TX - Longview, WhtFem (UP 9863), 41-50, Suicide - Assumed Identity, Dec'10

[AstroKitty]

bookman, that was a terrific post

 

[Magnum P.E.]

I believe I know the meaning of the "CNA" and the "ours 303-293-2333" notations on the scratch paper from Jane Doe's lockbox. I think the fraud lawyer and oil company identifications previously mentioned are most likely red herrings.

I searched Google Books for the string 303-293-2333. On my computer, the second result was snippet views from the following book:

How to find missing persons: a handbook for investigators/ Ronald George Eriksen 2 [sic] (Loompanics; Port Townsend, Washington, 1984), pages 83 and 84.

This book exists in at least three versions: a staple-bound "true first edition" published by Loompanics in 1981 in their original Mason, Michigan location; the 1984 edition I refer to above; and a 1994 2nd edition, revised and expanded.

I was able to get my hands on the 1994 edition, but had to request a scan of the relevant Chapter 19 (Telephone Records) of the 1984 edition from a public library. Luckily, they came through quickly. See the attached two-page PDF (handwritten notes are mine).

The author explains "[f]ortunately, Ma Bell has secret telephone numbers called "C.N.A. Service numbers" which you call, give the number in question, and you will be told the name and usually the address which correspond with that number." He further explains that the numbers are changed "at regular intervals" and that the information he gives is good "as of the first of 1984."

Following is a table of area codes, with the corresponding C.N.A. numbers. The number 303-293-2333 matches seven area codes (note that Google Books only indexes two of them). According to Wikipedia, all seven were in the batch of original area codes instituted in 1947, and most served the entire referenced state until the 1990s or 2000s.

208 Idaho
303 Colorado
307 Wyoming
406 Montana
505 New Mexico
602 Arizona
801 Utah

My interpretation of Jane Doe's notes is that "ours" refers to her own area code sometime in the 1980s, possibly prior to her name changes. I lean toward Idaho or Arizona due to other elements in the story, but of course, I'm not sure.

Just to be clear, I am also not sure at all that Jane Doe used this particular book as a reference. I do think, however, that her notes almost certainly refer to the Customer Name and Address Service.

Bookman, this is major and puts a few questions to rest, at least in my mind. Loompanics published many books on getting a new identity. She did not need a broker.
What I wouldn't give to have the Loompanics mailing list from 1987-88! Pre internet, their books were sold by mail order.

 

[newshound81]

I don't know why.... just a hunch... but I think if we ever find out, her real middle name will start with an "E." The new name she chose for herself with middle initial "E" and then named her daughter with the middle initial "E." She worked so diligently on Blake's genealogy because she hated hers, or either didn't have one to speak of. She wanted differently for her daughter.

Another reason I think she is older than she states is her daughter's name choice. (I don't want to put it here...) First and middle name are names common to the late 70's/early 80's. I believe she was of childbearing age around those times, and named her daughter the name she had always dreamed of. The name choice would be rather uncommon in 2010. MOO

I thought the same thing last night! Another thing: what if she actually did have a daughter in the 70s or 80s and either had to give her up, had her taken away or she died? Maybe she gave her daughter the same name or parts of the first baby's name. Could explain why she was so protective of her daughter. Of course, there could be something more sinister there - child born of incest, shunned for pregnancy while underage/not married...maybe that's what prompted her new life.

 

[ClaireNC]

Cool beans! :rockon:
Then just Jennifer Wictor and Kim Mallon please? hehe.:blushing:
I'd do it myself, but I have no words for these things. And I don't know how to go about it. TIA

I agree. Will somebody please submit Jennifer Wictor and Kim Mallon? Aren't reports usually made by the person that discovers the possible connection? Besides, I don't really know how to go about doing it either. Who do you send the report to? The SSA investigator or the people listed in the NamUs file? Or both? Where do you get email addresses from to send investigators email?

I am starting to compile a list of possible matches that have been discussed here and the status of each.

Using the NamUs format of first name, last name, birth year and state last known alive.

