UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #20

[mrjitty]

I'm surprised such detailed forensics from a completely different case which he has already been found guilty of has been allowed? Will have a profound effect on the jury

It is certainly important that this evidence has been allowed.

But I suspect he let it in when he claimed he was in the area to go running.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

 

[Newthoughts]

Another male!!! Im hoping this was the owners partner/acquaintance. Im still questioning why he had two Halloween masks in his car boot with his other trophies.

Yes I did wonder. I'm hoping the owners partner if not we're in real scary territory

 

[Winterbells]

I think most of us are working purely on the probabilities suggested by the evidence. And the evidence so far is pretty damning.

I agree. But are probablilties and suggestions enough for a jury to justify a guilty verdict?

 

[mrjitty]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

For me the defence case is a dumpster fire.

He blew it up when he lied to police.

The one straw they will grasp is the uncertainty as to how she actually died.

 

[Vera_dci]

He was that concerned that he pleasured himself and watched ? He was that concerned he only spent 4 minuites in the park 'searching' for her. He was that concerned when a friend said to tell the police he said it wasn't her. His actions after say to me he knew where libby was and he knew she wasn't alive.

 

[LucyRocket]

But without evidence that PR killed Libby and then put her in the water, how can a jury convict him of murder?

Because he was the last person to be with her when she died, because he removed her from a place where she was vulnerable but alive and took her to a place where she died, because he has a known background of being a risk to women then she's in his company and dies, because all of the forensic evidence puts no one else with her only him, right up to the point she died

 

[Skigh]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

Guilty for me too.

 

[mrazda71]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

GUILTY

 

[jamjim]

15:39
Intimate contact
Mrs Taylor says because the DNA match of Relowicz was at a similar level to the person who they belonged to, it would suggest intimate contact which could be explained by him using to masturbate with them.

She said if she is given an explanation - for example, Relowicz saying he just moved the underwear - she can say whether that is or is not a possibility.

Libby Squire trial live: Expert on her chances of surviving in river

 

[jamjim]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

Guilty.

 

[jamjim]

15:41
Prosecution's case finished

Prosecution’s case has now finished and the trial will resume on Monday at 10.30am.

Libby Squire trial live: Expert on her chances of surviving in river

 

[JosieJo]

I worry about taking exerts that fit from expert witnesses and ignoring others ..it doesn't sit well with me
Eg ..the pathologist said quite clearly he could not give a cause of death

Prosecution had him say she could have been asphyxiated
Defence had him say she could have drown

To me personally no help at all ...im not about to try and read between the lines and say ..well he meant this or you could tell by his words he meant that

 

[JusticeDT]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

Guilty for me and I cannot see that the defence will have much to change this. He has lied at every juncture.

 

[Skigh]

Thanks for today's updates,JamJim. Hope you have a relaxing weekend,ready for the defence next week.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

Guilty for me. MOO

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Straw poll? On the jury, guilty or not guilty?

It's guilty for me at this point.

Guilty.

 

[Winterbells]

He was that concerned that he pleasured himself and watched ? He was that concerned he only spent 4 minuites in the park 'searching' for her. He was that concerned when a friend said to tell the police he said it wasn't her. His actions after say to me he knew where libby was and he knew she wasn't alive.

I know he wasn't in the slightest bit concerned. But his defence will claim he only became concerned after he'd had time to think about it. He could see, when he got to the park, that she'd gone - it was quiet, no-one around etc. He was scared to tell the police because he's got his own stuff to worry about blah blah blah.

 

[JosieJo]

Straw pole

Guilty ..based on his past convictions , lies and general behaviour

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Thanks for the updates @jamjim