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Discussion in 'Luka Rocco Magnotta AKA Eric Newman' started by Salem, Dec 13, 2014.

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    Finally - the jury is going out to deliberate. This thread is to discuss and chat while you wait.

    Crossing fingers the right decision is made here!

    Salem
     
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    The judge will charge the jury on Monday, 15 December 2014. Then, they will be sequestered until a verdict is reached.

    I'd love to know what the judge instructs them. :thinking:

    Hope they reach a decision we can all live peacefully with. Especially Jun Lin's parents.

    :scared:
     
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    I don't like to tempt fate, but I think we are on to a winning verdict ;) . God bless Jun Lin, Jun Lin's parents, family and friends, the whole of Canada and the rest of the world - it has touched us all.

    I would hope that when Magnotta is found guilty of all charges (we have to believe in justice guys), that the last thread has nothing to do with Magnotta, but dedicated to Jun Lin and his family.

    There is so much bad in the world and it is increasing year by year, but we must always remember that there is more good than bad.
     
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    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Let's hope the jury gets it right. :jail:

    MOO
     
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    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    RIP Lin Jun :rose:

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    We have a 'Remembrance Thread' here ~
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?176357-RIP-Lin-Jun
     
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    Judge and lawyers are in:

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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 22m 22 minutes ago

    Jury expected to be sequestered later today after the judge's instructions. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 22m 22 minutes ago

    Judge still expected to begin instructions to jury then.2 of the 14 jurors will not deliberate & that will be decided by lottery. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 24m 24 minutes ago

    Legal matters being hashed out before the jury arrives at 11 am. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 28m 28 minutes ago

    Legal discussions over. Back in 40. #Magnotta
     
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    Please read from bottom up:


    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6s 6 seconds ago

    But judge stresses it's not a loose term, there's specific criteria. Must not use own ideas of what law is or should be. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 43s 43 seconds ago

    Judge: non criminal responsibility. Each of you may have own idea what it may include. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: you must accept law from me without question. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: errors in my judgement can be argued in Court of Appeal. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: you are judge of facts, I am judge of law. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge says giving them help to make their decision not what decision to make. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge says will explain about non criminal responsibility, each side's arguments, possible verdicts. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Judge says must keep in mind to decide this case must rely on what jury remembers and not what he or the lawyers say there was. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Judge: all evidence equally important unless told otherwise. Explain duties as jurors,define types evidence,specific rules law. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Judge says to jury they will soon leave & discuss case,time for him to tell them about the the law they must follow for decision. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6m 6 minutes ago

    Jury has arrived. #Magnotta trial- Day 43 starts now. #CJAD
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 7m 7 minutes ago

    Getting the jury. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 8m 8 minutes ago

    Break is over. Judge has returned. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 8s 8 seconds ago

    Judge: prejudice and sympathy.You must make decision without these or fear,not be influenced by public opinion,do it impartially. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: you must make your decision only on evidence in courtroom. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Has crown proven beyond reasonable doubt of accused's guilt or innocence? #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 21s 22 seconds ago

    Judge:must consult each other in orderly discussion,express own points of view without being repetitive,listen to what each says. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: any other info from outside courtroom is not evidence. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: Basic Instinct. Only testimony about it must be regarded, not movie itself. No influence from media. #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 20s 20 seconds ago

    Judge: cannot return guilty verdict or non criminal responsibility verdict unless unanimous. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 59s 59 seconds ago

    Judge: avoid taking firm decisions early on, consider everyone's opinion with open mind. Verdict must be unanimous. #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 11s 12 seconds ago

    Judge: presumption of innocence. Most important principle of law. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 30s 31 seconds ago

    Judge: your memory and understanding of evidence is what counts in this case, not mine or counsel. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 48s 49 seconds ago

    Judge:will review some parts of evidence. Might mention you think some insignificant or important. Consider it all. #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 7s 7 seconds ago

    Except for mental disorder. To be explained later. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 31s 31 seconds ago

    Judge: burden of proof rests with prosecution. No burden on #Magnotta to prove he's innocent.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 52s 52 seconds ago

    Judge:2 rules-prosecution has burden of proving guilt and must be beyond reasonable doubt. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge: presumption of innocence. Most important principle of law. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge: your memory and understanding of evidence is what counts in this case, not mine or counsel. #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 14s 15 seconds ago

    Judge: must decide by looking at evidence as whole that #Magnotta guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: standard falls much closer to absolute certainty than probable guilt. Probably guilty is not sufficient. #Magnotta
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    Many apologies for doing the tweets upside down. Doing my best. :)
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: defence saying #Magnotta suffered from mental disorder to extent he is not criminally responsible for actions.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge: non criminally responsible verdict is different. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Judge: if based on evidence, and find #Magnotta guilty, then you are satisfied he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Judge: if reasonable doubt, must find #Magnotta not guilty.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Judge: must decide by looking at evidence as whole that #Magnotta guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Judge: any reason why witness not telling truth, give version more favourable to accused? #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge: no magic formula for deciding how much or how little to believe of testimony. Use collective common sense. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge:To make your decision, consider carefully, w/ open min all evidence during trial. #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 46s 46 seconds ago

    Inconsistencies make main points more or less believable or reliable? Important or minor details?Honest mistake? Deliberate lie? #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Witness reporting what he/she saw or heard or put together account from other sources? Testimony consistent? #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Circumstances in version made? Events unusual? Witness good memory, reason to remember incident? Difficulty to remember genuine? #Magnotta
     
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