Starting with those already ruled-out on Namus:
Clara Giusti 1962 Washington
Michelle Giusti 1961 Washington
Parley Pate 1959 North Carolina
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9863

Those most recently mentioned:
Submitted:
Sheri Lynn Johnson 1970 Missouri http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/johnson_sheri.html

To be Submitted:
Jennifer Wictor 1967 Arizona https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4925/29 http://doenetwork.org/cases/2994dfaz.html
Kim Mallon 1960 California https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4628 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallon_kim.html

Other possible matches mentioned here:
Melissa Sue Highsmith 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/highsmith_melissa.html
Cheryl Schille Wyant 1964 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1787dfwa.html
Stacey Lee Lynch 1961 Calfornia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lynch_stacey.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1080dfca.html Comments: height fits




Discussed and ruled out:
The story of the potential abduction http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66uffl.html Status, Timeline is off. LEK had already established a new identity in 1988, so why would she have been in danger in 1989? LEK was establishing her life in Texas by that time. Remarkable likeness, but not her.

Please list the potential victims that have been identified and I'll compile the list.

 

[AstroKitty]

I love a great mystery and this has all the markings. i feel for her child left behind. without knowing who her mother is, she's missing a ton of health related information. now with booman's help, we can start looking in this direction. im wondering if we are dealing with one hell of a con artist here. there are people who spend all their lives until they are caught doing this.

http://www.oddee.com/item_96600.aspx

 

[AstroKitty]

has anyone (i'm not suggesting sleuthing of the child) ran a google search on the daughters name in variation to see if that happens to be something connected with a missing person's case etc? i'm only asking because it's possible she borrowed that name too.

 

[T4Tide]

Someone look up Stacey Lee Lynch. Pic is weird, and I can't find another or more information. Height fits. Did she and her boyfriend really fall off the cliffs like suspected?


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[AstroKitty]

LR can be seen at this link in the back row on the right. http://www.ntxe-news.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=40&num=63743

10th pic down at this link is also LR. http://www.ntxe-news.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=39&num=62028&printer=1

I am certain that this has to be her. Now, who is she really?

bringing an old post forward because these photos give a great idea as to her height among other people.

a person that tall is striking. her implants are rather large too. if she was trying to fly unnoticed... she picked an odd way to do so. she would have been very noticing to people in the clubs she worked. she's tall enough to have done runway (although her measurements would have lined her up more with print and glamour verses runway/apparel).

when people are running and they have been known to work as dancers, they tend to dabble in other aspects of this line of work. if she was in Los Angeles (the stuff about n. hollywood) it's possible she tried to get gigs acting/modeling etc.

just rambling and thinking here. a nose job and breast implants are not cheap. i wonder where she had the breast aug done at? im guessing it was silicone given the time frame. a few years ago i paid 5,500 for mine and 10k for a nose job. that's an idea of cost you need to factor in to all of this. where on earth did she get that kind of money? i'm guessing she paid cash because anything else would have been discussed.

 

[AstroKitty]

& another thing, when i read about her hands being unusually long and her height .. her shoe size... my medical prof side peeked out. i wonder if she had this? given her genetic marker for heart issues - it's highly possible.

Marfan syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ClaireNC]

Someone look up Stacey Lee Lynch. Pic is weird, and I can't find another or more information. Height fits. Did she and her boyfriend really fall off the cliffs like suspected?


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Thanks. I added it to the list. The height certainly fits. Not sure about the rest of the story.

AstroKitty, Marfan Syndrome has been mentioned here in the thread many times. I am going to add it to the list of random facts/thoughts.

 

[T4Tide]

Thanks. I added it to the list. The height certainly fits. Not sure about the rest of the story.

Yes.... I was hunting a better pic on ancestory. Maybe she and her boyfriend wanted to run away, and somewhere along the line she wanted out?


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[AstroKitty]

Thanks. I added it to the list. The height certainly fits. Not sure about the rest of the story.

AstroKitty, Marfan Syndrome has been mentioned here in the thread many times. I am going to add it to the list of random facts/thoughts.

glad to know i'm not the only one who thought of it. i read to whatever page had the links to group photos and skipped to the end (patience is not my friend)

i just keep focusing on her focus regarding her hands. saying she was a hand model is actually a big statement. in the world of parts modeling, there are agencies with full specialities of such a thing. parts models are a slim few because of what is required. i wonder if she was being truthful and if so - where she did modeling at. agencies keep details of these things.

