Will he be allowed to consult his defence for help before he next takes the stand?
The judge made it clear that he would not be allowed to talk to anyone, including his defence team, in the middle of giving evidence.
Will he be allowed to consult his defence for help before he next takes the stand?
Is it the case that she is not allowed to hear his testimony and answers as it could influence what she says when is it her turn?Nope. SaW was not in court.
I first assumed he meant that "Did you kill her" and "where you left her" to be two questions to trip him up that he might answer yes to the "left her" part of the question.
Not sure. But would have thought they would have needed prior evidence that he perhaps had trouble following things. I am sure most people accused of murder would find it extremely stressful. TBH I was extremely surprised that he is taking the stand .I’m wondering if the legal submissions might be a request from the defence to ask if the prosecution questions can be asked in a certain way as he has struggled to follow them, and this has caused him stress?? Anyone have any insights for us as to whether that sort of request could be considered?
He actually answers that question- No.
Leakage? he did not leave BW where he killed her?
I wonder if the Police will restart the search when the trial is over? That is supposing that it is not revealed before then.I’m actually increasingly surprised, especially now having read @helenvic’s posts that the police haven’t found Bee.
It seems like they have so much data to go on, so many triangulation points to work from, that it wouldn’t be quite as difficult to pinpoint as it seemed at first. Obviously I understand the practicalities, but I do find myself wondering just how much effort they’ve actually put into the search.
MOO
I’m wondering if the legal submissions might be a request from the defence to ask if the prosecution questions can be asked in a certain way as he has struggled to follow them, and this has caused him stress?? Anyone have any insights for us as to whether that sort of request could be considered?
That's my take on it. He didn't say "No, because I didn't kill her", he just said no.... How soon after that did he break down Helenvic? From reading your post it seems like he realised that he'd slipped up.
Is it the case that she is not allowed to hear his testimony and answers as it could influence what she says when is it her turn?
The more I think of that question the more brilliant I think it is. If he answers "yes" then he admits he killed her, and if he answers "no" it means he didn't leave her where he killed her. Either way he killed her. He then replies "no" when if he was innocent he would have answered with "I did not kill her".Did you leave her where you killed her, Mr. Walker?”
“Sorry?”
“Did you leave her where you killed her, Mr. Walker?”
“No. ... Two questions again.”
He actually answers that question- No.
Leakage? he did not leave BW where he killed her?
The more I think of that question the more brilliant I think it is. If he answers "yes" then he admits he killed her, and if he answers "no" it means he didn't leave her where he killed her. Either way he killed her. He then replies "no" when if he was innocent he would have answered with "I did not kill her".
That’s my thoughts exactly! If someone asked me that question I would reply that I didn’t kill them because no means I killed her but moved her and yes means she is where I killed her stillThe more I think of that question the more brilliant I think it is. If he answers "yes" then he admits he killed her, and if he answers "no" it means he didn't leave her where he killed her. Either way he killed her. He then replies "no" when if he was innocent he would have answered with "I did not kill her".
Just some thoughts:
ScW leaves with BW on Saturday 18th July from Dukesmead at 11:06. There is then a gap of 10 mins. His phone records him travelling 11:16-23 through Werrington and into the Gunthorpe and Dogsthorpe areas (I don't quite see how Dogsthorpe fits in unless he's not sure where to go). At some point, but presumably after this, he's on foot in the Gunthorpe area. 410 steps are recorded on his phone which with average steps is about 300m. His phone then switches back on again in Gunthorpe area at 12:54. He could have strangled BW in the car in the 10 minute gap and shoved her into the footwell only to stop somewhere in the Gunthorpe area to hide the body temporarily. Would the Barn Garden Centre be classed as Gunthorpe area? How far beyond the A15 would still ping the Gunthorpe mast?
He then returned in the early hours of the 19th to do a permanent burial, leaving his phone in Uldale Way, which is a short distance to the Barn Garden Centre and the quiet lanes up towards Newborough.
Answering my own question: The phone mast is behind the Barn Garden Centre. So I would guess that a considerable radius around the mast would be classed as Gunthorpe area. There is a fairly solid locked metal gate into field with the mast compound but given the privacy entry to this area would give it would be ideal to leave a body and to return to in the night. There's some very scrubby looking areas to the far side of the field, for instance. Was he sufficiently skilled as a locksmith to get beyond the gate?Just some thoughts:
ScW leaves with BW on Saturday 18th July from Dukesmead at 11:06. There is then a gap of 10 mins. His phone records him travelling 11:16-23 through Werrington and into the Gunthorpe and Dogsthorpe areas (I don't quite see how Dogsthorpe fits in unless he's not sure where to go). At some point, but presumably after this, he's on foot in the Gunthorpe area. 410 steps are recorded on his phone which with average steps is about 300m. His phone then switches back on again in Gunthorpe area at 12:54. He could have strangled BW in the car in the 10 minute gap and shoved her into the footwell only to stop somewhere in the Gunthorpe area to hide the body temporarily. Would the Barn Garden Centre be classed as Gunthorpe area? How far beyond the A15 would still ping the Gunthorpe mast?
He then returned in the early hours of the 19th to do a permanent burial, leaving his phone in Uldale Way, which is a short distance to the Barn Garden Centre and the quiet lanes up towards Newborough.
Answering my own question: The phone mast is behind the Barn Garden Centre. So I would guess that a considerable radius around the mast would be classed as Gunthorpe area. There is a fairly solid locked metal gate into field with the mast compound but given the privacy entry to this area would give it would be ideal to leave a body and to return to in the night. There's some very scrubby looking areas to the far side of the field, for instance. Was he sufficiently skilled as a locksmith to get beyond that gate?Just some thoughts:
ScW leaves with BW on Saturday 18th July from Dukesmead at 11:06. There is then a gap of 10 mins. His phone records him travelling 11:16-23 through Werrington and into the Gunthorpe and Dogsthorpe areas (I don't quite see how Dogsthorpe fits in unless he's not sure where to go). At some point, but presumably after this, he's on foot in the Gunthorpe area. 410 steps are recorded on his phone which with average steps is about 300m. His phone then switches back on again in Gunthorpe area at 12:54. He could have strangled BW in the car in the 10 minute gap and shoved her into the footwell only to stop somewhere in the Gunthorpe area to hide the body temporarily. Would the Barn Garden Centre be classed as Gunthorpe area? How far beyond the A15 would still ping the Gunthorpe mast?
He then returned in the early hours of the 19th to do a permanent burial, leaving his phone in Uldale Way, which is a short distance to the Barn Garden Centre and the quiet lanes up towards Newborough.
Answering my own question: The phone mast is behind the Barn Garden Centre. So I would guess that a considerable radius around the mast would be classed as Gunthorpe area. There is a fairly solid locked metal gate into field with the mast compound but given the privacy entry to this area would give it would be ideal to leave a body and to return to in the night. There's some very scrubby looking areas to the far side of the field, for instance. Was he sufficiently skilled as a locksmith to get beyond the gate?
Answering my own question: The phone mast is behind the Barn Garden Centre. So I would guess that a considerable radius around the mast would be classed as Gunthorpe area. There is a fairly solid locked metal gate into field with the mast compound but given the privacy entry to this area would give it would be ideal to leave a body and to return to in the night. There's some very scrubby looking areas to the far side of the field, for instance. Was he sufficiently skilled as a locksmith to get beyond that gate?