GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #9
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This pic shows the carpark. JY entrance down path on L/H side of pic. Bay windows on right (partially obscured by tree) is another bedroom (VT) according to floor plans shown online.
They may not be consciously lying though. If he was only an hour and a bit behind his original schedule - the actual journey time could have been partly made up with, e.g. taking shortcuts to and from the motorway, driving a bit faster than usual, not taking any breaks during the journey - then at the other end a bit of subliminal manipulation of his relatives to convince them he wasn't really late - e.g. bad weather, traffic holdups etc, casually looking at his watch and taking half an hour off the time when he got there.....all adding up to not much later than expected as far as they're concerned......
Or is that just my really devious mind working overtime? :innocent:
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but could he be absolutely certain, the alarm wouldn't be raised before then? I personally believe (IF it was him) he dumped her on his way to Sheffield (@10pm) supposing she had been found? I know she had no ID, but supposing it had been reported that the body of a young female had been found? supposing the cat was crying loudly in the property and alerted the neighbours that something wasn't quite right, a number of things could have happened to have raised an alarm earlier....iygwim? CJ had a key and could have let a concerned relative/friend in if they were that worried.... GR wouldn't have risked touching anything that placed him there once she returned home.....
sorry I'm going round the houses to make a simple point!
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How does this neighbour know what was said to Jefferies, were they there or told later? Would also be interesting to see which neighbour we are talking about, same with the one who allegedly heard the scream at midnight. This could all be a deflection tactic by someone.
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From my travels to Holland I have only ever found the Dutch to be well spoken and incredibly articulate in their use of the English language. As for culture .... we are all European.... not that different are we?
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Hi all! have been 'lurking' for a while, and agree with all the others that this is a definitely a MUCH friendlier place.
Just a note on the burnt out car, I did note when walking my dog on the Clifton Downs on the New Year bank holiday Monday that there was a burnt out estate car near the junction of Ladies Mile and the Circular Road. I would assume that has been discounted by the LE, it was in such an obvious place.
That's interesting! Did you report it? Do you happen to know if it's still there, or been removed? If so, where to I wonder?
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I remember you saying that! did you ever report it??
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Well, something doesn't add up. He told Hardyman he saw three people and assumed they were coming from Joanna's flat. He told Liz Lowman he saw them around the communal area at the other side of the building. So, I wonder which one he told the police and why those two people have repeated different accounts about what he told them.
Yes I thought the same, they would have had to be very close by, or involved in the conversation to hear what was said.
Also since the conversation was on the drive, it most likely would have been a neighbour from that block of Flats.
The wrong attitude maybe, I didn't report it, as it was in such an obvious place with joggers a plenty running past it, and on January the 3rd the story was really big in the newspapers, I assumed it must have been discounted.
I'm not sure if its still there.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...-by-his-arrest-115875-22864361/#ixzz1BlXBnNdJ
I wonder why NUA and GF had the smaller bedroom, surely would make more sense to occupy larger. I'm surmising of course they slept together.
Interesting to see smaller bedroom adjacent to Jo and Gregg's.
I wonder why NUA and GF had the smaller bedroom, surely would make more sense to occupy larger. I'm surmising of course they slept together.
Interesting to see smaller bedroom adjacent to Jo and Gregg's.
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As for what neighbours have told the press who have 'reported' it to us about what CJ told them (the neighbours) - I take all of that with a pinch of salt.
Where this is concerned, only what has been heard coming out of CJ's mouth (unedited), or in a Police briefing can be considered. jmo.
The exact same thoughts went through my head yesterday when I saw the layout in the papers.
For those believing the body was dumped just before Christmas Day, when Joanna was found, it is conceivable that the delay could well be because NUA did not have access to a car and had to bide his time? Just a thought.
Also I am surprised that my parents report to LE of seeing a dark 4x4 parked strangely on Longwood Lane on Christmas Eve (to such an extent that they remarked on it) has never been followed up.
Also I am surprised that my parents report to LE of seeing a dark 4x4 parked strangely on Longwood Lane on Christmas Eve (to such an extent that they remarked on it) has never been followed up.
You never mentioned they'd seen a dark 4x4 in your original post, just that they'd driven up and down the lane several times? Have LE not been back in touch with your parents at all? Were they able to take a reg number?
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Where was it parked. Near the Quarry entrance?
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