733

    http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10774294
    http://www.wsmv.com/story/19024068/cold-case-detectives-seek-publics-help-in-grisly-killings
     

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