Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #15 *ARREST*

[Whiteorchids]

Is there a Home Depot or Lowe’s near his house? Killers usually shop for supplies there before or after a murder. They always have security video.

 

[DD8]

One unburned hair could be "female tissue" if it was enough for analysis.

No use speculating on what the tissue was, only that somehow, part of Kenzie ended up in a fire at the suspect's house. In the backyard. In a fire being tended by him.

Whatever it was, it was apparently enough to charge him with murder. Unless they found other evidence not mentioned to the public of course. Something told them without a doubt that she was dead.

 

[MassGuy]

I don't believe the park's cameras were fake. iirc, the cameras weren't working. Perhaps he is the one who ensured they were not working. I do think he's smart enough to know to turn off his own cameras.

JMO

They were fake.

“Hatch Park doesn’t have any cameras. We have some ‘dummy cameras’,” said North Salt Lake City Manager Ken Leetham. “This park’s right on the main street, it’s right near the police station, and so it gets a lot of attention. A lot of eyes are on this park,” he added.

Investigators find ‘dummy cameras’ at Mackenzie Lueck’s last known location

 

[ilovechili]

We don’t know the time between the meetup at the park and when they went to the house. I’m not sure that’s even relevant.

I could care less and am not concerned if it is relevant other than ensuring something that is not fact becomes fact. I figured I may have missed something. I also do not know where the talk of luggage being put in the trunk is coming from so apparently I did miss something. I like to know the facts that we do have from LE and was simply asking. The only PC I saw was intentionally it seemed vague and AC Doubt would not even answer whether she was seen getting in the car when asked and in fact I think it was said they did not know the answer to that to my recollection.

Jmo.

 

[RANCH]

Don’t you think he turned them off he had lots of cameras? If he was worried about being seen at the airport goes to a park with fake cameras I would think he would turn then off before he left but he isn’t that smart.

I wonder if he did turn cameras off with an app if it left a digital record of that happening?

That could be incriminating evidence if it coincides with the times involved with this case. JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Meaningless statistics considering we don't know the details of the relationship or if they had ever met in person.

JMO

Well, I'm sorry I couldn't link the one I wanted for some reason. But, I think we're close to derailing the thread with this anyway. You can always Google if you're interested in studying victim/offender relationships. Lots of information out there that can help you understand it. MOO

 

[LaborDayRN]

Is there a Home Depot or Lowe’s near his house? Killers usually shop for supplies there before or after a murder. They always have security video.

Or a Walmart.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I was right they were fake dummy surveillance cameras at hatch park.

'Dummy surveillance cameras' at Hatch Park didn’t capture Lueck's last known contact

 

[GordianKnot]

I wouldn’t doubt it. Hell, even his cameras probably have cameras.

I’m super curious as to exactly how many law enforcement found, and what their true purpose was.

Well, I doubt dude was using them to conduct sleep studies.

I'm just sayin.'

 

[Seattle1]

It could mean a lot of things but I want to know how they were conclusive that ML was dead at that time.

With nothing else to go by, I'm crediting advancements in forensic testing, and that dogs may have smelled decomposition in AA's vehicle, or at the suspects residence.

A suspect in Tx was arrested for tampering with evidence of a human corpse, more than 4 weeks before the body was located -- yet somehow LE knew the 4 year old child was deceased -- allegedly from traces of blood located in the bathroom of her home. MOO
Blood of Missing 4-Year-Old Texas Girl Found in Her Apartment, as Stepdad Is Charged

 

[Whiteorchids]

Or a Walmart.

How could I forget about Walmart. Lol

 

[MyBelle]

It doesn’t require them to use university email. Someone mentioned that, but I also mentioned my personal experience with these sites and that’s not the case.

“Sugar daddy” dating sites such as SeekingArrangement.com are aggressively targeting college students — with free premium memberships for signing up under an .edu email plus plenty of assurances that being a “sugar baby” is safe, empowering and profitable.

But sugar babies typically do not, in fact, have control over these relationships, which often turn dangerous and exploitative, experts said Wednesday at a “World Without Exploitation Youth Summit” held in Downtown Brooklyn for high school and college students.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/18/summi...-at-the-dangerous-world-of-sugar-daddy-sites/

 

[SoCalGirl]

I’m stuck on the luggage. Did it go in the Lyft trunk? Did the driver take it out for her? I doubt it was in the back seat. So she had to have some interaction with the Lyft driver, in order to get her luggage. And then did she wheel it over to her ride, who popped the trunk or got out to assist her? Do you think that the Lyft driver provided more info than has been revealed? What is the parking like at Hatch Park? Would the Lyft driver just pull up to a random spot, and her ride would be visible, or is it big enough that she would have to look around for his car? Do you think there is a text between the two, like, “I’m here, where are you?”