 

[hopeandglory]

glad to know i'm not the only one who thought of it. i read to whatever page had the links to group photos and skipped to the end (patience is not my friend)

i just keep focusing on her focus regarding her hands. saying she was a hand model is actually a big statement. in the world of parts modeling, there are agencies with full specialities of such a thing. parts models are a slim few because of what is required. i wonder if she was being truthful and if so - where she did modeling at. agencies keep details of these things.

I also find her "obsession" with her hands rather peculiar. I think she could be telling the truth about being a hand model, but at the same time I lean towards her focus on her hands stemming from something else. What, I don't know... Hrm. At first my mind wandered towards a diagnosis where you might get a random obsession with something (objects, body parts, whatever) but that might be a long shot.

It could be as simple as her hand modelling being what got her money to start over with her life.

 

[ashyboy16]

What about Cynthia Perry? Is someone going to submit her as well?

 

[jenstar]

I believe I know the meaning of the "CNA" and the "ours 303-293-2333" notations on the scratch paper from Jane Doe's lockbox. I think the fraud lawyer and oil company identifications previously mentioned are most likely red herrings.

I searched Google Books for the string 303-293-2333. On my computer, the second result was snippet views from the following book:

How to find missing persons: a handbook for investigators/ Ronald George Eriksen 2 [sic] (Loompanics; Port Townsend, Washington, 1984), pages 83 and 84.

This book exists in at least three versions: a staple-bound "true first edition" published by Loompanics in 1981 in their original Mason, Michigan location; the 1984 edition I refer to above; and a 1994 2nd edition, revised and expanded.

I was able to get my hands on the 1994 edition, but had to request a scan of the relevant Chapter 19 (Telephone Records) of the 1984 edition from a public library. Luckily, they came through quickly. See the attached two-page PDF (handwritten notes are mine).

The author explains "[f]ortunately, Ma Bell has secret telephone numbers called "C.N.A. Service numbers" which you call, give the number in question, and you will be told the name and usually the address which correspond with that number." He further explains that the numbers are changed "at regular intervals" and that the information he gives is good "as of the first of 1984."

Following is a table of area codes, with the corresponding C.N.A. numbers. The number 303-293-2333 matches seven area codes (note that Google Books only indexes two of them). According to Wikipedia, all seven were in the batch of original area codes instituted in 1947, and most served the entire referenced state until the 1990s or 2000s.

208 Idaho
303 Colorado
307 Wyoming
406 Montana
505 New Mexico
602 Arizona
801 Utah

My interpretation of Jane Doe's notes is that "ours" refers to her own area code sometime in the 1980s, possibly prior to her name changes. I lean toward Idaho or Arizona due to other elements in the story, but of course, I'm not sure.

Just to be clear, I am also not sure at all that Jane Doe used this particular book as a reference. I do think, however, that her notes almost certainly refer to the Customer Name and Address Service.

Bouncing off this post "made up" is the correct note on her scratch sheet.
There isn't an area code/prefix match for Tuscon Az 602-887-2926
http://www.thedirectory.org/pref/bypref/887.htm

 

[Crackerjack]

My first post-- found you guys through the Seattle times article and have been following along.

I think we should add the tea party angle, which I find weird for someone trying to fit into the southern landscape, but maybe not if she was wealthy... The vegetarian thing is a little weird too.

"Jackson" on the scribbled notes looks like two words to me-- Jack son, and could refer to her son or someone else's son.


I also found the photo last night of the taped-mouth girl supposed to be Tara, and I think it could fit. If the photo surfaced in 1989, that doesn't mean it was not taken earlier, and if LEK is not Tara, she could still be the girl in the photo.

I think we should make a list of all of the things on the scribble note paper and what they may refer to. I also think that the 402 months might be 40&2 or 40 2 months (perhaps referring to $40/2 months, etc.).

The handwriting changes could be linked with personality / mental disorders. I know this firsthand, because my daughter has an autoimmune disorder causing personality changes and her handwriting change change and deteriorate in a matter of seconds. The signature on the forged reference letter looks too different to be hers in my opinion. (I wish I had my handwriting analysis books handy, but don't...)

More later. Typing on the iPad is a pain.

 

[ClaireNC]

What about Cynthia Perry? Is someone going to submit her as well?

