WA WA - Oakley Carlson, 5, missing during welfare check, Oakville, 10 Feb 2021 *mom guilty, identity theft*

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‘Kids Don’t Just Disappear’: At Vigil for Oakley Carlson, Demonstrators Voiced Anger
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On Thursday, Dec. 30, men, women and children showed up for the Gathering for Oakley Carlson, which took place in front of Grays Harbor County Courthouse. The courthouse was the scene of the first appearance court proceedings for Jordan Bowers, 32, and Andrew Carlson, 36, the parents of Oakley and three other children.

About 100 people, most with signs, showed up to support the gathering, said Jordan Wolfe, a concerned person who facilitated the meeting because she just wants answers for Oakley’s disappearance.

“We’ve got a real good turnout here,” Wolfe said in a Snapchat video to those watching from home. “I appreciate all the bodies here. We’ve got a lot of media coverage.”

Oakley was reported missing on Dec. 6, but the Grays Harbor Sheriff’s Office suspects she was last seen Feb. 10, 2021.

The group peaceably assembled at about 10 a.m. Thursday along the slush-filled sidewalk in front of the courthouse, where Bowers and Carlson soon appeared for a preliminary hearing in front of Superior Court Judge Katherine Svoboda for unrelated charges.

The group’s coordinated “Oakley” chant rang throughout the bright blue sky that hovered over the courthouse. The group didn’t quit until a little before 12:30 p.m.

After Bowers’ and Carlson’s court appearances with Svoboda ended, via Zoom, some of the crowd left the front of the courthouse and walked around to the parking lot that sits right beside the Grays Harbor County Jail. There, they bellowed “Kids Don’t Just Disappear,” “Make Them Talk” and “We Love Oakley.”

In addition to chanting, there was a lot of anger inside the peaceful protest, because Oakley has not been found. Some talked about how the Carlson and Bowers were bad parents — to varying degrees — and some talked about how the Department of Children, Youth and Families’ system for foster children had failed.

Wolfe said she made sure a lot of signs were made. She said she was expecting a bigger turnout, but some must not have shown up because of the snow.

The hope on Thursday was clear, that Oakley has to be found.

Jamie Jo and Erik Hiles, Oakley’s foster parents until she was returned to Bowers and Carlson, are thankful to the Grays Harbor Sheriff’s Office for their efforts in searching for Oakley. They’re glad the search continues.

“They’re doing a great job,” Jamie Jo Hiles said. “Very transparent.”

MOO They're protesting in front of the wrong building, but I hope they get momentum going. If WA can get the ball rolling the conversation can go National.

The proper building, in my opinion, would be the Governor's Mansion. The Judges have to follow the law as it's written. There are three ways to fix it, make the Governor do his/her job and get the State Leg. on it or force a ballot measure, or file a lawsuit that will go to the State Supreme Court to force a ruling. Personally, I err on the side of the first two, but I'm not familiar with the WA Supreme Court on these kinds of social safety matters.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Hearings tomorrow for both parents on her sister's abandonment charges. You can watch them live on youtube, but they delete them afterwards.
Grays Harbor County Superior Court - YouTube

ETA: Correction on times
Jordan is at 8am
Andrew is at 9am

 

[sk716]

Hearings tomorrow for both parents on her sister's abandonment charges. You can watch them live on youtube, but they delete them afterwards.
Grays Harbor County Superior Court - YouTube

ETA: Correction on times
Jordan is at 8am
Andrew is at 9am

Horrible lades first.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Just joining this thread.

Still have to catch up.

Where are you, Oakley?

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Oakley Carlson’s former foster parent wants answers for 5-year-old’s disappearance | king5.com

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

JB hearing at 8am today
Plead not guilty
Trial set for April 19 (with pre-trials prior to that)
Prosecutor said he expects trial to last about 4 days and did mention something about expecting more charges by then.
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

AC hearing today at 9am
Everything the same as JB and they will be tried together.

 

[sk716]

Between Harmony and Oakley, I really think we're going to have to push for national regulations for CPS.

 

[PommyMommy]

JAN 10, 2021
Trial date set for Oakley Carlson's parents | king5.com
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Jordan Bowers and Andrew Carlson are accused of withholding medication from their 6-year-old, who is the sibling of missing Oakley Carlson. ...

Both Bowers and Carlson face charges of second-degree abandonment of a dependent person, which is a class C felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

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Edwards set a trial date of April 19. The trial is scheduled to last four days. Edwards said Carlson and Bowers’ cases have been joined, so both parents will be on trial at the same time.

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Other court appearances were also scheduled Monday before the trial begins.

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[PommyMommy]

JAN 10, 2021

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Prosecuting Attorney Jason Walker said he anticipates “there will be additional charges by the time this comes to trial” in April 2022.

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... According to court documents, the 6-year-old’s temporary foster parents contacted law enforcement on Dec. 7 for information on a medication the child needed. Law enforcement then contacted Bowers, who reportedly said “she’s not on any meds,” according to court documents.

The 6-year-old was initially prescribed the medication in question — an injectable growth hormone to prevent future physical impairment — in March 2018 while she was in foster care, according to court documents.

The child was returned to her biological parents by a judge’s order on Dec. 4, 2019, and Bowers and Carlson were instructed to maintain and administer the child’s medication as prescribed, according to court documents.

Bowers and Carlson reportedly properly filled the prescriptions and traveled with the child to doctor’s appointments through August 2020, according to court documents, but during a doctor’s visit in October 2020, the parents reportedly told the child’s doctor they hadn’t been administering the medication for two and a half weeks due to insurance issues.

