Trial Discussion Thread #8 - 14.03.17, Day 11

[zwiebel]

SR also met Fresco who was present a couple of times.

 

[Trooper]

saw Oscar in total. about 10 or 12 times.. he just shot away .

did Oscar ever tell you about an incident in his house re gunfire..

yes. he shot at a tumble dryer, he went into combat mode.. a code red.

when he came to the source of the noise, it was laundry machinery


Oscar was extremely keen on all this. Mr Fresco accompanied him on a few occasions .

an occasion at a house of mr John Bear's house..

introduced Oscar to Mr Bear.. completed paperwork.. re purchase of a gun?? drove there in Oscars Beamer


5 min adjournment asked by Roux

 

[Trooper]

sorry, I had this firearm blokes name wrong. its RENNS..

 

[zwiebel]

And met someone else too. Missed the name but Nel made point by asking what car they drove - white BMW, witness answered.

Roux asked for 5 mins adjournment.

 

[sorrell skye]

Well, OP clearly knew when it was legal to use deadly force and when it was not.

 

[zwiebel]

By his own hand, with his own sig, OP has demonstrated he was totally aware of all situations/rules/regs where lethal force could be used, and when it could not.

 

[zwiebel]

sorry, I had this firearm blokes name wrong. its RENNS..

Oh, I thought it was Reeves.

 

[Trooper]

Mrs Steenkamp is in court.. she lives in Port Elizabeth, not Pretoria..

apparently. Oscar muttered , Good morning Maam, to mrs Steenkamp..

gives her a nod..

 

[zwiebel]

Apparently OP said 'Good Morning Ma'am' to June.

 

[Trooper]

ll these tests did was show that Oscar knew what answers to give on the test, really.

in his head. obviously not

court is back.

 

[Really?]

5 minutes are gone........

 

[*Indigo*]

State establishing his obsession with guns, his recklessness in use of them and that he knew better.

 

[zwiebel]

All those pump-action, automatic whatever weapons. He wanted a small armoury....

 

[zwiebel]

Judge tells witness to speak up as there's 'a thing' making a noise behind her.

 

[zwiebel]

Roux talking about 'black talon'??

Witness says it's less lethal ammo.

 

[zwiebel]

R: On the range...you've seen OP shooting. From a distance of 2m or 3m, would it be easy for him to shoot through a door?

SR: Absolutely.

 

[Trooper]

back to RENCE.. gosh his name is difficult to grab

black talon ammo..

LESS lethal ammo??


Roux x-examining. Rence.


would you say, Oscar could shoot high into a door??

doesn't understand the question.

well. yes, he could..

ah.. Oscar is described as a collector OF GUNS..

IS there a link between COLLECTOR and RECKLESSNESS>>???

no. it would be contrary


Rence says, he teaches self defence, and then clearing your house in a sort of colour code system.

no futher questions from Roux

Nels asks. ( on re direct ) .. how many guns are you allowed to aquire?? as a normal person..

one shotgun, one pistol, one rifle one something else..

what is the way you can get MORE guns??

you need to be a dedicated collector, .. when you met Oscar he had a single pistol.

not a collected, not a ratified something or other that allows one to have more than 4 handguns.

end of that witness

 

[zwiebel]

SR: We teach self defence in a series of colour codes. If you hear something you would go from room to room, clearing your house.

Roux steps down!

Nel asks how many guns can you own.

SR says four. Unless you get a special license.

 

[zwiebel]

Warrant officer Von S?? up now.

 

[Trooper]

Von Staatden..... is the next witness...

he is the photographer??? I think