Saw pictures of Hatch Park and the parking lot is not big. Pulling in at 3 am, you'd see another car in the lot. LE hasn't revealed much of what the Lyft driver told them. So, we don't know if someone got out of the other car to get ML's luggage, if the Lyft driver got out to get her luggage, if the other driver stayed in the car, got out of the car, helped with luggage, if the luggage went in the trunk or the backseat, etc. We just don't know. We really don't even know if the Lyft driver saw the driver or the car. LE told the public he didn't, but that may not be true. We don't know if the Lyft driver saw ML get into the other car. LE has been tight-lipped about the Lyft driver's statements.

 

[PommyMommy]

Or a Walmart.

A Walmart is always involved somehow, lol!

 

[LaborDayRN]

A Walmart is always involved somehow, lol!

 

[TrutherSleuther]

“Sugar daddy” dating sites such as SeekingArrangement.com are aggressively targeting college students — with free premium memberships for signing up under an .edu email plus plenty of assurances that being a “sugar baby” is safe, empowering and profitable.

But sugar babies typically do not, in fact, have control over these relationships, which often turn dangerous and exploitative, experts said Wednesday at a “World Without Exploitation Youth Summit” held in Downtown Brooklyn for high school and college students.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/18/summi...-at-the-dangerous-world-of-sugar-daddy-sites/

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You get a free trial if you have a “.edu” but it isn’t full access to premium forever. It’s a trial. After that you have the same access as everyone else, unless you pay. Which is what most use.

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[Whiteorchids]

Saw pictures of Hatch Park and the parking lot is not big. Pulling in at 3 am, you'd see another car in the lot. LE hasn't revealed much of what the Lyft driver told them. So, we don't know if someone got out of the other car to get ML's luggage, if the Lyft driver got out to get her luggage, if the other driver stayed in the car, got out of the car, helped with luggage, if the luggage went in the trunk or the backseat, etc. We just don't know. We really don't even know if the Lyft driver saw the driver or the car. LE told the public he didn't, but that may not be true. We don't know if the Lyft driver saw ML get into the other car. LE has been tight-lipped about the Lyft driver's statements.

If there was another car that time of morning. Who else would be there?

 

[MyBelle]

They were fake.

“Hatch Park doesn’t have any cameras. We have some ‘dummy cameras’,” said North Salt Lake City Manager Ken Leetham. “This park’s right on the main street, it’s right near the police station, and so it gets a lot of attention. A lot of eyes are on this park,” he added.

Investigators find ‘dummy cameras’ at Mackenzie Lueck’s last known location

Wow. I bet LE are outraged. The public also should be outraged.

 

[Seattle1]

I’m stuck on the luggage. Did it go in the Lyft trunk? Did the driver take it out for her? I doubt it was in the back seat. So she had to have some interaction with the Lyft driver, in order to get her luggage. And then did she wheel it over to her ride, who popped the trunk or got out to assist her? Do you think that the Lyft driver provided more info than has been revealed? What is the parking like at Hatch Park? Would the Lyft driver just pull up to a random spot, and her ride would be visible, or is it big enough that she would have to look around for his car? Do you think there is a text between the two, like, “I’m here, where are you?”

I believe reports were that ML did not appear to be distressed (per Lyft driver), and that ML and her contact at Hatch Park greeted each other in a friendly manner.

The contact was not publicly identified as male or female, and no confirmation who loaded the luggage in the contacts vehicle.

I also have no doubt that LE knows this information. MOO

 

[RANCH]

They were fake.

“Hatch Park doesn’t have any cameras. We have some ‘dummy cameras’,” said North Salt Lake City Manager Ken Leetham. “This park’s right on the main street, it’s right near the police station, and so it gets a lot of attention. A lot of eyes are on this park,” he added.

Investigators find ‘dummy cameras’ at Mackenzie Lueck’s last known location

I'm not sure what's worse, not having operational cameras to help with public safety or nullifying any kind of deterrent the fake cameras may have by publicly announcing that they don't work . JMO