Great thought, ashyboy16, I think the fact that she used the nickname Lori is very relevant, even though her height is recorded as much shorter than FLEK. She did not live with her family from age 14 so she certainly could have grown taller during that time.

Here is the updated list. Somebody needs to step forward and say they are submitting names. If not, I'll go ahead and do it.

I am starting to compile a list of possible matches that have been discussed here and the status of each.

Using the NamUs format of first name, last name, birth year and state last known alive.

Starting with those already ruled-out on Namus:
Clara Giusti 1962 Washington
Michelle Giusti 1961 Washington
Parley Pate 1959 North Carolina
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9863

Those most recently mentioned:
Submitted:
Sheri Lynn Johnson 1970 Missouri http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/johnson_sheri.html


To be Submitted:
Jennifer Wictor 1967 Arizona https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4925/29 http://doenetwork.org/cases/2994dfaz.html
Kim Mallon 1960 California https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4628 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallon_kim.html
Cynthia Lorraine Perry 1968 North Carolina http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/perry_cynthia.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/8281


Other possible matches mentioned here:
Melissa Sue Highsmith 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/highsmith_melissa.html
Cheryl Schille Wyant 1964 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1787dfwa.html
Stacey Lee Lynch 1961 Calfornia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lynch_stacey.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1080dfca.html Comments: height fits


Discussed and ruled out:
The story of the potential abduction http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66uffl.html
Status: Timeline is off. LEK had already established a new identity in 1988, so why would she have been in danger in 1989? LEK was establishing her life in Texas by that time. Remarkable likeness, but not her.

 

[Bookman]

Bookman, this is major and puts a few questions to rest, at least in my mind. Loompanics published many books on getting a new identity. She did not need a broker.
What I wouldn't give to have the Loompanics mailing list from 1987-88! Pre internet, their books were sold by mail order.

Thanks, Magnum P.E. The old Loompanics catalogs were updated regularly, and are definitely findable. At the moment, a copy of "Loompanics Unlimited - 1989 Main Catalog" is offered for sale on abebooks for $20 by a San Francisco bookstore.

The old mailing list would indeed be interesting. Makes me wonder if this article is really believable.

http://boingboing.net/2011/07/20/fbi-releases-files-o-1.html
"The FBI has released its files on two famously controversial publishers, Paladin Press and Loompanics Unlimited, following a FOIA request filed by Government Attic. The files suggest that the booksellers' huge libraries of books on drugs, guns and other ultra-libertarian issues only rarely drew the FBI's attention."

 

[ClaireNC]

My first post-- found you guys through the Seattle times article and have been following along.

I think we should add the tea party angle, which I find weird for someone trying to fit into the southern landscape, but maybe not if she was wealthy... The vegetarian thing is a little weird too.

"Jackson" on the scribbled notes looks like two words to me-- Jack son, and could refer to her son or someone else's son.


I also found the photo last night of the taped-mouth girl supposed to be Tara, and I think it could fit. If the photo surfaced in 1989, that doesn't mean it was not taken earlier, and if LEK is not Tara, she could still be the girl in the photo.

I think we should make a list of all of the things on the scribble note paper and what they may refer to. I also think that the 402 months might be 40&2 or 40 2 months (perhaps referring to $40/2 months, etc.).

The handwriting changes could be linked with personality / mental disorders. I know this firsthand, because my daughter has an autoimmune disorder causing personality changes and her handwriting change change and deteriorate in a matter of seconds. The signature on the forged reference letter looks too different to be hers in my opinion. (I wish I had my handwriting analysis books handy, but don't...)

More later. Typing on the iPad is a pain.

Hi Crackerjack and Welcome!!

See my post above regarding the Tara, abducted woman from Florida.

 

[T4Tide]

The problem I have with Sheri Johnson is that she would have been taken as a small child, and presumably raised under another name. FLEK was obviously educated enough to pass her GED, get a business degree, and do all of this identity theft stuff. This means that if she was Sheri, she would have gone all through life with a name that worked. Why a new name in 1988? Was it because she wanted a driver's license and whoever raised her didn't have a birth certificate? If she knew her family history of coming from such an incident, why not bring it to light after the passing of those who committed crimes? If she didn't know the family history, why go to such lengths to hide? She would surely think she was just a regular girl, just like everybody.

Have we discussed transportation methods? How did she get to Idaho? And from Idaho to TX?