It seems to me JonBenet was viewed as an object owned by her mother, so in that sense yes....shiloh said:Did JonBenet's involvement with the pageants have anything at all to do with her ultimate fate?
Did JonBenet's involvement with the pageants have anything at all to do with her ultimate fate?
LinasK said:Definitely. I think dressing JB up like a minature Vegas show-girl caused John to view her that way, and when Patsy may not have been available to meet his needs because of her Ovarian Cancer, I think he turned to JonBenet.
Good point about parental control and the sexually dysfunctional family, UKGuy. I too think JB's involvement in pageants like that played a significant part re her death.UKGuy said:Possibly if you view her pageant activities as a form of parental control?
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To encourage your daughter to dance across the stage in a Las Vegas showgirl outfit, complete with heavy makeup. To look alluringly at judges, and make her bodily movements that of an adult woman, all at 6-years old, suggest the possibility of a sexually dysfunctional family.
So yes her pageant activity probably played a part in setting the scene for her untimely death.
Definitely a possibility. It would explain the 'sexual predator' part in the staging, meaning that the injury to JB's vagina was inflicted to hide signs of prior sexual abuse.[Lina SK]I think dressing JB up like a minature Vegas show-girl caused John to view her that way, and when Patsy may not have been available to meet his needs because of her Ovarian Cancer, I think he turned to JonBenet.
SuperDave said:"Interesting thought, LinasK, although I have to say that if you do not have pedophile tendancies, I would have to think that a child dressed a certain way would not have you 'making the jump'."
Maybe not, Brefie, but you have to admit, it's not a big leap of imagination!
Linda7NJ said:It seems to me JonBenet was viewed as an object owned by her mother, so in that sense yes....
LinasK said:Definitely. I think dressing JB up like a minature Vegas show-girl caused John to view her that way, and when Patsy may not have been available to meet his needs because of her Ovarian Cancer, I think he turned to JonBenet.
Ditto and very possible to all the above. IMO not only was JonBenet viewed as an object by Patsy, but as an extension of Patsy to the point where they were basically the same person in Patsy's psyche, and possibly in John's perception, too.UKGuy said:To encourage your daughter to dance across the stage in a Las Vegas showgirl outfit, complete with heavy makeup. To look alluringly at judges, and make her bodily movements that of an adult woman, all at 6-years old, suggest the possibility of a sexually dysfunctional family.
rashomon said:Good point about parental control and the sexually dysfunctional family, UKGuy. I too think JB's involvement in pageants like that played a significant part re her death.
There has been quite some discussion about whether JonBenet had been the victim of prior sexual abuse. Imo opinion encouraging your child to perform seductively is already a form of child abuse. Is the followig theory a far stretch then? Not at all imo:
Definitely a possibility. It would explain the 'sexual predator' part in the staging, meaning that the injury to JB's vagina was inflicted to hide signs of prior sexual abuse.
rashomon said:Good point about parental control and the sexually dysfunctional family, UKGuy. I too think JB's involvement in pageants like that played a significant part re her death.
There has been quite some discussion about whether JonBenet had been the victim of prior sexual abuse. Imo opinion encouraging your child to perform seductively is already a form of child abuse. Is the followig theory a far stretch then? Not at all imo:
Definitely a possibility. It would explain the 'sexual predator' part in the staging, meaning that the injury to JB's vagina was inflicted to hide signs of prior sexual abuse.
SuperDave said:Well, I'm quite normal, and I can say with some certainty that a normal person seeing those seductive acts probably wouldn't have to make much of a leap of imagination to conclude that she was being abused. If you combine those pictures and videos with the reports that she was being sexually abused over time, I think the combination would be devastating in court. As I've often said, the jury would HANG them right in the courtroom, imo.
Tell you what, UKGuy: you tell me why she was wiped down and redressed first, then I'll weigh in.
I agree. IMO the stager was hiding the vaginal injury. She may not have even been considering an autopsy at that point, just figuring her shocking staged kidnapping-gone-wrong would be enough to keep anyone from looking for or noticing the head and vaginal injuries, i.e. with such a flagrantly obvious cause of death, and circumstances thereof, why would they bother doing an autopsy?UKGuy said:My current favorite explanation is that this phase of the staging was redesigned to portray a kindapping scenario, not a predatory assault?