GUILTY UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor* #5

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Dotta said:
I just have a feeling that JC defence closing speech was just a "token" defence.
But maybe not all has been reported.

It speaks a lot of his character, that not 1 of his family members talked on his behalf.

MOO
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Maybe he hasn't got any family o_O

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Stumpyaura said:
“Logan called John Cole ‘daddy’... are you going to write him off as the prosecution want you to do?" Mr Elias asked the jury.

Jury urged to consider 'who is being manipulative' in boy's murder trial | ITV News

I can understand casting doubt in the mind of jurors or aspersions at AW, but portraying JC as a benevolent father figure is surely going to go down badly with jurors?!
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Absolutely. Just because a young child refers to someone as mum or dad, that does not necessarily mean it is truly a term of endearment.

Sometimes a child is forced to use that term. Or they wisely figure out it might help them soften up an angry adult that they fear?
 
I predict that AW's Defence Closing Speech will be (in contrast to JC's) rather long, resembling a so called "sob story", highlighting her numerous ailments, etc.

It might even contain a letter from her mother, praising her daughter as a good and devoted mum led astray and terrorized by "a monster".
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The more I think about it, the more I think it is a mistake, for JC not to point specifically to one of the others as the abuser> IF THAT IS TRUE.

It was really weird the way his barrister said ' what if maybe someone else in the house suddenly killed Logan, before JC could do anything to stop it? '

Okay---Then let's hear it. Who killed him and when ? If you want to convince the jury that it was the malicious or manipulative housemate that is the real killer, then go ahead and describe what happened.

I feel that if he really was innocent and he did see AW actually kill her son, JC would have said so. JMO
 
10:54Philip Dewey

'You cannot allow emotion to dictate your evaluation of the evidence'

The trial resumes.

Peter Rouch QC, for Williamson, begins his closing speech.

He says cases involving the death of a child are “emotive” but said the jury were the “sole judges” of the evidence and it’s up to them to accept or reject the evidence.

Mr Rouch said: “What you can’t do is blindly accept evidence and you can’t simply dismiss evidence without carrying out a property appraisal and serious consideration of it and you cannot allow emotion to dictate your evaluation of the evidence however difficult that may be.

“What you have to be is clinical in the way you approach your job. The only way justice can be done is to approach the evidence in a dispassionate and objective, cool and calculated way. You have to look at the evidence forensically…..

“You are judges in this case and everyone agrees judges, from umpires and referees upwards, have to approach their task in a fair, balanced, evenhanded and objective way……..

“It’s not an easy task because we are dealing with the killing of an innocent five-year-old little boy.

“The prosecution has to prove its case so the prosecution has to present it and starts with the prosecution opening their case to you and tell the jury what their case is all about.

“The problem is the prosecution can tell you what their case is about one aspect of the case or evidence and the prosecution can tell you on the evidence they rely in relation to the aspect. There is the danger your judgement is thereafter completely clouded and jaundiced.”



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11:28Philip Dewey

Body worn footage

Mr Rouch refers to the body-worn footage of Williamson taken by police after Logan had been reported missing.

He said: “You were told the behaviour of Angharad Williamson caught on police body-worn video footage on the morning of the Saturday was a complete sham. We were told she was up at the time Logan’s body was taken out of the flat and you were told that could be established through CCTV footage and telephone usage evidence.

“The CCTV was played to you of lights coming on and off and curtain movement after John Cole and (the youth) had left the flat with Logan’s body and when the phone usage was explained to you and when the body-worn footage was played.

“By the time you watched that body worn video footage you had already been conditioned to the proposition it was a complete sham.

“How many of you looked at that footage, at that behaviour and demeanour of Angharad Williamson in a fair and objective way, without the preconception that had been drummed into you that it was a sham.

“Be it the case in your minds you have condemned her of that and accept in your own minds it was a sham performance.

“If it hadn’t have been drummed into you and the only information you had was a child had gone missing, the police had turned up at the scene and videoed the scene and in the course of that video captured the reaction of the child’s mother, isn’t it true you would have watched that footage in an objectiver, open and fair way and would have probably said to yourself ‘Look at the distress of that woman’.”

“She may be demonstrative, some people are and some people don’t show their feelings in the most extreme circumstances but others can’t help it. If you were sitting at home watching that video on the news, would you have condemned her? Would you have said ‘Look at that sham?’ or would you have looked at it in an objective way?”

Mr Rouch said the jury would have to look at it again afresh and added: “I accept it’s difficult but that’s what you have got to do and look at the evidence in this case objectively and dispassionately.”



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11:34Philip Dewey


'You can't fake that'


Mr Rouch refers to witness evidence about Williamson’s actions and demeanour.

He said the prosecution had asked witnesses if they had seen Williamson’s tears but he asked the jury if they had heard the phrase ‘All cried out’.

He also said witnesses had described Williamson as crying, hysterical, distraught, heaving and vomiting.

The barrister said: “You can’t fake that, members of the jury.”

Mr Rouch referred to evidence from an officer who witnessed Williamson suffering a seizure, and the witness’ assertion it was consistent with other people suffering seizures.

He also made reference to Williamson’s friend Rhiannon Hales describing her as a “broken woman”.

He said: “Clare Williamson said she had no doubt in her mind (Williamson’s) grief was genuine. What she experienced at the hospital was genuine distress…

“What you see on the body-worn footage, is it a sham? It’s melodramatic but it’s not a sham.

“In a criminal trial, you only see a snapshot of the people involved in it when looking at the body worn footage, look at it in an objective way and look at the overwhelming evidence which speaks of genuine distress. Look at those who knew her personality, not those who just saw a snapshot.”



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