Records indicate that, as of December 2021, it had been 15 months since the child was provided her prescribed medication.

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An omnibus hearing to review the status of the case and go over what evidence will be needed for trial is scheduled for 9 a.m. on Jan. 31.

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Timeline of Oakley’s Disappearance and Her Biological Parents’ Court Case

• Nov. 2019: Oakley leaves the care of her foster parents and returns to her biological parents, according to King 5 News.

• Feb. 10, 2021: The last time detectives with the Grays Harbor County Sheriff’s Office can confirm Oakley was seen alive.

• Nov. 6, 2021: A fire was reported at the Carlson’s residence in Oakville just before 5 p.m. Andrew Carlson told dispatchers his 4-year-old (Oakley’s age at the time) had lit the couch on fire with a cigarette lighter and said he had put the fire out himself. Investigators later determined the fire most likely started in the microwave on the kitchen counter — not from the couch, as Carlson had claimed.

• Nov. 30, 2021: The date Oakley’s parents claim they last saw Oakley.

• Dec. 5, 2021: Oakville Elementary School Principal Jessica Swift contacts the Grays Harbor County Sheriff’s Office with concerns about Oakley’s safety.

• Dec. 6, 2021:

• Approximately 10 a.m.: An officer with the Tumwater Police Department initiates a welfare check for Oakley and interviews Oakley’s parents in their hotel room.

• 3:31 p.m.: An officer confirmed Bowers and Carlson left the hotel with their 2-year-old and returned to their Oakville residence.

• 5:10 p.m.: Bowers is booked into the Grays Harbor County Jail for allegedly obstructing an officer and on suspicion of manslaughter.

• 9:30 p.m.: Carlson is booked into the Grays Harbor County Jail on suspicion of manslaughter.

• Dec. 7, 2021: Oakley’s sister’s temporary foster parents ask law enforcement about a medication prescribed to the 6-year-old, and law enforcement learn Bowers and Carlson had not been giving the child the medication.

• Dec. 9, 2021: The 72-hour hold on suspicion of manslaughter expires, and that case is closed. Bowers and Carlson are charged with second-degree abandonment of a dependent person for allegedly neglecting to give their 6-year-old daughter a prescribed medication for approximately 15 months.

• Dec. 13: Detectives complete their search of the Carlson family’s house and surrounding property.

• Dec. 30: Bowers and Carlson appear in Grays Harbor County Superior Court for the first time. Demonstrators gather outside the courthouse demanding answers about Oakley.

• Jan. 10, 2022: Bowers and Carlson both plead not guilty to second-degree abandonment of a dependent child. Trial dates are set for April 2022.

 

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WA locals, are there searches still underway for Oakley?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

WA locals, are there searches still underway for Oakley?

None that they have made public. They searched the 300 acres of the property extensively. Really, she could be anywhere.

 

[Minasmom]

[QUOTE="Psychic Sleuth, post: 17381044, member: 79668"D
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release[/QUOTE]

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.

 

[Minasmom]

Sweet Miss Oakley - where are you?

 

[Shamrock1]

[QUOTE="Psychic Sleuth, post: 17381044, member: 79668"D
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.[/QUOTE]

Just bumping this because many people don’t know that they have the power to contest an insurance company’s denial, and contacting the prescriber is the first step. Some insurance practices veer into practicing medicine without a license IMO. There’s a difference between being a not-so-savvy parent and a negligent one, of course.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

[QUOTE="Psychic Sleuth, post: 17381044, member: 79668"D
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. It's a piss poor attempt at an excuse.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.

Just bumping this because many people don’t know that they have the power to contest an insurance company’s denial, and contacting the prescriber is the first step. Some insurance practices veer into practicing medicine without a license IMO. There’s a difference between being a not-so-savvy parent and a negligent one, of course.[/QUOTE]

If you know the medication is extremely important to your child's health and well-being, you contact the Dr or the insurance carrier OR SOMEBODY and tell them the insurance denied it. You don't just ignore it. That's no excuse! Lots of times there is an alternate medication they can take.

 

[Laughing]

[QUOTE="Psychic Sleuth, post: 17381044, member: 79668"D
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.[/QUOTE]

Yes, all the time.

This morning, I concluded 4 months of wrangling between my provider's office and my medical insurance carrier over my pre-approved preventative bone density scan. (Apparently Coders are god-like creatures who cannot be approached by mere patients. Apparently.)

Couple years back it was my annual well-woman screening mammogram.

Takes time, energy, determination to get anyone to change anything. "That's not my job." But no one will name the person responsible for that job, or connect you to that person.

This, in a medical system masquerading behind nuns!

Now if this had been a medicine a child needed I would have found a way to get it.

Sometimes, your county/state Health Department can find a way to work around these snafus.

Mom could also walk into Child Protective Services & keep talking until she gets someone willing to do something.

So sad for these kids!

 

[LovesPeace2]

Bumping for Oakley where are you baby girl

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

[QUOTE="Psychic Sleuth, post: 17381044, member: 79668"D
Defense Attorney asked for her release and said she never should have been arrested because the reason why she was not giving her child the needed meds was because insurance denied it. Attorney stated that this was all discussed in dependency.
Judge denied release

If Medicaid denies a medically necessary medication, a concerned parent calls the physician's office and notifies them. Someone at the office contacts Medicaid and gets the medication approved with Medicaid or otherwise straightens the situation out, then the parent can go pick up the medication. It happens all the time with all insurance companies.[/QUOTE]
Glad the judge saw through that Hooey. Bet she's fuming, oh to be a fly on her cell wall. MOO